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Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
OK, so I'm thinking of getting for a respec on my vehicle alt and turning her into an anti-vehicle specialist. Swarms are heavy weapons, right?

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Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

IronSaber posted:

Veteran and Elite packs are live!

Not only that, but they are incredibly crappy. Which is to say if you spent 10k isk you could get the equivalent suit and weapon from the market. Even an AFKer makes 100k to 150k isk per Skirmish.

EDIT - and apparently they look just as dogshit as the rest of the dropsuits and weapons, so there's not even the small joy of strutting around in something cool and different.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

IronSaber posted:

Your jealousy is so transparent. :smuggo:

At least I still have my dignity :colbert:

For the moment

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
Dropships DO need a HP buff, especially given that they don't really earn their pilots much in the way of WP or isk, and the other vehicles received a buff recently.

For all you Elite pack nerds, I bought the Veteran pack and I'll bet your Dren stuff don't look half as cool as my blood red dropsuit and Saga :p

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Octavious posted:

Exioce, is this the "Go-Bots are cooler than Transformers anyways" line of defense?

Not Go-Bots. Zoids. Zoids were way cooler than Transformers could ever dream to be :colbert:

Sammus posted:

No they don't. I tried ramming a red dropship with my LAV earlier today, and it only took out it's shields. This makes me sad, cause I can no longer kill friendly dropships with a well placed car ram.

That's what happens when you don't have a funky Blood Raider Saga LAV for your ramming activities :smuggo:

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
Unfortunate that we have a voice chat bug. I think there were a few goons besides myself who couldn't hear anyone speaking :(

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
Did we have anyone in orbit for our match against Delta Force? If I wanted to be the one to do so, is it implemented yet?

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
In time they will release a Dragonfly Logi suit and Dragonfly Heavy suit with the basic Mercenary pack, so there's no real reason to go for the Elite pack if you can wait. Logi suits are probably in for a nerf anyhow.

The Dren AR is exactly the same as the Toxin and Exile AR's, so no point in that. A standard Swarm Launcher costs 1500 isk and is equal to the Swarm BPO so gently caress that. Shotguns are not that great, so you won't be using that Dren BPO. The Toxin SMG is the superior sidearm so you won't be using the Dren Scrambler Pistol BPO. The Ishukone LAV is exactly the same as the Blood Raider LAV stat-wise, so if you really wanted a LAV the Veteran pack would sort you out.

In short, don't buy the Elite pack, cos the Veteran pack will be as much as you'll need if you're really keen on LAV's (I am cos they're hella fun).

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
I've learnt from past mistakes. When I get my respec I'm speccing into AR's. gently caress everything else. It's the stock weapon, it will always be the best.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
The awoxing meta-game as it exists is actually quite silly and terribly :ccp:

There absolutely should be a permissions system to enter a PC battle. You didn't pay for those clones, after all, so why should you get to make use of them if the people who paid for them don't want you to? It doesn't add up lore or logic-wise. Add this to a long line of laziness induced CCP gently caress-ups.

quote:

I have a couple of questions on dropsuits. The named ones you buy in the marketplace, do those just have better stats and more CPU / PG? I haven't dug through them much, but I imagine there are suits that have more CPU / PG over armor, vice versa, and everything in between?

Also, hacking speed, there is a skill for that right? Wanting to focus on assault rifles and hacking if possible and be a point capturing madman.

Yes, Militia dropsuits are the lowest tier and have passable CPU/PG. Then come Standard dropsuits with slightly more. Then Advanced, with a little more than that. And then Prototype, with the highest CPU/PG.

There is a skill for hacking, but don't worry too much about it. Investing in weapon and dropsuit fitting skills should be the priority.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Dr. Glasscock posted:

Wait, anyone can join those battles? So you can just join and then gently caress around which basically amounts to griefing?

As I'm reading it, yes. And contrary to popular opinion, it's not meta-gaming, it's just exploiting something CCP was too lazy to code out.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Utgardaloki posted:

I'm pretty sure you have be in one of the participating Corporations or an 'allied' one (i think there is such a system) to jump into a PC battle.

So, it's legit. Vet your members, bitches.

If it's that then I have less issue with it, except that in EVE you can set different access permissions for different alliance members and the same should be the case with Dust. Corps don't have access to each others hangars or even stations unless someone consciously flicks a switch. My impression that anyone at all could just hop in was mistaken then, but the system still needs work.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Samahiel posted:

You have to be a member of the corporation involved in the battle. The trick comes from that a squad leader pulls in his entire squad who could be from where ever. So if you're willing to burn an intelligence asset over the battle you can change a fight from 16v16 to 10v6v16. The intelligent solution is to do basic vetting of your membership, and have a holding corp. The holding corp attacks the district, or holds the district that is attacked. Alts in the holding corp then form squads and pull people into battle from the main corp. This means that unless the spy gets into the holding corp's membership, or there are multiple trusted spies, damage is limited.

This is a perfectly acceptable solution and all CCP needs to do is point and laugh at people who don't take a few basic precautions.

Ah, then that's cool if it's necessarily a corp member who has to pull the teamkilling squad in. You win the battle but burn a spy. Fair and justifiable trade-off.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Dr. Glasscock posted:

Man I was doing awesome until last night, finally got placed against some decent players. Was getting my rear end handed to me for a bit. Wondering if Assault Rifle isn't my thing for this. Respecs aren't a thing, right? There's that one this Wednesday I read a few posts above, but other than that it's just make a new dude right?

My thoughts are have a single infantry character that will eventually spec into lots of weapons and dropsuits, and a single vehicle character that will eventually spec into lots of vehicles. If there is a respec this Wednesday specifically it will (officially) be the last one ever.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
I will bring out my Onikuma IMPACT for this!

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
Thunderdome

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
I received a response ticket that is relevant to a lot of things so I'll post it here.

quote:

The bonus applied to Drop Suit is only applicable if the Drop Suit in question requires the skill as prerequisites.

As the Dragonfly suit does not have any prerequisite, it will not get any racial bonus however the 'Valor' drop suit will.

If you have any further issues or questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

Regards,

GM Vegas

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
Microphone business is pretty convoluted. Even if you've switched it on in Options, you'll still have to click on a channel to Activate Voice, and you may even have to forward the ports on your router as described here. Someone should probably put that in the OP.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
I've been running an active scanner on my Guristas Saga for a coupla matches, and the strategic advantage of lighting up every red in 100m cannot be overstated.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

sleeptalker posted:

Does this work even when no one's actually in the vehicle? I've seen a few times where people seemingly just park and leave an LAV, and I'm wondering if it was just to have it act as a sort of stationary radar.

The people parking their LAVs are probably doing it for some other reason. I personally wouldn't just out my LAV since it's Standard and therefore something I'd not risk some idiot commandeering by it being empty.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Barf Wight posted:

I feel like a massive dingus for asking this, but here goes: Whenever I try to purchase skills it only lets me spend ISK so I've not bought anything yet since the guide in the OP is calculated with skill points I guess I'm just doing something wrong and am a moron. What am I missing?

The skillbooks cost isk to buy and upload to your head. After that you have to spend skillpoints to increase levels, from zero to 5.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
Note to self: when you go home tonight and find you've got your respec, don't be a retard by speccing into anything other than AR's

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Feenix posted:

Is it confirmed tonight?

Lots of people got theirs this downtime, plus a 'gift' from CCP of tens of millions in free isk!

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

MrLonghair posted:

I respecced to max repairtool, uplinks, nanohives and injectors, then I went like 2+ million deep into dropsuit upgrades. Not bad stats for the healing job in the end, despite not touching even an advanced suit. Even went and built a 9.11 sprint speed scout while at it, militia 5% stacks with normal 5%/etc speed boosters.

How many sp do you have? I was thinking of maxing out the three skills that directly increase CPU and PG, but I think I may have to skip level 5 in the Electronics skill because it might eat up too much of my 6.5 million sp :(

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
Ok, so yesterday I respecced my vehicle alt and this evening I respec my main. I've been thinking about our need for Heavy's and our over-reliance on Assaults. Someone convince me that a loner, run-around type such as myself would actually prefer a slowpoke with a short-range HMG. At the end of the day all I truly care about is killing lots of mans and seeing my name up topside at the end of the match. Will Heavy get me there more often than an Assault with an AR? I guess my greatest fear is being continuously outmatched/ranged/flanked by Duvolle toting Assaults.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Sammus posted:

You should be able to, yes.

My understanding is that this card only works on US PSN accounts, so EU buyers beware.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Uba Stij posted:

Today'd Hotfix fixed the excess ISK you may have gotten during the respect.

If you're now in the negative, I shall laugh at you. Dr. Eyjo G does not gently caress around.

Don't be like these guys:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=83218&find=unread

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=83217&find=unread

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=83225&find=unread

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=83209&find=unread

We should start a new meme from these posts: MY RESPECT

Actually no, that's a terrible meme.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Hazdoc posted:

Hmm, I think I'm gonna spec into Minmatar Assault or Caldari logistics when I get around to spending my points. It depends on if I decide I like sniping the most, or not.

Sniping is the best thing in the world when you get a good spot. Having said that, it is quite useless on two (city) maps.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Uba Stij posted:

Apparently I'm one of the more competent snipers on the team. When I get a chance to, I'll share my sniper fit and see if anyone has anything similar or possible improvements for it.

