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Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
It was a chilly 75 in the kitchen all day today. I think I broke out in a sweat at some point, probably when I put away the meat order. :smug:

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Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
We have a pastry position open. Clearly you should move to Austin, work 5a-1p, have insurance, PTO, etc, etc. and make ~12bux/hr.

Did I mention Austin?


Also, literally everyone at work is quitting. We have 6 positions open. Out of 20. Chef just told me to be prepared to be destroyed if we don't have anyone hired by the time we get back into the busy season, which is about 2 weeks away.

I am going to be destroyed.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
It really is nice to have a back of house person running front of house. Because most front of house people don't care about things dying in the window, and they'll blame everything on the cooks, etc.

Grats on the new job Wrought!(should have come work in my banquet sweatshop!)

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

bowmore posted:

I just realized I work in the industry.

How's that alcoholism coming along?

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

Willie Tomg posted:

I've been running through my lil' rolodex of people on the east side who would be a good fit/could maybe probably pass the background check and most of whose left get real real interested looking when I mention the compensation and bennies and then its like "oh btw you might have to wake up in the morning" and the look of horror and disgust on their faces my god

Mornings aren't even that bad. I've done plenty of holiday shifts where you work 7a to 8p, go out for drinks immediately after, stay out way too late, and be back at work at 6a the next day, still kinda drunk, or really hungover.

This is where it helps to know where room service keep the Red Bulls stashed.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

No Wave posted:

Instead, it's just about executing a series of discrete tasks as quickly and as effectively as possible while resetting your station back to its normal state. Cooking is just the execution of a series of tasks - you're not looking for new ways to do things, just to do things that you already know how to do.

Speak for yourself, half of my responsibilities are recipe and cost refinement. The actual prep -> cook -> serve is brainless work for the most part that I can manage hungover and on 3 hours of sleep. I need to be awake and alert before I can do my actual job around here.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

No Wave posted:

Right, sorry - I didn't mean it offensively or anything, I was just talking about cooking. All I meant was that cooks are pretty much better than anyone at getting poo poo done and that those skills of organization are actual skills that are applicable to other task-oriented professions.

Nah, it's fine. I just find issue with the line cook mentality. I'd like to think that that died a good 5-10 years ago. Now, more people are responsible for what they produce, and how they make it. Or maybe that's just what it's like where I work. ( Willie Tomg works here now too, and he can attest to this now!( Or maybe I'm too hungover at work everyday))

Splizwarf posted:

Integrated task scheduling and the ubiquitous on-the-fly adjustment might be my favorite part of each gig. It's definitely the most satisfying part.
I loving love this so hard. So. loving. Hard.
I love it as hard as I do this Knob Creek Rye. Okay, maybe not as much, but really close.

Chef De Cuisinart fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Jul 21, 2013

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
Waking up a little tipsy from last night and stumbling out the door to work is like one of my least favorite things.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

Turkeybone posted:

The joke around the kitchen was that I did my best work hungover; I think it was because I was always moving so as not to notice the room spinning.

I just generally try to keep moving so I don't fall asleep.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
I did that when I played WoW seriously. I had half the guild replying with 'heard' so I could guarantee they heard whatever I said.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
Always thicken with corn starch, you can be gluten free, and it doesn't scorch like flour.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

No Wave posted:

Do you mean "xanthan gum"?

I've had 3 people this year tell me they didn't want our cilantro oil that's thickened with xanthan because its derived from toxic mold. :downs:

As far as roux, yeah you can't toast corn starch like you can flour, but you could brown the butter you sauté your veg in.

I personally just don't do roux anymore because every other drat person I get an order from is 'gluten free' :downs:

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
You can use iota carrageenan to get that velveeta texture with other cheeses. Nothing wrong with using a little velveeta for texture though.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
Also, those coats go down to your wrists for a reason. They're heat guards and oil guard.


That said, us badasses roll them the gently caress up or wear short sleeves.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

mindphlux posted:


Making real soup without real stock, it's just pointless....


