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Classic Twisty posted:What's so great about California Nothing. It's one of the most stratified states, especially the cities people are lauding. LA, SF, SJ. They're all pretty bad if you take a look around and see how the bulk of the people there live especially in the first two. Despite this being a very liberal state(not really), there's prop 13 still in force, and the vast inequality across the board isn't seen as an issue. SF puts on a show at least and has health care for the city, but when you compare the splendor of the rich in SF to the poor who are getting pushed out of the city, it's ridiculous. LA is worse, but less compact. Another point: despite the state being so diverse, there's a lot of self-segregation and most people won't deal with certain demographic groups if they can avoid it. Pellisworth posted:You're doing a lot of handwaving here. Most large cities have significant poor/working poor populations, and yes LAUSD is pretty terrible but what of the higher education in the area? The community colleges are incredibly good and the big universities are world-class. Aerospace might be a declining industry, but there's a growing tech industry here too. I forget the name of the project, friend of mine that's in Marketing in Silicon Valley was telling me about how there's a lot of movement toward making Santa Monica a new Silicon Valley type area. Read more and saw this. The UCs don't matter except for people who are already more or less well off. You can just look at the demographics there and you'll see very little of the state's Latino/Black population at UCs compared to Asians and Whites. If LAUSD and other districts are not improved, this cycle of an Asian/White Uni student body that gets the good jobs after is going to continue indefinitely. Community colleges aren't equal across the board(Santa Monica College and Orange Coast College will beat out ELAC) and there have been huge cuts and there's been almost a doubling in per unit cost for them in LA since 2010. If the end goal of public higher education is to subsidize the costs of the upper mid/ middle class, then it's all gravy. Most people who would benefit the most from the big universities usually end up having a lot harder of a time getting access to them because they don't have equal K-12 education. Fetal Attraction fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Jun 29, 2013 |
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