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I feel sick. Like everybody else I sort of knew this would happen, but I still can't believe it.
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A lot of my family's pretty convinced their lives aren't valued in this country, and it's hard to say otherwise!Samurai Sanders posted:Is this going to embolden other neighborhood watch assholes like Zimmerman and cause even more black kids to get shot? They'll be emboldened, and also a lot of people are gonna get really smug about the justice system. It's already begun.
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Jul 14, 2013 05:29
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Watch Out Smarmy posted:A dude shot a dude. Neither of them were white. Why is this still a racial thing? Maybe cause a lot of dogwhistle crap was used to make Trayvon look like a threat.
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Jul 14, 2013 05:33
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Wario In Real Life posted:What a stupid way to look at this. I don't know, it's kind of stupid to pretend young black men aren't demonized on the regular.
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Jul 14, 2013 05:35
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SocketWrench posted:People shouting racism using racism to say he looks "close enough" You don't have to be white to be a racist, everyone busy pointing out how not-white Zimmerman is are just grasping at straws. Even I clung to that at first to try and make this whole thing a little less lovely.
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Jul 14, 2013 05:44
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:If Trayvon Martin was white George Zimmerman wouldn't have thought there was anything suspicious about some kid in a hoodie wandering around a neighborhood looking lost. Let's not get ahead of ourselves he had some loving skittles. Jersey Mike posted:Seriously? This is exactly the kind of bullshit I can't stand. Automatically assuming that crime is exclusive to notwhite people is loving bullshit. How do you know that? Oh wait, you don't. Nobody's saying that. The point is that young black men are automatically under a lot more suspicion than young white men, especially to overzealous neighborhood watch types.
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Jul 14, 2013 05:46
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SocketWrench posted:Gee, you'll have to explain the real world to all the white co workers where I am that are on work release. Seems they missed the notice. I guess if large amounts of black people just happen to be poorer and living in bad areas everything's fine. e. To be less pithy, class and race are too interconnected to be separated like that.
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Jul 14, 2013 06:01
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Twee as gently caress posted:Because he was apparently walking in the rain, looking like he was high and walking on the grass looking at houses that had been burgled in the recent past, according to Zimmerman. Was he supposed to control the weather or change his route after using esp to know which houses had been burgled? As for looking high, what does that mean even? SocketWrench posted:Do you have a breathing machine or something that keeps you alive to post bullshit like this? It's not like I made up intersectionality. You keep on fighting the good fight though, maybe someday we'll all realize this really wasn't a race issue and have a good laugh.
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Jul 14, 2013 06:15
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spunkshui posted:Why does he have a record of fights at school? Is this why Zimmerman started following him?
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Jul 14, 2013 06:19
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Twee as gently caress posted:At the end of the day, even if he was being followed by Zimmerman, Martin had no place assaulting him, as it seems every witnesses testified is what happened in the end. There's no 'even if' though, it's a fact he followed him, after being told not to. The assault's debatable, but if a hostile stranger with a gun was following you'd do whatever to not get shot, wouldn't you? I don't think it was planned murder, but it's certainly not justifiable self-defense.
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Jul 14, 2013 06:27
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Twee as gently caress posted:Just because you wish really hard for something to be a fact won't transform it into one: I didn't remember the exact words, my bad. I don't know why you'd think I was wishing for this to be true, though, if this was super justifiable it'd be a lot easier to hear about the verdict!
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Jul 14, 2013 06:43
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Marxalot posted:Neat, so that one time that I knocked the poo poo out of a guy who jumped me at school will be brought up against me if I ever get murdered. Try committing domestic assault or molesting people, apparently that's unrelated to your character.
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Jul 14, 2013 06:47
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SplitSoul posted:All the dogs in my neighbourhood are just going crazy barking and howling all of a sudden, some of the posts in this thread must somehow be audible across the Atlantic. I couldn't stomach watching the trial for long and got a lot of information from equally emotionally invested family members so I'm gonna duck the gently caress outta here before I'm reduced to yelling 'NO U' at a computer screen.
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Jul 14, 2013 07:20
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