Sysco veggie base is awesome :shh:

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
Soaking and freezing the FoH management's ties is hilarious.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
It's totally E, going from personal experience.

e: supply me with Red Bull and you can do whatever the gently caress.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

Aesirstorm posted:

Speaking of people looking for jobs, how come I can't find any line cooks in Chicago?

You couldn't pay me enough to work in Chicago.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

Turkeybone posted:

What's wrong with Chicago? It seems like a great "2nd tier, if not 1st tier" food city?


I make more in Austin than I would in Chicago, the rent's cheaper, and Austin's food scene is growing.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
I put in my resume to be promoted to sous today. Here's hoping I beat out any outside apps!

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
Chef's having me run the night line this week, looks like I'm being tested for sous.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
Go for the hotel. You can slowly move away from most of the frozen food. When I started at my hotel, even some of the banquet food was out of the box. We make almost everything now, save for things like cheese and deli meats.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
I can do all of that here in Austin, and not be broke. Austin's a pretty good place to be in food right now. It's not NYC, but I like my paid vacation and corporate kitchen that lets me gently caress around and just decide to do some charcuterie because why not.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

Wroughtirony posted:

"this" is not where you are going to start. If you are lucky, in five years you will work for a chef who cares enough about the plates that go out of her kitchen that she'll yell at you like that. Most likely, you'll end up trying to "up the standards" at a failing gastropub who buys half their poo poo from Sysco and takes shortcuts on the other half. Get out while you can still finish your degree.

I started working for James Beard award winning chef, and I work at a reasonable high-end hotel now. It's not impossible, but if you don't know your basics, then yeah, you'll probably start at some shithole.

If you really want to get into this industry(don't), start in a hotel. You'll get some decent training, lots more leniency, and decent pay.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
Your tables seem so low.

Apparently I'm doing some kind of catering convention tonight, so I've got to make 250 crab tostadas when I get in later today.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
They were probably kosher meals. We have them on hand for banquets. If a group notifies us at least a day in advance, we can get a meal made by a kosher kitchen. Usually we don't and we have to give them SYSCO's finest frozen kosher meals.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
I had 2 pairs of Red Wings split horizontally on the bottom. I would say not worth the price. Crocs are treating me well atm.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

Liquid Communism posted:

And you didn't just take 'em over to the Redwing store and have them fixed? Those guys are serious about their warranty.

The 2nd pair that split were the replacement for the 1st. But the warranty wasn't reset for the 2nd pair, so when those split, they wouldn't replace them.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
Guys, I drink 2-3 Red Bulls daily, even when I'm off. WHAT. DO. I. DO!?

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
I don't do drugs, except for all these painkillers I have prescriptions for! :D

Also, I am currently top contender for restaurant sous :woop:

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
I'm already doing a great job running the restaurant line, just get this promotion going already. :argh:

I spent last night reworking all of the line's sauce recipes, because our previous sous decided that the only good sauces were demi reduced so far down that it was black and would probably set into jello before someone even finished their plate. Apple demi is gone, now it's carm apple bourbon glace. Pepper gravy now actually has cream in it!

I swear, it's like our previous restaurant sous literally never looked at the dinner menu.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

Aye-Aye posted:

Has anyone ever filled up their fryer with duck fat? Am I going to have to strain and throw it in the fridge every night? Can it last a full week?

Yes, Yes, HA.

Don't fill up your fryer with duck fat. Just don't.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

Aye-Aye posted:

What's the best way to do duck fat fries to order without setting of my anasul system?

Blanch in duck fat, finish in whatever your standard oil is.

Frying in duck fat can get stupid expensive. A jug of Mazola soy select is like 35bux. An equivalent amount of duck fat is around 120.

We do duck fat hollandaise and bicuits, but that's about it.

e: If you're totally set on doing duck fries, a tabletop fryer that is literally only for fries could last a week. