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Raikyn posted:Whoops, did I make a mistake? No, but I probably don't shoot what you shoot. I know several people who bought 5D4's and borrowed one and it's a fine camera. Just, not for me.
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Every eos body Canon has put out lately since switching to the improved on-chip ADC sensors has erred toward a cooler white balance than the previous generations. 'Canon colors' are a thing I guess. It's at least a perceived value for some users. So why change? It stands to reason that users could just tweak WB settings to get back to the old look, but why would the company that never changes anything on their DSLRs unless absolutely necessary gently caress with it in the first place? I don't gaf and won't be buying a 5div anytime soon, but it seems like a weird move to me.
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Sep 16, 2016 13:59
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SMERSH Mouth posted:Every eos body Canon has put out lately since switching to the improved on-chip ADC sensors has erred toward a cooler white balance than the previous generations. It's that they put "white priority" vs "ambient priority" auto WB modes on now. That actually started with the 5DS/R before the on chip ADC bodies. If you pick white priority, it goes cooler for whiter white, and ambient priority goes warmer like the old EOS AWB did.
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I'm thinking of buying a full frame body and I'd like to spend $1000 or less. Should I get a 5dii or a 6d? Or should I wait for a 6dii to come out to pick up the original 6d? I imagine a 6dii isn't too far out. I mainly like to shoot pictures of landscape and mountain biking. I don't care about video.
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Sep 18, 2016 14:42
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durk onion posted:I'm thinking of buying a full frame body and I'd like to spend $1000 or less. Should I get a 5dii or a 6d? Or should I wait for a 6dii to come out to pick up the original 6d? I imagine a 6dii isn't too far out. I'd get a 6D if it's between that and the 5DII. You'll probably be fine with its autofocus if the light is halfway decent and you're shooting with a good lens, but it's nothing to write home about. It's the same deal with the 5DII's AF. You could spend ~$1600-$1700 and snag a 5D3 which will make all your dreams come true, though.
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Sep 18, 2016 20:26
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durk onion posted:I'm thinking of buying a full frame body and I'd like to spend $1000 or less. Should I get a 5dii or a 6d? Or should I wait for a 6dii to come out to pick up the original 6d? I imagine a 6dii isn't too far out. I have a hard time seeing where there's room for a 6DII in Canon's lineup. It would have to be enough better than a used 5DIII to justify a price premium, but without cannibalizing 5DIV sales. That said, I would definitely go with a 6D over a 5DII. The 6D and 5DIII are very close to one another in every way except the 6D's autofocus system is much more rudimentary. Other than autofocus, the 6D is an improvement on the 5DII in all the same ways that the 5DIII is an improvement on the 5DII. (Plus wifi and GPS to boot) Low light performance is probably the biggest plus.
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Sep 18, 2016 21:50
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They'll discontinue the 5D3 in a few months. The 5D2 stuck around for a little while, but it didn't last long after the 5D3 was announced.
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Sep 20, 2016 03:09
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The 6D is 4 years old now so I figured that they would refresh it sooner rather than later. The 7D1 was 5 years old when the 7D2 came out. The 5D2 and 5D3 were both 3.5 years old when their successors came out. I wouldn't be too surprised if a 6D2 came out within a year.
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Sep 20, 2016 15:25
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The pro move is to wait for 3rd party battery grips to come out rather than get the Canon one, right?
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Sep 20, 2016 18:19
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Piquai Souban posted:The pro move is to wait for 3rd party battery grips to come out rather than get the Canon one, right? I dunno. Sometimes? Other times the 3rd party grips suck and if you grip them wrong the battery terminals lose connection and your camera shuts off. I bit the bullet and bought a used Canon one.
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Sep 20, 2016 18:21
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dakana posted:I dunno. Sometimes? Other times the 3rd party grips suck and if you grip them wrong the battery terminals lose connection and your camera shuts off. I bit the bullet and bought a used Canon one. I had a 3rd party grip for my Rebel, but got a Canon one for my 7D and was wondering whether people were having hardware problems like you had in the intervening years, as I decide whether to wait for a 3rd party or just pay the extortionate Canadian fee for a new one for my 5DMKIV. My pinkie finger dangles off the grip with my giant hands, so I can't live like this for long.
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Sep 20, 2016 18:24
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durk onion posted:The 6D is 4 years old now so I figured that they would refresh it sooner rather than later. The 7D1 was 5 years old when the 7D2 came out. The 5D2 and 5D3 were both 3.5 years old when their successors came out. I wouldn't be too surprised if a 6D2 came out within a year. I think if a 6D2 came out in the next year, it'd cannibalise sales of the 5D4. Too early, methinks.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:25
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I've had third party grips for all of my cameras. A few of them felt better than Canon grips. I've had 4 now, all Zeikos brand and they've all been great. The 60D grip was the best.
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Sep 20, 2016 21:06
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um excuse me posted:I've had third party grips for all of my cameras. A few of them felt better than Canon grips. I've had 4 now, all Zeikos brand and they've all been great. The 60D grip was the best. I bought a used 6D that came with a Zeikos grip and I can't use it because holding it too tightly will separate the body from the grip enough that it'll shut off the camera. That's wit hit tightened all the way down. Must be a YMMV type of thing.
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Sep 20, 2016 21:41
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dakana posted:I dunno. Sometimes? Other times the 3rd party grips suck and if you grip them wrong the battery terminals lose connection and your camera shuts off. I bit the bullet and bought a used Canon one. It really depends on the brand, you truly won't know until someone reviews a specific model for a specific camera. For example, I have a 3rd party battery grip for my 6D. It works fine for me. Only issue I've had is when the On/Off switch on the grip was halfway between on and off. This confused the camera I guess and my 6D's shutter wheel didn't work. Setting it to either on or off fixes the issue, obviously. That was pretty scary during a shoot though.
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Sep 20, 2016 21:45
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dakana posted:I bought a used 6D that came with a Zeikos grip and I can't use it because holding it too tightly will separate the body from the grip enough that it'll shut off the camera. That's wit hit tightened all the way down. Must be a YMMV type of thing. I guess so. Never had a 6D grip. Two 40Ds, one 60D, and a 5DmkIII
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Sep 20, 2016 23:26
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dakana posted:I bought a used 6D that came with a Zeikos grip and I can't use it because holding it too tightly will separate the body from the grip enough that it'll shut off the camera. That's wit hit tightened all the way down. Must be a YMMV type of thing. I had the exact same experience with that brand, and the frustration of trying to hold it ~just right~ made me go for the Canon on my 6D.
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Sep 21, 2016 04:25
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Local seller is selling their 6D for $775. Are prices on these dropping because of the 5DIV?
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Sep 21, 2016 04:36
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They probably went mirrorless.
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Sep 21, 2016 04:37
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Bizzaro Quik posted:Local seller is selling their 6D for $775. Are prices on these dropping because of the 5DIV? Probably, yeah -- 5D3 prices are definitely dropping. Before the 5D4, usually 5D3 prices were around $1800 and 6D around $1000; now that 5D3 prices are down around $1650 and sometimes lower, 6D prices have dropped as well to maintain the same relative price differential.
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Sep 21, 2016 13:59
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Don't forget that DSLRs can also get used to poo poo, especially if the owner was a professional or a compulsive shutterbug. The mirrors and shutter assemblies, especially on FF DSLRs, can get pretty worn out, poo poo gets dropped too, and it reduces the price that halfway honest sellers will ask for.
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I bent back the fold out screen on my 60D a while back. It still works but it's definitely broken. I'd feel like a jerk trying to sell it, at least without disclosing the damage.
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Sep 22, 2016 01:50
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I wish i lived where you guys are from, here everything for sale is a++ just been serviced only used on sundays.
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windex posted:The real problem Canon and Nikon have is DSLRs are just not fun to use, require too much effort to use well, automate passable results (which disincentivizes growth), and are now only incrementality better at extremes from other cameras in practically every way. Not only that, it's that 5D4 is just playing catch up to the rest of the market and getting to the 'about as good as others' point. The DR/noise level is just a tad worse than the 810 or A7R2. The megapickle count is a bit lower but it's awash for irl shooting. The video aspect is a disappointment of an 1.74x (lol) crop. It's a decent camera compare to the 5D3 but it kinda falls short when you consider that the D810 has been out for more than 2 years and A7R2 has been out for over a year.
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Sigma is now offering a 85 1.4 Art, a 12-24 4.0 and a 500 Sport. I want the first two. Badly. But let's see what the reviews say.
