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So. Cap'n Matthews and company (save for chaos) are completely loving irrelevant to the plot. This does not prevent them from being loving awesome. Also, it merits repeating: CAUTION, I AM A BOOZER. BANZAI! BANZAI! Edit: Also, I'm getting some godawful screeching audio error at around 3:40, and I don't think it's my computer. Spiritus Nox fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Jun 17, 2013 |
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Cap'n Matthews and his crew helped keep me in this game longer than I would've stayed otherwise. I loving love them and the Elsa. Just a crew of 'space recyclers' and their space-boat trying to pay their space-debts getting dragged into crazy space-drama. They're a lot of fun.
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Spiritus Nox posted:So. Cap'n Matthews and company (save for chaos) are completely loving irrelevant to the plot. This does not prevent them from being loving awesome. Ok, I dont know what happened there. I'll have to redo this audio so bear with me. I don't know how I missed that.
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# ? Jun 17, 2013 01:34 |
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Okay, some more thoughts now that I've finished the video. chaos and Wilhelm will both be rather important later on, which is why it's a shame their voice actors aren't currently very good. They get new ones in the next game and their performances are much improved for it. I really, really like Ziggurat 8. You'll see why as we go on. His sneaking mission intro is pretty nice too, as RPG stealth sections go. My god, I'd forgotten how cartoonishly evil Margulis' introduction is. "See that planet? See all those people who just got disappeared? gently caress 'em. You got a problem with that? gently caress you too. Hey, little girl? gently caress you, and by the way I'm bringing someone from off the station just to give you a very special gently caress you." Margulis is a ton of fun, though he really doesn't come into his own until the next game (you'll be hearing variants on that pretty often ).
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# ? Jun 17, 2013 01:58 |
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Spiritus Nox posted:chaos and Wilhelm will both be rather important later on, which is why it's a shame their voice actors aren't currently very good. They get new ones in the next game and their performances are much improved for it. You take that right back, XE1 chaos is the nicest, chillest motherfucker ever and his voice is perfect.
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# ? Jun 17, 2013 02:04 |
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SSNeoman posted:You take that right back, XE1 chaos is the nicest, chillest motherfucker ever and his voice is perfect. He's not terrible, but sometimes he just sounds because he's pushing the 'permanently chill' angle too hard.
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# ? Jun 17, 2013 02:07 |
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Alright, lets try this again. Audio issues are fixed this time around. Part 8: The Best Hat (Click here for video) Errata: Thanks to Mazed for this one. I mistakenly call the Elsa Von Brabant the Elsa Von Braun. ScurvyKip fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jun 17, 2013 |
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Spiritus Nox posted:
I'm conflicted about Margulis. On the one hand, he's near absolute as a villain. Nothing matters more than his objective. No loss of life is too great to make his goals not worth it, to him. He'd sooner see the world, so to speak, burn before he'll give up. On the other, I know how his character arc turns out.
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# ? Jun 17, 2013 06:53 |
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Out of all the outfits from the trilogy, I never ever understood short shorts over spandex for a guy.
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It's better than MOMO's minidress. Spiritus Nox posted:My god, I'd forgotten how cartoonishly evil Margulis' introduction is. "See that planet? See all those people who just got disappeared? gently caress 'em. You got a problem with that? gently caress you too. Hey, little girl? gently caress you, and by the way I'm bringing someone from off the station just to give you a very special gently caress you." Margulis is a ton of fun, though he really doesn't come into his own until the next game (you'll be hearing variants on that pretty often ). Right? Say what you will about these games, but some of the VAs were very clearly enjoying themselves. Oh, Guys, it's not Elsa Von Braun. It's Elsa Von Brabant. Like every other ship, it's a reference to a Wagner opera. Not System Shock. Mazed fucked around with this message at 12:48 on Jun 17, 2013 |
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Mazed posted:Guys, it's not Elsa Von Braun. It's Elsa Von Brabant. Like every other ship, it's a reference to a Wagner opera. Not System Shock. Thanks for the correction! I guess I still have the System Shock 2 LP on my brain. Go watch that if you guys haven't. It's way better than this.
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# ? Jun 17, 2013 18:14 |
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I completely forgot about the captain's amazing hat.
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# ? Jun 17, 2013 18:19 |
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The reason KOS-MOS was able to talk to them was by resonating the glass with her hands.
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# ? Jun 17, 2013 19:39 |
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Schubalts posted:I completely forgot about the captain's amazing hat. I can buy that hat somewhere right?
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# ? Jun 17, 2013 19:45 |
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Tae posted:Out of all the outfits from the trilogy, I never ever understood short shorts over spandex Fixed that for you. Also, Shion has some serious priorities issues; "adrift" in an escape pod, and she's more worried about the murderdroid that should have a tracking device in her head if anyone on that project was doing their job right. Also, why can she open the drat escape pod in hard vacuum? Shouldn't there be some kind of safeguard against that? Edit: Is that hat intentional, or was it slipped in by the only guy on the design team who spoke English? Keeshhound fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jun 17, 2013 |
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I decided to add more stuff to the bios with notes from myself, Dazz, Kasai, and Unpronounceable. Check that poo poo out!Kuvo posted:I can buy that hat somewhere right? If only... if only.
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# ? Jun 18, 2013 03:54 |
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You can buy a knockoff shirt. From Cafepress.
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# ? Jun 18, 2013 04:07 |
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Well I'm glad to return from my vacation to a whole slew of updates. At this rate the whole Trilogy won't take that long at all. Although of course I'd more than understand if you wanted to take time off before Episode II.... So Mazed is covering music so my thing I think will be voice-actor chat. Dazzling Anime, shame on you. There ain't no Yuri Lowenthal in this game. He won't be around for two whole games yet. I kinda missed Wilhelm's Episode 1 voice actor. It's Richard Cansino who you might recognize as Kenshin HImura or Legato Bluesummers. YOu don't hear him in much but I like him. Episode 1 chaos I can take it or leave it. One voice actor change I want to address is Pellegri. Ya know, Margulis' lady friend who actually has a conscience? A lot of the VAs in this game went uncredited but it's easy enough to tell who most of them are if you watch anime or play other JRPGS. All sites I can find say Kari Wahlgren voiced Pellegri in all three games. Kari Wahlgren voiced Ashe in Final Fantasy XII and she has a very distinct voice. THat's why I knew her immediately in Episode 2. This lady in Episode 1 though? Sounds absolutely nothing like her. And so I say Wikipedia and every other website is wrong and I'm still wondering who actually voiced the lady in this game. A permanent voice change I really did miss was SHerry Lynn as MOMO. The replacement was better by EP3 but Ms. Lynn has a really good girly girl voice. Some people I know say it sounds way too much like a grown women doing a little girl voice but MOMO is such a hyper magic girl anime cliche that kind of voice really fits her. With that out of the way, I think space nerd Shion was handled well. She really isn't bitchy at all in this game. She's kind of...impotently assertive. She really doesn't go off on people who don't deserve it. She has plenty of trauma to deal with and I don't think she was badly characterized. I believe at parts we are supposed to look at Shion and go "what the gently caress is wrong with her?" For example, there was a Japanese only thing released with Episode 1 called Xenosaga Episode 1 Design Materials. Parts of it have been translated and one of those parts was characterr profiles. The relevant passage on Shion's character: quote:Enneagram Type Apparently this Enneagram stuff is a real thing. I've always maintained that the developers of Xenogears and Xenosaga at least did a lot of research before they made their games. Whether or not they used it well is another matter but at least they made the effort. Finally, was that Kuvo in one of the episodes? Has he actually played this game? I remember very distinctly in a previous LP (maybe FFX2) he and Topikal had a very brief argument about Xenogears. I remember this because Topikal actually claimed to like the game. I would have never pegged one of the T40s crew for a fan of any game even vaguely like Xenogears. Maybe it was the nostalgia.
