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999 OST: [Trepidation] The first thing I saw when I stepped through the door was the blossom of red on her chest. It felt as if I'd walked straight into a brick wall. I stopped short, my body refusing to move. No... Why did this happen...? I forced one shaking foot forward, then the next. My legs began to buckle, and I put a hand against the wall to steady myself as my heart thundered in my chest. (Calm down... Calm down...) (This looks pretty bad, but you don't actually know anything yet...) (Yeah, that's right...) (Maybe it's not too late!) (Maybe we can still save her!) Then at last I pressed my fingers to her neck, and those hopes were dashed. ... ... No pulse. Clearly she wasn't breathing either. Her pupils had dilated hideously, making her face seem somehow inhuman. No... No, it's not true... Why...? Then I noticed it. All the blood must have distracted me, but now I saw that there was a scalpel buried in her chest. Judging by the position of its handle, she had been stabbed through the heart. I felt a sympathetic twinge of pain in my own chest, and my stomach lurched. Bile and hopelessness rose up in my throat. I stood, hands balled tightly into white-knuckled fists, and took a deep breath. All around the room were the rest of the Nonary Game's participants, except, of course, for Quark. I wanted to ask which one of them had killed her. Even if it had been one of them, though, there was no way they'd answer. All I could do was stare at each one of them in turn, asking myself, "Is this person a murderer?" The looks they traded with one another suggested that I wasn't the only person wondering if they were standing next to a killer. An unsettling silence filled the room. Clover was the first to speak. Listen in: [English/Japanese] ... ... ... ... ... ... Say something! Answer me! P-Please Clover, calm down! We don't even know if she was killed... Then what happened?! An accident!? You think a scalpel just dropped from the ceiling and stabbed her?! Cool it, kid... You did it, didn't you! Are you nuts? Then who did it?! Who killed her!? Clover, even if we assume that she was murdered, that doesn't necessarily mean the killer was one of us, does it? Something happened in there, didn't it? No, nothing happened... Don't lie to me! There's no way Alice would just run off like that! She wouldn't leave me! Something happened! If she was going to leave she'd tell me! She...she... ... ... Hey, Clover... Don't you think just assuming Alice was murdered is jumping the gun a little bit? Scalpels don't just stab people all by themselves! ... ... You're all in on it, aren't you? It wasn't just one killer...it was six! No wonder you're so anxious to say this wasn't a murder! Clover, please, just settle down. Hmph. Fine. Show me some proof, then. Prove to me in 10 seconds that you didn't murder my friend— You're all going to die just like she did! H-Hey, hold on a minute! Nine! Eight! Seven! Clover! Six! Five! Four! Clover! Three! Two! One...! [Music fades out] "Those infected by Radical-6 eventually develop a powerful urge to commit suicide." Suddenly, Clover moved. I leapt forward and clamped my hand around her wrist. Listen in: [English/Japanese] Clover, listen to me! Alice wasn't killed! Nobody murdered her! She...she took her own life. 999 OST: [Chill and Rigor] No, there's no way she'd do that! It's true! She stabbed herself in the heart with the scalpel! All right, where'd she get the scalpel then?! Well... Was that before I showed up? Yes. I got up to see who it was, but they were already gone. It could have been Alice... So she could have taken the scalpel then. Yes, I think so. It's not. It's the truth. Then why did she do it? Why would Alice kill herself?! She...she probably didn't have a reason. Wh-What...? She'd been infected with Radical-6. That's what killed her. But you just said she killed herself! Just tell me the truth! I am! Then prove it! Your ten seconds ran out a long time ago, so if you don't have any proof—! I do! ...? I have proof. ... ... A...journal? It would have been in the safe. Ah, well, Alice would have it then. Phi, can you...? I don't feel right touching a dead woman's body. Could you take a look? Sure. Her hands barely shook as she quickly searched through Alice's clothing. It was only seconds before she stopped. Slowly and carefully she drew something out. There it was. The journal. Phi turned to hand it to me, but I shook my head. You read it. It's in Latin. I can't make heads or tails of it. She cocked an eyebrow at me and flipped the small book open. When she looked back up at me it was with both suspicion and surprise. Listen in: [English/Japanese] Yeah, it is Latin. But translating this is impossible. It's full of words I've never heard before, I can barely understand any of this... Page 216. Huh? Turn to page 216. You should be able to read that one. Phi's frown deepened, but she did as I'd suggested. I watched her eyes quickly scan the page before looking up at me with renewed suspicion. ... No, wait, how did you even know there was a journal in the lab? ... ... ... ... I just...knew... You "just knew"? C'mon— Look, just read it, okay?! Clover wants to hear what it has to say! Right?! U-Uh, yeah... ... ... Right. Give me a moment to look it over. After a few moments of whispering to herself in Latin, Phi began to translate, paraphrasing the contents of the journal. Phi shut the journal with a soft slap. A sickly silence drifted through the room. The newspaper article, the recording, the conversation with Tenmyouji...and now this journal entry... There was no more hiding from the truth. The pandemic had already happened. All of Clover's rage suddenly dissipated, and she collapsed to the floor, tears pouring down her face. None of us had the heart to say anything, and for several long moments the only sound in the room was Clover's sobs. [Music fades out] VLR OST: [Divulgation] Listen in: [English/Japanese] It's almost time for the primary doors to open. Sorry, but