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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:It's probably weird to say this after reposting a big old wall of text about the guy, but I think I'm done with Bane now. I've fallen into the trap before of picking the "interesting but not very good grappler" character early in other games' lives and I think I gotta stop. More bane for me 
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Only characters with "man" in their name are allowed to be top tier in this game.
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May 10, 2013 06:01
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May 11, 2013 03:04
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A friend told me all normal throws are 11 frames startup. Sounds right to me.
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May 11, 2013 05:17
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Soonmot posted:But... doesn't it net you a win if your opponent disconnects? Or least the quiter a loss? That was gorgeous. You both get losses. I think it's a bug.
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May 12, 2013 06:53
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Fingers McLongDong posted:I know that the frame data in the move lists is supposed to be bugged or wrong to some extent, but is there anywhere to find out exactly what is incorrect? Is it all off by x amount of frames or just certain things or ??? Some(all?) multi-hit moves have their frame data based on the first hit, not the last. Which causes some pretty confusing things.
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May 12, 2013 06:58
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Yeah the game lets you cancel jumpins into ground attacks. This lets you get around the weird system that lets the opponent block any time you go to neutral (i.e. if you link a jumpin into a ground move, you are going to neutral in between so it wouldn't combo.)
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May 12, 2013 19:14
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Yeah it doesn't make sense to me but it works. The links not working is weird too, I tried that early on. I wonder if its intentional? Seems like you could do some really weird combos if it wasn't I guess, I'm assuming cutting off hitstun when you go to neutral was their way of preventing infinites. A ton of characters could straight-up infinite with just cr.1 over and over if the game let you do links. I'm sure it's intentional but it's really weird when you're used to the way every other fighting game works.
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May 12, 2013 20:29
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I think a cool Bane change would be to give his f+2 and f+2,d normals armor in all levels of venom. That might be way too broken though, since you can use dash cancelling to basically make those like a focus attack. I don't think bane's bad though. You have to work to get in but his mixups are so dangerous once you do. BTW I wanted to ask SN64 or any other Bane guys, do you ever mess with comboing into sweep? You can land it after b+2,3 and there are probably more damaging combos that go into it. Off a sweep you get a free crossup since they can't ground tech, or any of a myriad of high/low/throw mixups. Seems like a good option midscreen where backdashes can counter a lot of your oki.
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May 13, 2013 19:37
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Bane's oki game doesn't work on good players because... they know how to reversal? Not sure how that's different from any other character. Baiting reversals is a fact of life in every fighting game. As for having no options against projectiles, walking and dashing are pretty useful things to do. Not every character needs a move designed specifically for negating projectiles. The damage you take from chip and bad guesses is your payment in return for the reward of difficult to escape mixups.
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May 13, 2013 20:07
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It's possible Bane is the worst character (haven't played Lobo so not sure about him), but he's not much worse than the rest of the mid tiers.
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May 13, 2013 20:38
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AndyElusive posted:I like how Tom Brady gets a lot of flak for being, well, Tom Brady. He's a shitlord but (for now) he's one of the most knowledgeable people out there for Injustice. Plus REO.
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May 13, 2013 22:37
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Lurdiak posted:Tier lists are one of the many poisons the fighting game community at large likes to gorge itself on. I'm just glad this game's well-made enough that the power gap is obviously unintended and might even be patched out. ...You think the gap in tiers is INTENTIONAL in some games?
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May 14, 2013 01:48
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:Arturo Sanchez is back at the online player match grind: http://www.twitch.tv/nycfurby GGs dude. I wish you would stop switching characters though, I just wanna learn the superman matchup >:I
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May 15, 2013 03:54
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Soonmot posted:Scene transitions do less damage when part of a combo? I assume they scale like everything else.
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May 15, 2013 05:55
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gannyGrabber posted:I just beat the second ranked guy on PSN NA. Guess that technically makes -me- the second ranked player on PSN NA, right? Nah bro it means you're first.
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May 16, 2013 02:57
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SN64, you ever try ticking with bane's cr.2 xx command throw? If they block they get thrown, if it hits the throw whiffs but you have time to meaty them after. Seems pretty good.
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May 16, 2013 14:56
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Mr Fixit posted:What's the correct way of dealing with Ares' teleport shenanigans? It seems like he has a mixup afterwards with an unblockable, low or throw. I was getting worked by a dude abusing this lastnight, and when I get home I'd like to hit up the training room to work on a counter. Do you mean he's just teleporting and then attacking you? His teleport has recovery, just wait for him to do it and then hit him.
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May 16, 2013 18:35
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Mr Fixit posted:So if you anticipate it, you should be able to punish? I was trying like hell with Grundy, must have been hitting the wrong buttons. He was using rear TP, and there seemed to be some weirdness in the way my character would turn around. Like it didn't auto correct or if it did there was a delay. Try recording the AI doing it in training, and attempting to punish. If you're not already doing an attack when he teleports you should be able to punish pretty easily.
