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bengraven posted:I wonder if he's planning on going slow through this. I think we'll have baby, toddler, child and early to mid teen arcs for Hazel, each about 18 issues long. Adult Hazel will be in the epilogue; BKV likes doing after-the-fact stories for his final issues.
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A thing I didn't enjoy in this latest issue was Marko pushing Alana off the tower, and it being framed as though he knew she could fly. There was no reason to know or think that, and it doesn't feel like something a believable character might do.
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Feb 1, 2014 17:23
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Well, the point was that he didn't know at all, he just believed she could fly because sometimes when you love someone you just believe stuff. But speaking of interpretations of scenes from issue #18, when Gwendolyn is on the rooftop looking at The Will, she says she doesn't know what else she could do, to which Sophie replies "Lying". The question is : considering it's not Lying Cat that's saying that when he's there and fully able to call her out, is it actually not a lie and Gwendolyn is genuinely confused?
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Feb 1, 2014 17:48
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ElNarez posted:Well, the point was that he didn't know at all, he just believed she could fly because sometimes when you love someone you just believe stuff. I got the impression that if Sophie hadn't called her out on it, then Lying Cat would have.
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Feb 1, 2014 19:00
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ElNarez posted:But speaking of interpretations of scenes from issue #18, when Gwendolyn is on the rooftop looking at The Will, she says she doesn't know what else she could do, to which Sophie replies "Lying". The question is: considering it's not Lying Cat that's saying that when he's there and fully able to call her out, is it actually not a lie and Gwendolyn is genuinely confused? Other things she could do for the Will include giving him a clean death instead of leaving him to rot in a vegetative state for god knows how long.
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Feb 1, 2014 19:45
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Shitshow posted:I got the impression that if Sophie hadn't called her out on it, then Lying Cat would have. Yeah, Lying Cat's knowing wink there makes it seem safe to assume Sophie is just saying it for Lying Cat.
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Feb 1, 2014 19:57
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RandallODim posted:Yeah, Lying Cat's knowing wink there makes it seem safe to assume Sophie is just saying it for Lying Cat. It's not a wink, it's a missing eye.
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Feb 1, 2014 20:01
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"Knowing wink," is either a good joke, or a sign you need to re-read the issue!
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Feb 1, 2014 21:10
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Wendell posted:"Knowing wink," is either a good joke, or a sign you need to re-read the issue! I think I do, because I definitely missed that or misremembered it. Edit: Yeah, looking back I don't know how I missed that. Glad folks pointed it out for me. On a different angle, toddler Hazel's little hat is adorable. RandallODim fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Feb 1, 2014 |
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Feb 1, 2014 22:24
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Toddler walks down the street in that hat, you know she ain't afraid of anything.
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Feb 2, 2014 07:09
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Once it hit me that The Will named the girl after his sister, mixed with that beautiful image of The Brand with tears in her eyes, I got all misty. Well played, BKV. 
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Feb 2, 2014 07:44
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Shitshow posted:I got the impression that if Sophie hadn't called her out on it, then Lying Cat would have. I always thought it was more of a reflex thing, like he had to say "Lying" whenever he heard a lie.
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Feb 2, 2014 18:47
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ElNarez posted:I always thought it was more of a reflex thing, like he had to say "Lying" whenever he heard a lie. Possibly, but just because Lying Cat knows you're lying doesn't mean she has to say. It might be that things we believe to be true because she didn't call the speaker out are in fact lies. All we know for certain is that if Lying Cat said someone was lying then they were.
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Feb 2, 2014 19:15
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Well now I'm worried because it seems like a foregone conclusion that Lying Cat is going to die while revealing to the audience (but no one else) that someone has betrayed our heroes. With its last dying breath, it'll say "Lying" and we'll know someone is a traitor. 
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Feb 3, 2014 02:01
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In space, no one can hear you say "lying".
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Reinanigans posted:Well now I'm worried because it seems like a foregone conclusion that Lying Cat is going to die while revealing to the audience (but no one else) that someone has betrayed our heroes. With its last dying breath, it'll say "Lying" and we'll know someone is a traitor. Unless Lying Cat is the traitor, and says someone is lying when they weren't.
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Feb 3, 2014 09:14
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Wendell posted:A thing I didn't enjoy in this latest issue was Marko pushing Alana off the tower, and it being framed as though he knew she could fly. There was no reason to know or think that, and it doesn't feel like something a believable character might do. Yeah, that didn't work for me either. BKV likes setting up for dramatic cliffhangers a bit too much (blame all those years working on Lost).
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David Copperfield posted:Yeah, that didn't work for me either. Wasn't he on the show for just one season? The moment struck me as one of total desperation. Either she would fly and be safe or fall to her death and be spared the assumedly awful alternative.
