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toggle posted:FYI Ben Affleck is playing Dicky Simpkins in the movie about this tell all book And introducing Jud Buehcler as Bill Wennington.
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This is great first hand, primary source reporting and I will be citing this thread in my dissertation.
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May 7, 2013 05:24
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This is oral history, the Loose Balls of the MJ steroid era
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DeimosRising posted:This is great first hand, primary source reporting and I will be citing this thread in my dissertation. Cite it? I'm just going to copy paste the whole thing and submit it. Plagiarism be damned; I can recognize when I can't improve on what's altered there.
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Goon Project: Let's get the mainstream to media to run with this steroids story, much like the style of the Millville Meteor
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DOOP posted:Goon Project: Let's get the mainstream to media to run with this steroids story, much like the style of the Millville Meteor MJ's going to find out about this and have us all killed and dumped in the swamps of Carolina. It's his MO.
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C. Everett Koop posted:Part of his comeback (which was to be announced on 9/11, obviously got shifted to the back burner and led to Jordan donating all of his modest salary to charity, which is part of Jordan/Nike's PR mastery and might be the only decent part of this story) I actually remember this. It was a lead story on the news, until that first plane hit.
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DeimosRising posted:MJ's going to find out about this and have us all killed and dumped in the swamps of Carolina. It's his MO. Jordan's going to sue everyone here like former Leafs GM Brian Burke. Or spend $10 after $10 to create accounts that just tell people to go gently caress themselves, goddamnit, I'm Michael Jordan, what do you mean I'm banned
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Could someone clue me in to how the Bilderbergs might factor into this? The Anglo-Jew-Dutch bankers clearly had some influence at UNC. 
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AsInHowe posted:Or spend $10 after $10 to create accounts that just tell people to go gently caress themselves, goddamnit, I'm Michael Jordan, what do you mean I'm banned MourningView is going to be so pissed when Gendo beats him to the punch.
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Diddie posted:Tales of Jordan being an overcompetitive rear end in a top hat never get old. Well, here's one that never fails to blow everyone's mind when it gets told. I'm sure I'm not the first to put it out there either, but if you've ever wondered the lengths Michael Jordan would go to humiliate someone and prove that he was the best, here's one small step down that path. Before his second and final season with the Wizard, Jordan was pitched an ad idea by Gatorade that had him playing a younger version of himself, which Jordan signed off on. The spot, entitled 23 vs. 39 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL6pYmybB9Y), was a technological marvel at the time, using face-mapping technology to make a younger Jordan for the current MJ to ball again. The face wasn't the hard part, it was finding the rest of the body. They needed a 6'-6" black male, slender build with some muscle, who could play basketball to a respectable degree but wasn't already in the league or in college (even with the different face the NCAA wouldn't allow an athlete of theirs in a commercial unless they were the ones profiting off of it), and who would be available to shoot a commercial around Jordan's schedule. In the end they found Kevin "Special K" Daley, who had played for Azusa Pacific University and was kicking around the lower levels. Daley was brought in, made up, and went through several of Jordan's dunks to serve as B-roll and a test for the cameras and lights. As Daley dunked, Jordan and Grover, along with a small entourage for Jordan, entered the gym. Jordan saw a guy wearing his jersey, doing his dunks, and was not happy. However, he was professional at first, and they shot the staredown stuff, then a couple of staged baskets. The director wanted the two to be even, so he had older Jordan make a play, followed by the younger one. Wanting to use nat sound, he encouraged some mild trash talk, and after Daley made his scripted shot and mildly taunted Jordan, that flipped the switch. Jordan grabbed the ball, slammed it down on the court, and said they were playing one-on-one for real. And keeping score. Everyone panicked. The director said that the cameras had to be moved for each planned shot, Jordan told him to move them after each game. His entourage called David Falk, who basically gave Jordan carte blanche to do what he wanted. The Gatorade execs were concerned about Jordan hurting himself but they weren't about to say no. And Daley was going to get a chance to go one-on-one with his idol from him growing up. He shouldn't have. Once the games started, Jordan beat the living poo poo out of this kid. Daley went to drive, the bigger Jordan physically bullied and bumped him, hacking away whenever Daley tried to take a weak jumper. Daley tried to get an outside game going, but Jordan called him a coward