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May 16, 2013 19:15
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Are the names backwards right now? I've only ever seen Jailhouse play Cyborg.
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May 19, 2013 18:19
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Lurdiak posted:Unless they replace his trait with a suicide button, Deathstroke's not in any danger of becoming unviable. He already has that though.
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May 19, 2013 21:10
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It's got this system called throws, pretty good for punishing turtling.
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May 19, 2013 22:36
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Dosvidanya posted:No. Deathstroke's spin was like a self tech trap where if you managed to land a hit with it, pushing a button afterward meant you were going to eat something. The issue wasn't never being hit, or not being able to punish it. The problem was there was no reason to use it for DS players. Well there was a reason to use it if you felt like EX-ing it. It's the best reversal he's got.
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May 20, 2013 00:24
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PantsBandit posted:Also, just wanted to comment on how awesome it is that this game is still as relevant as it is. Injustice may or may not be as well-built a fighting game as SF or MvC, but drat have NRS studios come a long way in a short amount of time. There are a lot of ways a game can be "well-built." In general I think the MvC3 system mechanics are a lot more solid+fun, but the game has a ton of bad decisions too and more dumb stuff than I care to get into. Injustice has super weird system mechanics but at its core I think the game is a ton of fun and has a lot of potential as a competitive game.
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May 20, 2013 04:47
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Over on the Bane forums, they've discovered that the Level 3 Venom Cooldown debuff has been tinkered with outside of the patch notes. The "increase damage taken" part of it has been toned down. Woah. If that's true then he's gone from taking ~218% damage in lv3 cooldown to ~165%. Pretty huge buff.
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May 21, 2013 21:11
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gannyGrabber posted:All y'all PSN goons: I'mma be on pretty much all night, so hit me up when you get online for some sweet Batgirl action. (I'm Shnucka, for those of you who haven't added me yet!) I'll join you around 6 if you're on then.
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May 21, 2013 21:32
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gannyGrabber posted:PSN goon room is up! I'll be on in like 40 mins
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May 21, 2013 23:52
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Welp, first match in KotH and sure enough my buttons are wrong.
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May 22, 2013 00:47
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GGs my goonies, that was fun. Bane is better now!
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May 22, 2013 01:38
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AndyElusive posted:Guys, they're only accidental or incorrect inputs if the move whiffs I get AA grab with bane constantly because this game counts down->downback as a d->b input (fix this pls nrs). Hoo boy the 1 in 100 times the grab actually lands though, I am the biggest badass in the world.
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May 22, 2013 01:44
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JackDarko posted:Yeah i'm reuploading that video, it got totally messed up in the upload process and even cut short. Sorry about that! Haha I was just going nuts a lot of parts there. Lv3 trait being usable now is so nice though!
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May 22, 2013 03:59
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gannyGrabber posted:I keep watching that video of me v jmcrofts and just keep getting madder at myself for being bad and terrible. I think I'm too invested in this game. Runback tonight? I wanna do 1v1
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May 22, 2013 15:27
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gannyGrabber posted:Oh yes do I ever want a rematch! (or 10) That's fine, I'll probably be around then. And I'm getting a capture card in the mail today so I can record our matches if you want to relive your pain some more 
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Where are you reading any of this? Batman is probably the best or 2nd best character in the game. If you like playing him keep playing him, if you don't then pick someone you like better. Stop worrying about what some random scrubs think. E: holy crap, looking at your other posts in this thread you're way too neurotic about what character you should play and whether they're too cheap/easy/lovely/imbalanced. Just play characters. It doesn't matter. Jmcrofts fucked around with this message at 21:58 on May 22, 2013 |
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May 22, 2013 21:52
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gannyGrabber posted:Good games! I almost have Bane totally figured out. I think that last set put us at 20-10 in your favor as a lifetime total. I'll catch up one day... GGs. I couldn't figure out how to punish wakeup slash -_- I tried punishing with stand 1 or stand 2 a few times and couldn't get it to punish, so I just assumed that move was safe. Looking at the frame data, apparently it IS punishable and I was just messing up. You'll hear me complain about it once that video finishes uploading.
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May 23, 2013 03:53
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I'm going to bed before this finishes uploading, but once it's done in an hour or two click here if you wanna see gannyGrabber expose me for the fraud I am: http://youtu.be/7bTeKXIyfDw
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May 23, 2013 06:28
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Whoops apparently you need to verify your account to upload long videos. Fixed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bTeKXIyfDw It's 48 minutes.
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May 23, 2013 14:39
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Rugpisser posted:How do you unlock the Rubber ducky hero card item? Go x number of matches without crouching I think
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Lurdiak posted:Man, you're serious, aren't you. No, I don't believe he is.
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Dosvidanya posted:Wait, there's a character who can actually get use out of 2 meters for a bounce cancel? It's just because his combos are so bad without it.
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