I'll be taking Alice's bracelet. So she was a magenta pair, just like me. Just now noticed that, did you? As he spoke, Dio grabbed the bracelet off the floor and dropped it into his pocket. I'm a cyan pair. You are part of Clover's pair, then. That means the two of you will need to come with me. I guess so. Come on now, Clover. We need to go... ... ... Alice would want you to survive, wouldn't she? You'll never be able to figure out why all this happened if you stay here. Please... ... ... You're right... I'll figure out who Zero really is. I mean, if you'd never been locked up in here, you never would have... This never would have happened. So...so it's like Zero killed you. I... I promise... ... ... I'll avenge you. Clover stood up and rubbed her hands roughly over her eyes, smearing tears across her cheeks. Then, with a determined frown, she strode out of the room. You guys head on down to the floor B warehouse. We'll catch up with you later. Oh, right. Quark's got the yellow bracelet, which makes him your partner, right? Yeah. Can't exactly leave him behind. Without him, we'd end up stuck in the AB Room... Uh huh. Okay, let's go. We'll see the rest of you once we've picked up Quark. Very well. Until we meet again.
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So what happens if we can't crack this plot lock. Does Clover murder everyone or not? I need to know!
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Aug 18, 2015 18:58
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:So what happens if we can't crack this plot lock. Does Clover murder everyone or not? I need to know! Plot locks don't have alternate results, they just don't progress at all until you get outside knowledge. It would say "to be continued" and boot you back to the scene select tree.
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Aug 18, 2015 18:59
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Fedule posted:
Clover gotta Clover 
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Aug 18, 2015 19:03
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I think I've said it before, but Chill and Rigor is such a fitting name for that track. Also I like how obviously they're playing with people's expectations when it comes to Clover and murdering people. They know people have almost definitely played through 999 before this.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:10
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It's been pointed out before, but god drat is Clover's default smile expression tremendously unfitting for some scenes.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:12
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maswastaken posted:I like how there's a bracelet-shaped gap in the blood splatter on her arm and a completely spotless bracelet. A vital clue or... developer laziness?! theshim posted:It's been pointed out before, but god drat is Clover's default smile expression tremendously unfitting for some scenes. Yep
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Aug 18, 2015 19:28
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theshim posted:It's been pointed out before, but god drat is Clover's default smile expression tremendously unfitting for some scenes. A glitch in the game? Or a subtle clue that Clover was a robot all along.   Hell I wouldn't put it past Uchikoshi to pull something like that. Really though I still don't trust Clover in this story at all, for a host of reasons. Even beyond the whole "I'm clearly an unhinged crazy person who's only half a step away from wanting to murder everyone" thing.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:34
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Oh hey, plot locks, almost forgot they were a thing!  But seriously, Clover gotta Clover, loving amoral bitch gonna die.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:50
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:So what happens if we can't crack this plot lock. Does Clover murder everyone or not? I need to know! To Be Continued. Clover doesn't kill anyone. I am kinda tickled we got this scene after all the Axe Ending talk, though.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:35
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:To Be Continued. Clover doesn't kill anyone. While she doesn't kill anyone in THIS path, it's pretty obvious now (if it wasn't already) that she was the one who killed Luna in our first playthrough.
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Aug 18, 2015 22:16
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:To Be Continued. Clover doesn't kill anyone. VLR had to be toned down significantly compared to 999. The publisher believed that the copious amounts of gore turned a lot of Japanese consumers off from the game. So we probably won't be seeing anything like the Axe Ending or "the globules of fat crawling down the wall like slugs". 
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Aug 18, 2015 23:30
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Kay Kessler posted:VLR had to be toned down significantly compared to 999. The publisher believed that the copious amounts of gore turned a lot of Japanese consumers off from the game. So we probably won't be seeing anything like the Axe Ending or "the globules of fat crawling down the wall like slugs". For me, VLR more than makes up for its lack of gore with its general ambiance. Especially if Sinisterness, Eeriness or Consternation is playing during a scene. I didn't so much as bat an eyelash at some of the stuff that was described in 999. Conversely, Quark's attempted suicide while screaming for the others to kill him genuinely freaked me the hell out. W.T. Fits fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Aug 19, 2015 00:17
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I will admit that I was somewhat turned off by 999 by all the gory murder stuff at first, I climatized to it well though. I have been enjoying the tone of VLR though.