and physically bodied up on him. On offense, Jordan did whatever he wanted as Daley bit on every fake and Jordan played him like a fiddle. And talked trash. Oh did he ever talk trash. Jordan was already known for being one of the best trash talkers in the game, but surrounded by cameras, mics, and high rollers in expensive courtside seats, he kept it mostly PG-13. But in a closed environment with someone he felt was disrespecting him (of course Jordan did), he unloaded on Daley with both barrels and kept it up. Crew members, who are no strangers to salty language, said it was a verbal beatdown they had never seen before. Every other word out of Jordan's mouth was either "motherfucker" or "human being", and Jordan never let up. They played about six or seven games and Jordan easily won them all, Daley scoring maybe six or seven points total and getting shutout several times. As they moved the cameras, Jordan would ask questions of Daley, only to insult and curse him out upon hearing the answer. After Daley stopped responding, Jordan increased the heat even more. Towards the end, he tried to rip the Bulls jersey off of Daley's back, saying that Daley didn't deserve to be wearing it. No one dared to do anything lest Michael's steroid-enhanced wrath be directed towards them. Finally, once the director said he had all the shots he needed, Jordan grabbed the ball, autographed it, and then threw it to the other end of the gym, screaming at Daley to go chase it down and get the gently caress out of his motherfucking gym. The problem was that they weren't done. The director had all the action shots he needed, but they still needed to do the sitdown at the end where the UNC Jordan showed up. Jordan iced down courtside, still steaming, still letting everyone know who was king. When it was time to shoot, Jordan plopped into his seat, but no one could find Daley. It took them 15 minutes before they found Daley sobbing in his car and brought him in to shoot the final scene. Daley sat down, the lights went on, Jordan flashed that charm, the director yelled cut, and Jordan told Daley to get the gently caress out of his gym again, which Daley did. The good news is that Daley wasn't permanently scared off of basketball; he's been with the Globetrotters since '04. Gatorade, however, destroyed most of the footage and has only used videotape of Jordan for their promotions since.
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What's believable about that story is that when young Jordan gets dunking like its NBA Jam you barely see real Jordan in the shot. Young Jordan gets the best of him at first but then it's all old Jordan with exception the dunking shots. As if they were filmed early before Jordan decided to make it competitive. That said, I have to defend steroids here and say even without the juice, MJ would have been a piece of poo poo to his younger self. UNC Jordan is lucky. He only had to walk up.
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SporkOfTruth posted:Could someone clue me in to how the Bilderbergs might factor into this? The Anglo-Jew-Dutch bankers clearly had some influence at UNC. The Rothschilds financed the invention of roids
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SporkOfTruth posted:Could someone clue me in to how the Bilderbergs might factor into this? The Anglo-Jew-Dutch bankers clearly had some influence at UNC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chYkhlCon6E
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Agenda 21 has an entire section about putting steroids in drinking water so that the lower class becomes super strong subservient workers who do manual labor at the bidding of the ruling elite or super athletic basketball players who entertain said elite.
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Between that and this I can't imagine anyone wanting more citations or evidence.
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Ok, he makes associations that don't necessarily go together but, he is correct with most of the info just not the association. So if you researched you would find he is telling the truth about something, maybe not M.J. though. Stop being sheep people, everything is derived or conceived from ancient times. Its never just a sport or a movie or show etc. Oh and Michael Jordan is involved in something, if he was so loved then why does he get blocked on business endeavors. Thats why he makes crazy speeches.
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deafmute posted:Between that and this I can't imagine anyone wanting more citations or evidence. Jordan rips his jeans himself in fits of roid rage
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May 7, 2013 23:57
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I guarentee that his steak house also uses steriod enjected beef.
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WhyteRyce posted:Jordan rips his jeans himself in fits of roid rage
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In 2009, a Chicago grocery store took out an ad congratulating Michael Jordan on his Hall of Fame induction for SI's commemorative Jordan issue. Jordan being Jordan, he sued the grocery store for $5 million, for using his name. The presiding judge was not impressed. quote:A federal judge who labeled Michael Jordan's $5 million lawsuit against Dominick's food stores "greedy" ordered the former NBA star to appear in court this week for an off-the-record settlement conference in a locked courtroom. This judge owns.
