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neogeo0823
Jul 4, 2007

NO THAT'S NOT ME!!

Mice Everywhere posted:

Here's a beginner's SS13 story from the old thread. I don't remember who it came from exactly but it's one of my favorites

Hey, I remember writing that! Glad someone out there likes it. :neckbeard:

semper wifi posted:

look at this man, reduced to angry shitposting by the mere threat of poo

with griefing powers like this how can u not bring poo back??

Look at this child, reduced to angry poo poo posting by the mere removal of poo.

With griefing powers like this, how can you not remember to properly type a sentence??

Poo will never come back. Find a more creative way to make someone mad.

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Moonshine Rhyme
Mar 26, 2010

Hate Hate Hate Hate Hate
New thread guys lets gently caress it up by arguing about poo.
Context free picture dump

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Daeren
Aug 18, 2009

YER MUSTACHE IS CROOKED








Sometimes the admins gently caress around. These rounds are recognizable by absolutely absurd things happening for little to no reason that end up killing most of the entire crew in spectacular fashions.

So, to new players, they will be nearly indistinguishable from any other round.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
I think you all are forgetting the biggest thing that they need to bring back.




Bring back the Head Surgeon position :colbert:

BlueDestiny
Jun 18, 2011

Mega deal with it

Leal posted:

I think you all are forgetting the biggest thing that they need to bring back.




Bring back the Head Surgeon position :colbert:

What do you mean? He's right there every round! Typically does more than those good for nothing doctors anyways.

Mice Everywhere
Sep 7, 2007

I love animal porn! So F* you if you don't accept that!

meadowlark
May 25, 2012

Supernorn posted:

Updated the bottom of the OP with instructions. For some reason I hadn't added them in my half-asleep state last night.

That doesn't help with my situation at all. ;_;

neogeo0823
Jul 4, 2007

NO THAT'S NOT ME!!

Sir_Seth posted:

That doesn't help with my situation at all. ;_;

I'd wager a guess that you should get on IRC and ask there.

meadowlark
May 25, 2012

neogeo0823 posted:

I'd wager a guess that you should get on IRC and ask there.

Banned from there, too.



*cough*

neogeo0823
Jul 4, 2007

NO THAT'S NOT ME!!

Welp, then maybe you're just hosed. Not trying to be mean, but you must've been a serious shitheel at some point to warrant a full ban. Like, drat. What did you even do?

meadowlark
May 25, 2012

neogeo0823 posted:

Welp, then maybe you're just hosed. Not trying to be mean, but you must've been a serious shitheel at some point to warrant a full ban. Like, drat. What did you even do?

This was months ago, it was not for the usual reasons others are banned for, like griefing or hateful slurring. I was just being a silly brat for awhile, and the mins got fed up with me.

neogeo0823
Jul 4, 2007

NO THAT'S NOT ME!!

Oh, well then... Uh, I guess wait till one of the admins reads through the thread here? I don't really know what can be done beyond that.

cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



Leal posted:

I think you all are forgetting the biggest thing that they need to bring back.




Bring back the Head Surgeon position :colbert:

RIP Head Surgeon. Added because the RD didn't give a poo poo about medbay, removed even though the RD still doesn't give a poo poo about medbay and never will.

neogeo0823
Jul 4, 2007

NO THAT'S NOT ME!!

I thought HS was removed almost entirely because it was a superfluous role that had no special anything that a regular medic couldn't get or do? I could totally see HS coming back if the medical segment of the game got a bit more complex and branched out a bit. Currently it's just standard and genetics, right? Does robotics count for it as well? I know RD has telescience, chemlab, toxins, and... does he have mining as well? Why do I feel like he's got mining?

Isn't there a genetics overhaul in the works? I know it was at least being talked about. If genetics gets overhauled, and maybe they add in something like the prosthetic limbs and stuff that people have been talking about, we could bring back HS to oversee all of that.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

neogeo0823 posted:

I thought HS was removed almost entirely because it was a superfluous role that had no special anything that a regular medic couldn't get or do? I could totally see HS coming back if the medical segment of the game got a bit more complex and branched out a bit. Currently it's just standard and genetics, right? Does robotics count for it as well? I know RD has telescience, chemlab, toxins, and... does he have mining as well? Why do I feel like he's got mining?

Isn't there a genetics overhaul in the works? I know it was at least being talked about. If genetics gets overhauled, and maybe they add in something like the prosthetic limbs and stuff that people have been talking about, we could bring back HS to oversee all of that.

Mining is technically under engineering, but when has that ever mattered?

Daeren
Aug 18, 2009

YER MUSTACHE IS CROOKED

neogeo0823 posted:

I thought HS was removed almost entirely because it was a superfluous role that had no special anything that a regular medic couldn't get or do? I could totally see HS coming back if the medical segment of the game got a bit more complex and branched out a bit. Currently it's just standard and genetics, right? Does robotics count for it as well? I know RD has telescience, chemlab, toxins, and... does he have mining as well? Why do I feel like he's got mining?

Isn't there a genetics overhaul in the works? I know it was at least being talked about. If genetics gets overhauled, and maybe they add in something like the prosthetic limbs and stuff that people have been talking about, we could bring back HS to oversee all of that.

Basically this, yes. RDs were hacked off that they couldn't dabble in mad science when they felt like it, science roles were about to be rolled together into just Scientists (which RD at the time would be indistinguishable from), HS as a role never got taken very seriously, and aside from access to genetics and medbay's store of lootable medical supplies, they weren't worth a drat and were only notable as an easily forgettable speedbump in a Revolution round.

Genetics is getting a massive overhaul because the DNA code...well.

You remember that scene from Alien: Resurrection where Ripley and the cast of Firefly go into that medical bay and there's a bunch of hosed up failed clones of Ripley the bad guys are keeping around for some reason? And the only clone that's even kinda functional is still a horrific hosed up mutant that can barely manage to say "kill me"?

That is what the DNA code was like. A giant, convoluted mess with scraps from old versions still lurking about in poorly-documented corners because of ten years of kudzu coding on top of a terrible platform. The whole code is like that to some degree, which is why there's a remake in progress, but the DNA code was apparently the coding equivalent of a tire fire.

Portals
Apr 18, 2012

Hey, remember that time that someone made 20 singularities at once?



And then two more showed up on the escape shuttle?


Good times.

MonkeyforaHead
Apr 7, 2006


God, you vindictive bitch, why can't I ever have any "me" time

The first and last time I tried to play this, I knocked myself unconscious trying to pick up a toolbox, then very nearly a second time trying to open it. Then a passing crewmember injected me with a cocktail that knocked me out, and upon awakening I found my legs useless, my speech inflicted with a chronic slur, and I had developed a violent case of narcolepsy.

It took me some time to gather (at the wrong end of a security baton, while still unable to stand, in between bouts of unconsciousness) that my assailant had stolen my helmet and nametag, and gone around griefing the entire station into catastrophic meltdown under my name. My attempts to explain between mouthfuls of tongue that I hadn't been mobile, much less awake for the duration of the round, were pretty unconvincing to the crew, most of whom were calling for my ban. One kind soul saw fit to drag my nonfunctional corpse the remainder of the way to the escape shuttle, and while I didn't end up banned, I had pretty much been labeled an object of distrust already.

So, there was that, and there was the horrible client lag. Great first impression.

Kernel Monsoon
Jul 18, 2006
Meanwhile over at BYOND: Tom adopts a defeatist attitude, contemplates his many mistakes, and quietly waits for the inevitable..



Tom posted:

You've actually been using BYOND since 2006 and haven't contributed a cent, so I don't really care about your input.

Tom posted:

No, they actually aren't "customers" unless they buy something. Now it's true that some people contribute in other ways by making games or helping users, by and large the majority of our userbase are leeches who complain a lot but don't do anything to help out. And that is why this project is going to die.


Tom posted:

There are plenty of things we could try but I am tired. I am not disappointed by BYOND the software but BYOND the business never worked, and spending so many years trying to massage something into a business is just the wrong way of going about things.

We may do a spinoff project using some of the network technology and community infrastructure we've developed through BYOND. It would be hard to make a financially successful game in BYOND (although we've had a few, and I admire those that attempt it) and, frankly, I'm sick of looking at the code.

Hopefully BYOND makes enough to support the servers and the time we need to maintain things. If so, we can keep it around indefinitely and y'all will just have to accept that it is basically a finished product (aside from bug fixes). If not, we'll figure out a way to offload the central hub and make sure there are no issues with existing games (as well as future developments). And we could see about open-sourcing the software so others could continue it (although I have strong reservations that this would ever work).

Tom posted:

SS13 has been very successful and I hope to see it do well in the future, whether that be on BYOND or in their new ambitious development. However, to be clear, it hasn't helped us because SS13 users rarely visit BYOND to play other games, contribute to ad revenue, or help other users. People assume that "more traffic == good" but that is only the case when that traffic nets you something. Now perhaps we'll make something through the interstitial ads from SS13 users although I tend to think, from my encounters with many of them, that they'll just complain and stick to the old pager, which is fine.

quote:

The ad system and Membership "nagware" may make enough to keep us afloat, but I can tell already from looking at the preliminary numbers that they will not push us forward.