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Aug 19, 2015 00:19
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W.T. Fits posted:For me, VLR more than makes up for its lack of gore with its general ambiance. Especially if Sinisterness, Eeriness or Consternation is playing during a scene. Clover's ending where Sigma slits his throat was pretty unsettling.
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Aug 19, 2015 00:20
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I'm still not convinced that Clover isn't Patient Zero and/or an asymptomatic carrier of Radical-6, thus making all these deaths her fault. 
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Aug 20, 2015 04:31
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Man, Sigma is the worst doctor-in-training.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:20
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RelentlessImp posted:I'm still not convinced that Clover isn't Patient Zero and/or an asymptomatic carrier of Radical-6, thus making all these deaths her fault. I'd be more inclined to believe it was Alice, bringing it from the past with her ice-IX mummy powers.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:56
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If there's any 'Patient Zero', I fully expect it to be that wanker Dio. He probably brought a vial of the stuff in for the express purpose of infecting everyone. Its not like he'd care about getting infected himself after all.
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Listen in: [English/Japanese] Yeah, I just woke up. Hey... Where's everybody else...? Oh God...Quark... VLR OST: [Confession] Tenmyouji's entire body shook with emotion as he drew closer to him. He cautiously laid a trembling hand on the boy's shoulder, almost as if he were afraid Quark would disappear in a puff of smoke the moment he was touched. When Quark proved to indeed be corporeal, Tenmyouji let out a cry and threw his arms around him. I-It's nothing... Nothing's wrong, I'm... I'm fine... But... Quark gave him a puzzled look. Tenmyouji didn't even notice. His face was a mixture of happiness and relief, and I could see tears twinkling from the wrinkled corners of his eyes. All traces of his usual gruff stoicism had vanished. I didn't want to interrupt such a happy reunion, but we were running out of time. Still, Tenmyouji deserved a few minutes. I left them alone. At last Tenmyouji seemed to recover, and shifted from an embrace to a protective arm around the shoulder. Listen in: [English/Japanese] Feeling? Well, okay, I guess. Was I sick or something? No, no you're not sick. If you feel fine, then you're fine. Huh...? I'm sorry... I should never have gotten you involved in all this... What are you apologizing for? Sorry... You're doing it again. Are you sure you're okay? ... ... So...where's everybody else? Mr. Sigma's here, but he's just been standing there looking kinda silly... I gave him a nervous smile and explained about the white doors. I got the feeling Tenmyouji didn't want Quark to know about Radical-6, so I avoided any mention of it. Alice's death was something I also left for later... Okay, that makes sense... That's means I'm on a team with you guys, right? Right. So, um, these white doors...when are they going to open? Aah! That's not good! We need to hurry! C'mon! How do we get to the floor B warehouse?! Okay, okay, we're going. Follow me! VLR OST: [Demise] Five minutes remain until Chromatic Doors close. Listen in: [English/Japanese] Q-Quark...? You're awake! And fully recovered, apparently. I am also relieved to see you well again. Me too... What are you talking about? I looked out at the others from behind Quark and held a warning finger up to my lips. There were a few momentarily raised eyebrows and some nervous coughing as everyone suddenly fell silent. Huh? From Quark's perspective, it must have seemed especially odd. We need to hurry! But there are three doors... Which team goes in which door? All of the doors are identical for this round. I believe it doesn't matter which team uses which door. Why that one? You want a kill-shot, you aim for the center. You're more likely to just miss the extremities. That logic is flawed and more than slightly disturbing. Unfortunately, I don't really have a counterargument, so center door it is. I suppose we could go with the one on the left... Is that okay? I mean, we could go with the other one if you want... K and Clover only nodded. The door on the right. Any objections? ... ... All right, let's move! Thirty seconds remain until Chromatic Doors close. Hurry it up, Phi! This thing's gonna close! I know! It's time we were going as well! Right! Sure. Come on guys, there's no time to waste! Right behind you. Let's go! Two...One...Zero. Chromatic Doors closing... [Music fades out] VLR OST: [Sinisterness] What's this place? Listen in: [English/Japanese] Probably the office of whoever it is that's running this place. It said "Director's Office" on the door. Maybe. Or maybe not. Well which is it? Why the hell would I know? If this really is Zero Sr.'s room, there might be some clues! Yeah, you got a point. Let's get started, then. Fedule fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Aug 22, 2015 |
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Aug 21, 2015 19:48
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Even if it isn't Zero Sr.'s office (it isn't Zero Sr.'s office, obviously), I expect it will be a wellspring of information that should help explain a lot of the what and why left over. Or at least some of it. I suppose we can presume that this room was where the Mars simulation/emergency shelter/whatever this thing is was run from.