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"We've given our cyborg a clean bill of mental health. On an unrelated note, he's been trying to kill himself for the past one hundred goddamned years." I guess in the distant future all sciences not somehow related to robots or spaceships have gotten a little rusty.
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MUMMYMTN posted:"We've given our cyborg a clean bill of mental health. On an unrelated note, he's been trying to kill himself for the past one hundred goddamned years." I think you misunderstood. He killed himself prior to becoming a cyborg, and hasn't done any self-harm since. VVV You know, you would think that it would be easier to just turn living people into cyborgs instead of reanimating them but what do I know about future space business? ScurvyKip fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Jun 18, 2013 |
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MUMMYMTN posted:"We've given our cyborg a clean bill of mental health. On an unrelated note, he's been trying to kill himself for the past one hundred goddamned years." Well no wonder they think psychiatry is bullshit, the doctor can't diagnose someone that's basically saying "yeah, my goal in life is to be legally dead." /\/\/\ Even better, he didn't just say it, he succeeded once before and was brought back.
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# ? Jun 18, 2013 20:40 |
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I got the impression that he still wants to die, but his programming won't allow him to do anything about it other than take suicide missions or politely ask his employers to throw away his brain.
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# ? Jun 18, 2013 21:13 |
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I really like his character arc, unfortunately most of it is in a mobile game that was only released in Japan, I'll cover it when the time comes.
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MUMMYMTN posted:I got the impression that he still wants to die, but his programming won't allow him to do anything about it other than take suicide missions or politely ask his employers to throw away his brain. Given they outright stated, very clearly, that he had countermeasures in place to keep him from being able to harm himself, that's a safe impression to get.
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bathroomrage posted:Given they outright stated, very clearly, that he had countermeasures in place to keep him from being able to harm himself, that's a safe impression to get. He was SO sure that diving into a sun without any protection would've killed him but nope, somehow he succeeded.
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ScurvyKip posted:I really like his character arc, unfortunately most of it is in a mobile game that was only released in Japan, I'll cover it when the time comes. Yeah, I only vaguely remember the backstory from Zutaten's old LP, but I do remember Ziggurat 8 being one of my favorite characters. bathroomrage posted:Given they outright stated, very clearly, that he had countermeasures in place to keep him from being able to harm himself, that's a safe impression to get. Sorry if you felt I was stating the obvious. I was defending my dumb joke by saying that just because he hadn't done any self-harm since his death doesn't mean he wasn't still suicidal.
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ScurvyKip posted:I really like his character arc, unfortunately most of it is in a mobile game that was only released in Japan, I'll cover it when the time comes. Pied PIper was really good and I'm glad that Xenosaga has such a dedicated fanbase that it was translated online. A lot of stuff in Episode III makes a lot more sense if you understand what Ziggurat 8 was up to back then.
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# ? Jun 18, 2013 22:04 |
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I was just about to ask if anything interesting ever happens in the game... and suddenly it has. Hope that keeps up.
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Tae posted:He was SO sure that diving into a sun without any protection would've killed him but nope, somehow he succeeded. "Okay, I'm gonna infiltrate this compound with just a small fruit knife and while wearing not a stitch of body armor. Surely one of them will manage to kill me this ti-oh god dammit, I efficiently murdered them all. Again. drat YOU, KILLING SKILLS!"
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# ? Jun 19, 2013 02:53 |
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Captain Matthews' hat, I think I've seen it somewhere before...
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# ? Jun 19, 2013 03:48 |
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Helmet 10 Warehouse posted:Captain Matthews' hat, I think I've seen it somewhere before... Alright, LP's over. There's no way anything can be better than this masterpiece.