I don't snipe as a Logi whatsoever since that sort of defeats your purpose wearing a Logi suit. The uplink may be useful but eventually they'll just spot where you dropped it by the blog of Blues. The nanohives are far more useful for a sniper. I run a regular Medium suit, though I need to check if Assaults provide any benefit.

I use an Assault suit to snipe and I usually have an armour plate and repper in my lows. Silly and generally useless, I know, but I can't think of anything that might be the better option. Highs are damage mods.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Samahiel posted:

Play with goons. We're all terrible and being alone sucks.

Goons need to play less Skirmish and more Ambush :colbert:

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Feenix posted:

Omg I think I love heavies. Hard to say in noobie land but drat!

I'm a chubby-chaser!

Technically, a chubby chaser is a logi. Heavies are just chubby :p

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Sammus posted:

Thanks to our friends over in IMPs, we now have a new griefing technique I want us to start employing.

2 people team up in a chat channel, not a squad so they can coordinate, one of which is a logi with a needle, the other an assault, shotgun scout, or heavy. They both join the same FW match, but on opposite sides. The logi picks a lone wolf out and follows him somewhere off the beaten path while co-ordinating with his friend to meet up somewhere. Before the assault pops out to smoke the dude, the logi shoots the mark several times to distract him. Once the mark turns to the logi, the assault pops out and murders him. The logi then starts needling the dude on the ground, only for the assault to shoot him as soon as he stands up. A triage nanohive/repair dick might add extra WPs to this. If the needler times things right, the mark will NOT be able to quit the match, and will instead become a source of tons of WP for both parties. His K/D will also go completely to poo poo, and should generate tons of rage.

I'll see to it that the people with the most entertaining hatemail thanks to this get something like 10 million ISK.

[Edit] I just remembered, needles don't need to be in hand now to use them, so a heal gun is a must, and will generate thousands of WP while this is done.

I don't believe this will work, as the more times you die the shorter the revive window gets until it may just disappear altogether. However, that's going from a discussion about the same tactic some weeks ago.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
After the respec I've actually been pretty straight in sticking to a smart plan. I maxed out fitting skills, went pretty high in AR, and now I'm working on survivability skills. Not a single point in dropsuits and I intend to keep it that way until the survivability skills are done.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
Roughly how much sp did you get from that? Why didn't he just quit the match when he figured out what was happening?

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

DeathSandwich posted:

I'm in game as DeathSandwich Lowfat, I'll apply to GoonFeet before too long.

I do have some questions though. Are the purchasable mercenary/veteran/elite packs at all worthwhile? If I buy the Veteran pack, is the Covenant dropsuit/sniper and hk4m shotgun blueprinted so I can always have them, or are they time/death limited? When is a good point to ease up on spending ISK on skill books and starting to buy stuff to make my own kits?

The dropsuit and sniper rifle are BPOs. The shotgun stuff is copies and will run out. You also get a jeep BPO, which is much better than the newbie jeep. Elite pack is way overrated, I wouldn't recommend it. Veteran pack is as high as I would go (and I have gone). The suit and jeep are also a funky blood red colour whereas the Elite pack stuff makes you look like an overripe banana.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

nippythefish posted:

I was rather disappointed to hop on and see a grand total of FOUR goons idling unresponsively, in-game tonight. Activity seems to be dying down during the week despite our recent found successes in PC battles. Are there days of activity that I don't know about? Right now it seems pretty hit or miss.

Yeah, it was eerily quiet last night. I haven't seen so few online since the whole II thing blew up. Hopefully it's just down to everyone having capped out over the weekend and not a general apathy about the game in its current state - although I couldn't blame anyone if they had become jaded enough that they couldn't bare to log on anymore.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
A certain number of warpoints would do the trick. To my knowledge, you can't get warpoints by afk-ing.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Pirate of Penzance posted:

Hmm.... interesting thought. The question would then become how prevalent would WP farming for votes become. In the end any system that uses in games metrics will try to gamed to a certain extent.

Gaming warpoints would be tough since they've identified and closed most of the exploits now. Whatever still exists honestly wouldn't be worth it just for a few votes.

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
Uba Stij, Rapist and Thief

I always knew. Always.

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Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
Was gonna play last night, but then I remembered you could get a 1 month free trial to PS+ by doing a few silly quests in the PS Home E3 booth. Noticed a guy in there running around in a Dust dropsuit, which led me to the Event Horizon lounge. A few folks in there, but otherwise very quiet. I think playing Slay for the LAV bpc's still works so I'll try that sometime.

I think I'm done with capping two characters per week. Too much effort, even when AFK-ing. From now on I'm focusing on my main alone.

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