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Aug 21, 2015 19:55
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Quark has been such a non-person throughout this whole thing that it's straight up weird having him around and talking. Also I didn't notice Tenmyouji's anime-style tear stream on the 3DS at all due to the lower resolution, much like with Clover's perma-smile it was probably better that way since it looks a bit silly. Haven't done the puzzle room yet, should be interesting.
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Well, the person who wanted another white door got their wish.Kanfy posted:Quark has been such a non-person throughout this whole thing that it's straight up weird having him around and talking. Yeah. Thus far, Quark gas been an extension of Tenmyouji or a poor, helpless kid the game tries to guilt trip you out of betraying.
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Aug 21, 2015 20:14
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Hey, Fedule, The first English audio link in this update goes to the Japanese one.
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Aug 21, 2015 20:44
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I don't really remember why but I get the feeling this was a pretty good puzzle room.
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Aug 21, 2015 23:08
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I get the feeling that this miiiight just shed some light on the first (soft) plot lock that we encountered in the LP's first route. Same room and everything.
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By the way, in case anyone has forgotten, we have (however briefly) been in this room before. Oh and from shortly after that update Heavy neutrino posted:Hahaha. I've been waiting to see the thread's reaction when we hit that roadblock with four or five mysteries still in the air. Heh....... months Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Aug 21, 2015 23:32
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I love the trophy titles in this game.  Also surprised this .gif wasn't getting more love for the timing on that trophy popping up.
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Regy Rusty posted:By the way, in case anyone has forgotten, we have (however briefly) been in this room before. Kind of reminds me... Are we now at the point where we can frame-by-frame the flashing image from the end of that update and post it here (I don't know how to frame-by-frame a flashing image)? Also, is anyone keeping count of how many lions we've found so far?
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Aumanor posted:Kind of reminds me... Are we now at the point where we can frame-by-frame the flashing image from the end of that update and post it here (I don't know how to frame-by-frame a flashing image)? Not unless you know the username and password.
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Interesting. Last time we hit this room (how many years ago was that?  ) the game came to a halt waiting on us to 'remember' the password from some other timeline. Now it's just a typical room escape. Re-reading the old post it looks like the main difference then was the terminal was powered on and waiting for that login. Now we've got a full group and every reason to ignore the PC in favor of finding the safe codes, etc. I... don't have any mind blowing translation discrepancies to report this month. Listened to both tracks as usual (first link was double-Japanese, as someone noted) and everything seems exactly on point. So let's talk about a difference that is almost completely irrelevant! C'mon, it'll be fun. What I noticed is that the naming of the two Zero characters present in this scenario have been changed into "Zero Sr" and "Zero Jr" while the original reads "Zero-bosu" and "Zero-usagi". If you somehow got all the way into this thread without ever seeing so much as one anime, that translates to Boss Zero and Rabbit Zero. The only sensible reason I can fathom for making that switch is to save character space on-screen for the translated lines (surely storage space in the cartridge or disc is no longer an issue?). Kind of a lame nitpick, I know. Maybe next update will have something more substantial to poke at. 
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Audio link fixed, have at it.
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I always thought "Zero Sr" and "Zero Jr" sounded like a weird way of distinguishing them. Why not just call the Mastermind "Zero II" since clearly that's who they are?
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Aumanor posted:Also, is anyone keeping count of how many lions we've found so far? I really have too much free time. Going over the rooms we've seen so far in the LP order: Lounge: Here's our first sun And here's the first lion (red letters) Security room: Director's Office: Laboratory: Garden: Here's a lion And here's the sun And finally (for now), Treatment Center: For a total of six lions.
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Aug 22, 2015 01:57
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Fedule posted:Audio link fixed, have at it. Thanks!
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Aug 22, 2015 01:59
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I always thought "Zero Sr" and "Zero Jr" sounded like a weird way of distinguishing them. Wasn't it revealed that 999's Zero was the second, because there'd been a prior Nonary Game?
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Aug 22, 2015 02:19
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Gordain and Ace ran prior games, but never used the Zero moniker.
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Aug 22, 2015 02:25
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Naerylan posted:Interesting. Last time we hit this room (how many years ago was that? Aug 28, 2013. Oh man, exactly a week under two years.
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Weird that Quark didn't notice Alice was missing, but I guess it might have been the heat of the moment.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Man, Sigma is the worst doctor-in-training. Do we know what he's actually studying? I think we've only been told he's pursuing a PhD.
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