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No Gravitas
Jun 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
I'd love to back this one, but I have some doubts.

  • "DRM-Free option will be available to backers" -- Smells like Shadowrun. Yuck.
  • This amount of money is not that great for the goals. If it gets funded in the first place.
  • Is there a megacorporate publisher hiding in the shadows?
  • One agent per class? So you cannot play a team of four hackers? Hope they explain this.
  • What is this business with the currency?
  • The title...

I know the reasons for the last two and they are valid. The first one is probably just my paranoia, since they mention GOG. Any of this just does not make me any more likely to back it.

After Shadowrun I'm super cautious with any Kickstarters... Thanks, Jordan.

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No Gravitas
Jun 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Rhandhali posted:

So what is it about the Shadowrun kickstarter that has made you wary?

The DRM thing. It is important to me and as far as I'm concerned it is a broken promise.

The delay did not help. The part where they gave some stuff exclusively to some magazine but not to backers did not help. The general lack of updates and transparency did not help. The feeling of the community not being listened to did not help. The voting process for choosing a second city was terribly hosed and that did not help. They did not even release the final vote counts for that. Berlin will be DLC and released later, which does not help. Tilesets will be DLC too and you have to buy the tileset if someone makes a scenario with it. It seems like they put a very heavy weight on DLC earning them money. You cannot make your own tilesets and that does not help either.

And finally... Last and least: The floating messages about "-20 damage" make no sense. -20 HP is good. 20 damage is good. -20 damage is WTF.

So this is why I'm reluctant to back SR. One bad experience was enough. Maybe I will take the plunge though. We shall see...

No Gravitas
Jun 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Darkhold posted:

New interview up

Well, they mention Deus Ex as inspiration. Heck, I'm almost sold. Almost.

No Gravitas
Jun 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Darkhold posted:

For the first time I'm actually concerned about the funding level. The kickstarter is half over and it's only at 65%. Even with the kickstarter being front and back loaded at this rate it will only barely scrape by.

At this point I'm starting to wonder if it would be better if it just slightly failed and they restarted the kickstarer with a more focused media pitch and tried to get it funded in USD so not to scare off all the people that don't like the GBP kickstarters.

Don't forget the end-of-project boost. It is huge. The last three days can do 20%.

Projects tend to either crash and burn by a mile or succeed by a hair. I think this will pass. I'm hoping for at least the first stretch goal, but I guess we will see.

Once they get almost-done funding they will open Paypal and maybe that will be in USD.

No Gravitas
Jun 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Theodyn posted:

I agree that playing so coy is hurting them massively.

List of screwups as of Jul 21st:
  • Bad currency.
  • Bad title.
  • Poor demo videos.
  • A whole update about Dengler? WTF?
  • Poor spelling in the AI update. Get a proofreader! (Yes, I'm being petty.)

List of good stuff as of Jul 21st:
  • Syndicate returns!
  • ...
  • Umm... The concept art is nice?
  • ...

In other words, nothing to charm me has happened yet. Tangiers has a share of problems with their kickstarter, but at least they released some gameplay videos. They still probably won't make it, but at least they did their best. SatReign feels like a botched effort to me.

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