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Oh, MJ.   
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buttcoin smuggler posted:Oh, MJ. Four or five pair, fam, discounted
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All respect to his talent, but I've always hated him, since I was a child. I rooted for any team that played his Bulls. He always gave me that tickle that under the polished surface, he was a tremendous rear end in a top hat. I'm glad that after all these years, I'm right in feeling that way. Michael Jordan is a tremendous dickhead, and whether or not he did steroids, he's still an rear end in a top hat, so keep that in mind.
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How far up the ladder does this conspiracy go? Does it include Phil Jackson? David Stern? The Harlem Globetrotters?
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peepoogenderparts posted:How far up the ladder does this conspiracy go? Does it include Phil Jackson? David Stern? The Harlem Globetrotters? Yes, yes, and please don't troll this very serious thread, respectively.
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I hope it's all true because there's no reason to not use steroids in professional sports. It's so much more fun that way 
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Rewatching Jeffrey's HOF speech for the first time in a while, he loving owns. GOAT.
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cucka posted:All respect to his talent, but I've always hated him, since I was a child. I rooted for any team that played his Bulls. He always gave me that tickle that under the polished surface, he was a tremendous rear end in a top hat. I'm glad that after all these years, I'm right in feeling that way. The one great thing about being a Pistons fan is that Detroit frustrated Jordan the most during his playing days, and the chief antagonist against Jordan was Joe Dumars. Dumars now has the NBA's sportsmanship trophy named after him, a perfect contrast to Jordan.  Also, John Elway seems like a tremendous rear end in a top hat.
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AsInHowe posted:Also, John Elway seems like a tremendous rear end in a top hat. Well, he did subvert the entire point of the NFL draft order because he didn't want to play for the team that drafted him. That's one of the biggest dick moves you can pull. Yes, I know you know the Colts are bad, that's why they get first pick, so they can have good players and improve.
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AsInHowe posted:The one great thing about being a Pistons fan is that Detroit frustrated Jordan the most during his playing days, and the chief antagonist against Jordan was Joe Dumars. Dumars now has the NBA's sportsmanship trophy named after him, a perfect contrast to Jordan. Dumars was such a nice guy that he got the Hall of Fame to overlook the fact that he was maybe the third most important player on his team and that he wasn't very good outside of a five year stretch.
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Declan MacManus posted:Dumars was such a nice guy that he got the Hall of Fame to overlook the fact that he was maybe the third most important player on his team and that he wasn't very good outside of a five year stretch. Dumars was a phenomenally nice guy. Great family guy, great in his community. That got him in the Hall, directly during one of the most me-first eras in basketball history, as some sort of 'don't be a dick' statement.
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Bravo. Goddamn. Bravo
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I bet Michael Jordan is the kind of guy who gets really roid ragey and yells at teenagers just trying to do their jobs when he goes to Disneyland and they won't let him skip the lines.
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Cameron posted:I bet Michael Jordan is the kind of guy who gets really roid ragey and yells at teenagers just trying to do their jobs when he goes to Disneyland and they won't let him skip the lines. Like Jordan doesn't have a FastPass. 
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Nah, Jordan would just think he could get by with people recognizing his garish earrings and moustache alone. He's too good for waiting for specific times of the day to ride certain rides.
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Mr. Wookums posted:I guarentee that his steak house also uses steriod enjected beef. Funny enough, I was roomate with a girl who worked the front end of Michael's restaurant in Chapel Hill back in the early 2000s. All of a sudden the restaurant closes one day. A week later, the 8-20 season started in Chapel Hill. Coincidence, or steroid pipeline closed down.
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Always wondered what exactly would have happened in Michael's NBA career if Bill Cartwright actually decided to beat the poo poo out of him.
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One time one of Jordan's kids told him he wanted to race him to the tree in the front yard, so Jordan made his kid wear a back brace and prescription shoes and then he lapped him four times.
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Defiance Industries posted:Well, he did subvert the entire point of the NFL draft order because he didn't want to play for the team that drafted him. That's one of the biggest dick moves you can pull. Yes, I know you know the Colts are bad, that's why they get first pick, so they can have good players and improve. George Steinbrenner
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