..And that's fine. I am not heartbroken over this. We've had a good run.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


I'd love to try this game one more time but A) I'm too honest to survive long on SS13 and B) the shitacular client makes me twitch every time it lags out. :(

girth brooks part 2
Sep 6, 2011

Bush did 911
Fun Shoe

MonkeyforaHead posted:

The first and last time I tried to play this, I knocked myself unconscious trying to pick up a toolbox, then very nearly a second time trying to open it. Then a passing crewmember injected me with a cocktail that knocked me out, and upon awakening I found my legs useless, my speech inflicted with a chronic slur, and I had developed a violent case of narcolepsy.

It took me some time to gather (at the wrong end of a security baton, while still unable to stand, in between bouts of unconsciousness) that my assailant had stolen my helmet and nametag, and gone around griefing the entire station into catastrophic meltdown under my name. My attempts to explain between mouthfuls of tongue that I hadn't been mobile, much less awake for the duration of the round, were pretty unconvincing to the crew, most of whom were calling for my ban. One kind soul saw fit to drag my nonfunctional corpse the remainder of the way to the escape shuttle, and while I didn't end up banned, I had pretty much been labeled an object of distrust already.

So, there was that, and there was the horrible client lag. Great first impression.

Picking Security as a job for your first round was your main problem. Don't do that. Security is one of the most thankless and stress inducing roles you can play. The admins would know what's up so you didn't have to worry about getting a ban just because someone was pretending to be you. An irate crew calling for your head is pretty standard. Try not to worry about it, because chances are it will be completely forgotten by the start of next round. If someone does try and give you hell for stuff that happened in a different round then admin it, because that poo poo don't fly.

As for the lag, well... Byond is all I can say about that.

girth brooks part 2 fucked around with this message at 02:46 on May 30, 2013

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

Supernorn posted:

Meanwhile over at BYOND: Tom adopts a defeatist attitude, contemplates his many mistakes, and quietly waits for the inevitable..



quote:



A friend of mine (former SS13 developer for Baystation, I think?) was looking into making a new BYOND game and tried to suggest some improvements to their syntax that'd make coding for it a bit easier and clean up some awkwardness with control flow. The people in charge blew him off entirely, if I recall right.

Somehow this doesn't surprise me; BYOND doesn't seem like it's had a significant change in years, and my first experience with the client was well over 5 years ago at this rate.


MonkeyforaHead posted:

One kind soul saw fit to drag my nonfunctional corpse the remainder of the way to the escape shuttle, and while I didn't end up banned, I had pretty much been labeled an object of distrust already.
Admins are generally pretty cool and know who did what, and if you're not being a complete shitheel/weirdo they'll talk to you and try to figure out what's up, in my experience.

And besides, object of distrust? Just turn on the random name option and switch up your character each round :q:

Moonshine Rhyme
Mar 26, 2010

Hate Hate Hate Hate Hate

Ciaphas posted:

I'd love to try this game one more time but A) I'm too honest to survive long on SS13 and B) the shitacular client makes me twitch every time it lags out. :(

There are all sorts in this game, generally you only need dishonesty if you are an antagonist. That really just boils down to isolating people and murdering them. I've been playing for a year and the client still pisses me off sometimes, but you get used to it and just gotta learn to deal with it and not take the game too seriously.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

neogeo0823 posted:

Welp, then maybe you're just hosed. Not trying to be mean, but you must've been a serious shitheel at some point to warrant a full ban. Like, drat. What did you even do?

He is Humble Bee.

Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project :roboluv: is go

MonkeyforaHead posted:

....My attempts to explain between mouthfuls of tongue that I hadn't been mobile, much less awake for the duration of the round, were pretty unconvincing to the crew, most of whom were calling for my ban. One kind soul saw fit to drag my nonfunctional corpse the remainder of the way to the escape shuttle, and while I didn't end up banned, I had pretty much been labeled an object of distrust already.

People who call for or threaten bans in-game instead of just using adminhelp are morons.
We strongly encourage traitors to infuriate people and sully the names of innocents, so yeah, you wouldn't get banned for being the target of that. What the heck.

meadowlark
May 25, 2012

atomicthumbs posted:

He is Humble Bee.

Only in name. During the past few months, I have undergone many revelations, shed my previous self and, like a moth, have become a beautiful butterfly.

Wiccan Wasteland
Oct 15, 2012

Supernorn posted:

Meanwhile over at BYOND: Tom adopts a defeatist attitude, contemplates his many mistakes, and quietly waits for the inevitable..



I remember back in the good ole days when Dragonball Zeta dominated BYOND. Also I havent read the byond forums in years and there seems to be alot of dislike for Space Station 13 now. Do they hate all of the traffic and ad revenue that it brings?