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Encrypted posted:Not only that, it's that 5D4 is just playing catch up to the rest of the market and getting to the 'about as good as others' point. The SNR is pretty much neck and neck with all three of those cameras, with the D810 slightly on the bottom, and the A7R2 slightly on the top, with the 5D4 in the middle. For DR, the A7R2 & D810 lead a little at base ISO, they all 3 become pretty much the same @ 200 & 400, and the 5D4 and A7R2 pull a little ahead past 400, but not significantly. Regarding the video crop, I really fail to see how having it crop to approximately super35 size is such a huge deal as some people are making it out to be. It's only been the industry standard for what, over 50 years? I would think the frame rate options, lack of focus aids, terrible DSLR ergonomics for video use, no 4k hdmi output, and lack of log profiles would be much bigger deals to actual filmmakers over the crop. There are much bigger deals than a crop factor that's compatible with about a squillion cine lenses in existence.
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bolind posted:Sigma is now offering a 85 1.4 Art, a 12-24 4.0 and a 500 Sport. I want the first two. Badly. But let's see what the reviews say. Yeah, I'd hold off to see if people are experiencing AF problems. Sigma seems to have a lot of whacky issues with their AF implementation. My last two Art lenses would have good and bad days.
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timrenzi574 posted:I would think the frame rate options, lack of focus aids, terrible DSLR ergonomics for video use, no 4k hdmi output, and lack of log profiles would be much bigger deals to actual filmmakers over the crop. There are much bigger deals than a crop factor that's compatible with about a squillion cine lenses in existence.
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Encrypted posted:You are right that the crop probably isn't the biggest issue for most people. I just remember it being something a bit worse than the regular super35 factor. The other stuff you mentioned also didn't help though. it's slightly smaller than super35 , by just about the same amount smaller than super35 the RED cameras shoot 4k in actually. (The 5 & 6K cameras shoot @ super35 at their native resolution, then crop when you shoot 4k, 2k, etc. Because the output is much cleaner than using an efficient downsampling, and doing a high quality but inefficient downsample requires a LOT of horsepower)
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The more I think about it, the more appealing the M5 sounds. It'd be nice to have a compact body that can still use my nice lenses.
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Bubbacub posted:The more I think about it, the more appealing the M5 sounds. It'd be nice to have a compact body that can still use my nice lenses. edit: Though if I'd been adapting all of my full-frame glass, I wouldn't really have ended up with a more compact package. Hm. I'd probably still have landed on Fuji now that I think about it. Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Sep 23, 2016 |
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It kind of looks like an x-t1 when you squint. I think there's an interesting differentiation between the systems you would be buying into with m5 vs fuji. With the m5, you get one good native prime lens, three or four good dslr apsc zooms and a decent prime, plus lots of third party apsc dslr primes and zooms. And it's all relatively cheap compared to Fuji x lenses. But Fuji primes are better, and generally so are their zooms. Then if you want to go really high-end, you have to jump back to Canon L poo poo, which is even more expensive (and not the best choice for UWA applications, but otherwise...). And heavy. I guess it sort of comes down to whether or not you see the apsc offerings from fuji as being overpriced compared to what you can get on Canon, or the canon-compatible apsc stuff as lacking in variety and quality compared to Fuji. I think most here see it in the latter sense. But if you want to go super telephoto with mirrorless, Canon could now be competitive with fuji. I guess. ... depends on how much value you place on being able to use native first-party lenses.
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Yeah, I'm thinking it would be a nice body to pair with my MP-E 65mm and the rest of my macro kit. The lens itself is relatively compact, but I'd like to carry a smaller camera bag when I'm out in the woods. And when I'm macro shooting I don't need like 90% of the functionality of a full DSLR.
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Sep 23, 2016 05:01
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Canon have clearly run out of ideas and are now going down the special edition route. Unfortunately not with aesthetic quality of say the the Fuji Graphites, rather their designers seem to belong to the same school as those of Pentax, Hasslebad, and Leica... http://petapixel.com/2016/11/11/canon-launches-graybrown-version-rebel-t6-dslr/
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Nov 12, 2016 10:14
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"According to consumer research, people say they don't feel inspired by our baseline camera model." Edit: this is going to be a huge upgrade for the people who have to have silver DSLRs. It was cruel of Canon to keep them locked into using the OG digital rebel. SMERSH Mouth fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Nov 12, 2016 |
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Nov 12, 2016 13:31
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Lmao yeah that'll inspire the gently caress outta your entry level potential customers, well done.
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If they're short on ideas I got one they can try out: get a sensor that's worth a drat.
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That's quite underwhelming. Great way to damage your brand, Canon.
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