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Feb 3, 2014 16:25
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It was a false cliffhanger. We've seen Landfall people fly, and there was no mention of them not being able to because of anything short of cutting off their wings. I probably would chalk it up to "hey let's make this cool looking dramatic panel sequence" over plot. Also: what's the deal with gunshots to the head sometimes not killing people?
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Feb 3, 2014 16:55
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Jedit posted:Possibly, but just because Lying Cat knows you're lying doesn't mean she has to say. It might be that things we believe to be true because she didn't call the speaker out are in fact lies. All we know for certain is that if Lying Cat said someone was lying then they were. I thought the bits about how they are bound to want things to be "right" or whatever kind of implied that they can't just let a lie go. So Sophie calling the lie out covers it but otherwise Lying Cat has to.
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David Copperfield posted:It was a false cliffhanger. We've seen Landfall people fly, and there was no mention of them not being able to because of anything short of cutting off their wings. page 6. "I told you, these things are vestigial! I can't even glide, all I can do is plummet!" quote:Also: what's the deal with gunshots to the head sometimes not killing people? Sometimes they don't. Biology is hosed up that way.
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Oh, nevermind.
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Feb 3, 2014 22:57
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Also Alana's pistol is just a stun gun, so it wouldn't kill a healthy adult anyway.
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RandallODim posted:Also Alana's pistol is just a stun gun, so it wouldn't kill a healthy adult anyway. Specifically, it's a Heartbreaker. It makes you feel as if someone's broken your heart.
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Feb 4, 2014 00:10
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I'm rereading the first issue and the whole "I can't fly" "yes you can I believe in you" is actually here as well, so her flying actually was a big deal fwiw.
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Feb 8, 2014 23:09
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Here's some fanart I thought was worth sharing.
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Feb 10, 2014 23:04
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Kull the Conqueror posted:Once it hit me that The Will named the girl after his sister, mixed with that beautiful image of The Brand with tears in her eyes, I got all misty. Well played, BKV.  I don't know why I never made that connection, I just assumed that The Brand was just pretending to be his sister to get to him and answered to the name to avoid obvious awkwardness.
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Feb 11, 2014 01:00
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The collected volume 3 is out! Good printing. The whole "the opposite of war is loving" "reveal" made me laugh, it was very goofy.
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I actually got a bit emotional at that scene. Part of it was that I was impressed at the payoff of the orgy. I didn't event think there was going to be a payoff to that. But it also just reminds you how tragic all of this is. Prince Robot doesn't want to hurt anyone. He just wants to gently caress his wife and raise his kid. All of the bad things he does are for that. Sex is just the most literal interpretation of the need and want to connect with others as war is the most literal interpretation of the need to destroy others.
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I haven't read comics in years and years. Not regularly since, like, the late 90s/early 2000s. I just downloaded the Comixology app and gave it a whirl, though, and I'm loving some of the stuff that's out now. Hawkguy, Savage Wolverine, but especially this. I plowed through the first three volumes and I'm seriously tempted to buy a subscription, but I really want to wait for the collected editions. God, I hate Fiona Staples so much for being so good at what she does. Looking at her stuff makes everything I do seem sloppy and stupid but I just can't stop looking.
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Mar 28, 2014 02:46
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While I get waiting for collections, I'll say reading this as a monthly is a joy. Every first page is amazing and every issue is really filling.
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Mar 28, 2014 02:53
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Aw, what the gently caress? They got iTunes gift cards on sale this weekend, anyway.
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Mar 28, 2014 03:03
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The cover for #19 has me so excited. It pretty much confirms that they're going to join the acting troupe. Also, for those following month to month, remember May 21st is the return date.
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Buying the trades sent me mad waiting for Volume 3. How on Earth am I going to survive until Volume 4?!?!?!?! (Been reading through Y:TLM just to keep me entertained, but it's not as good as Saga)
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Man, I was out on a remote island hiking on Wednesday and now that I'm back absolutely everywhere I go is sold out of Volume 3. It's bothering me more than it should considering I have all the single issues. edit: Or wait, has it been out for two weeks? That might explain it. Anyway pretty excited for #19 and the different direction they're hinting at.
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Mar 31, 2014 21:10
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Being a trade reader is a terrible life. Volume 3 was the best one yet. I HATED Prince Robot IV so much until his reboot. gently caress. Noone deserves that. 
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Apr 20, 2014 11:56
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You're not supposed to like IV, you're supposed to empathize with him. While what he's doing is terrible his motivations for doing so are relatable in similar ways as the rest of the casts' are. I don't hate the guy, he just wants to get back home to his family; he has no reason to protect Marko or Alana or give a poo poo about any random freelancer. I'm curious what's changed for him by issue 19 assuming we see him again.
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Do we know when the hiatus is ending? I seem to remember it being this month but I'm unclear on the date.
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Do we know when the hiatus is ending? I seem to remember it being this month but I'm unclear on the date. 19 is scheduled for next wednesday
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Do we know when the hiatus is ending? I seem to remember it being this month but I'm unclear on the date.
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