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Turns out they were never emulating the Zohar. This is a quest to find the Matthews' Hat Emulators. NikkolasKing posted:Apparently this Enneagram stuff is a real thing. I've always maintained that the developers of Xenogears and Xenosaga at least did a lot of research before they made their games. Whether or not they used it well is another matter but at least they made the effort. Oh yeah, that's for drat sure. All the references you see to certain religions and psychological theories are actually pretty accurate. While Xeno games can sometimes look like they're just throwing symbolism around because they can, at least the general idea behind some of it holds up pretty well. I had no idea about the enneagram stuff either. If you've got more of this, it would be cool to hear what the rest of the characters have got going on, as we get to them. Mazed fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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# ? Jun 19, 2013 04:18 |
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Wait, Yuri Lowenthal isn't in this game? I've made a terrible, if understandable, error. Normally I'm so good at identifying those voices, too!
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Dazzling Addar posted:Wait, Yuri Lowenthal isn't in this game? I'm pretty sure Allen is voiced by David Wittenberg (Welkin in Valkyria Chronicles, Teddie in Persona 4), unless my anime voice recognition skills fail me. e: He is also apparently the narrator for I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant. Fun! Cake Attack fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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Mazed posted:I had no idea about the enneagram stuff either. If you've got more of this, it would be cool to hear what the rest of the characters have got going on, as we get to them. Sure thing. Allen quote:*Enneagram Type Virgil quote:According to the Enneagram personality classification, Virgil is classified as Ziggurat 8 quote:Enneagram type Even the villains have them! Pellegri quote:According to Enneagram personality analysis, Pellegri exhibits a Type 6 Margulis and MOMO and a few others we've met have entries too but they contain spoilers. A bit of self-trivia is that I'm totaly Allen. I took an Enneagram test and I'm definitely a Type 6. The guide doesn't go into specifics like if you are a Social, Sexual or Self-Preservation Variant but I think Allen is a Self-pres, just like me.
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NikkolasKing posted:A bit of self-trivia is that I'm totaly Allen. I took an Enneagram test and I'm definitely a Type 6. The guide doesn't go into specifics like if you are a Social, Sexual or Self-Preservation Variant but I think Allen is a Self-pres, just like me. That surprises me. He's been more stressed about Shion always almost dying/ignoring him and he picked up a rifle and fought on the Woglinde. I had the feeling that he was putting himself in more danger than he needed to, mainly to be with Shion. E: Surprises me that Allen would tend towards self preservation, didn't mean you mmj fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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I like how none of these characters exhibit the healthy forms of their assessed personalities. I assume a major part of the series will be them shifting to more positive behavior patterns?
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mmj posted:That surprises me. He's been more stressed about Shion always almost dying/ignoring him and he picked up a rifle and fought on the Woglinde. I had the feeling that he was putting himself in more danger than he needed to, mainly to be with Shion. It's Self-Preservation as it relates to their personality and needs, not the typical use of the term. Here's a little link I just found on Google that more or less gets the point across I hope: http://www.enneagramcentral.com/Enneagram/Subtypes/Subtype%20Six%20Self%20Preservation.htm And here's a whole site on the Enneagram system if anyone is interested. http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/typesix.asp#.UcIPbXYWX14 Keeshhound posted:I like how none of these characters exhibit the healthy forms of their assessed personalities. I assume a major part of the series will be them shifting to more positive behavior patterns? Well Virgil is dead but you're on the right track about everyone else.
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NikkolasKing posted:Well Virgil is dead but you're on the right track about everyone else. Dammit, why'd you have to remind me!? Good night, sweet prince; and packs of wendigos carry thee to a feast of brains.
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Only a few of the characters had the same voice for all three games. Matthews, Allen, Margulis, and Ziggurat are the only four I can mention now, but there are I think three others who were always voiced by the same person, but we haven't met them yet, so I won't mention them. The majority of characters were voiced by the same person in two out of three games, and there's a select few who always changed their voice between games. Sylphid fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Jun 20, 2013 |
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