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
I remember my first time being a changeling, I spent the entire time dragging random dead bodies into the crematorium after I was done "borging" them (because who goes in there, honestly) and absorbing them. My colleagues stood up for me when someone thought I was the changeling, because I saved their life from another traitor by stinging him when he attacked. Of course, all they saw was me whacking the guy round the head with a toolbox.

Eventually I was offed by a vampire, because every round i'm in with a vampire, they dominate. I have no idea how you're meant to deal with an invisible attacker.

Ferrovanadium
Mar 22, 2013

APEX PREDATOR

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dogstile posted:

I have no idea how you're meant to deal with an invisible attacker.

Stop giving me flashbacks to the round where I joined late and the station was empty save for an invisible traitor janitor meatcubing everything that moved!

Daeren
Aug 18, 2009

YER MUSTACHE IS CROOKED

Sir_Seth posted:

Only in name. During the past few months, I have undergone many revelations, shed my previous self and, like a moth, have become a beautiful butterfly.

Shut up Humble

dogstile posted:

Eventually I was offed by a vampire, because every round i'm in with a vampire, they dominate. I have no idea how you're meant to deal with an invisible attacker.

Vampires were formerly "balanced" by being incredibly weak before getting a rather large chunk of blood. This led to most vampires tying a guy to a chair with a medbot next to them and drinking from them for ten minutes before going on an unstoppable rampage. Now with the rebalancing of feeding and their early powers, especially the flash-like stun they get, they're far more viable to play early on, but still absolutely terrifying when full on blood. A vampire can be dealt with pretty simply if you nail them early, but by the time they get to 500+ blood you might as well bend over. In mixed rounds, the one traitor team-up I trust above all others to clean out the entire station is a vampire and a changeling working together. Combined, they have tons of ways to incapacitate victims and ensure secrecy, and a vampire can get all they need from a prone victim without the changeling losing any DNA from the corpse left behind. I've racked up obscene body counts as a vampire/changeling working with others like this.

Of course, sometimes you reveal yourself and you just get whacked, as shown earlier :v:.

neogeo0823
Jul 4, 2007

NO THAT'S NOT ME!!

atomicthumbs posted:

He is Humble Bee.

For anyone who's curious about who Humble Bee is, I looked that name up on the Donglab forums. The most recent unban thread is here. Oh, hey, this sounds familiar:

Humble Bee posted:

I was generally a poo poo-head too and the time since my banning I've been rehabilitated of my former poo poo-head ways and all I ask now is for forgiveness.
And the response:

GorillaMyDreams posted:

Yeah I'll lift it but I'm going to be holding you to your word because god drat alot of us had to deal with you. You'll be on a short chain for a good while, please don't make me regret this.
So. Did you regret it, GorillaMyDreams? :allears:

meadowlark
May 25, 2012
Change is a slow progression. At the time I thought I was fully rehabilitated. Since the last ban I have given a lot of thought about my errors, and can at least tell you I'm a much different person compared to what I was then. For instance, I've learned that the BMI of others is purely their own business and not mine. :)

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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This is already turning into a pro as h*ck SS13 thread.

Moonshine Rhyme
Mar 26, 2010

Hate Hate Hate Hate Hate
Just checked that humble bee thing and found out that donglabs has a mobile version. Color me impressed.

Portals
Apr 18, 2012

atomicthumbs posted:

He is Humble Bee.

Ouch. I was wondering why I hadn't been seeing that name around.

What happened to PDAs? I noticed that I don't spawn with one anymore.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Portals posted:

Ouch. I was wondering why I hadn't been seeing that name around.

What happened to PDAs? I noticed that I don't spawn with one anymore.

Yeah, sometimes you do and sometimes you don't.

Annoying and rude of the game to spawn me as a traitor engineer and refuse my means of gaining phat l3wt.

Doctor Doodler
Feb 14, 2012
The only reason people keep their PDA is for traitor items. Most of the time it's left in a box or thrown on the floor. A PDA app store would be cool and give people a reason not to throw theirs in the trash.
Spend your life savings on an owl icon pack, waste time with virtual owl 2.0 or jailbreak it and make it never stop honking.

Geight
Aug 7, 2010

Oh, All-Knowing One, behold me!
PDAs seem like they have a whole lot of potential that is completely wasted because they are inconvenient and people are lazy. I hope people not spawning with them is a bug though because that's kind of a nerf to the detomax which is a thing of joy.

Poland Spring
Sep 11, 2005
Frankly I get a lot of use out of PDAs, especially when blind or trapped without a radio.

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Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project :roboluv: is go
It was a bug. Job preference backend code was changed recently and it messed up the job loadouts for some people.

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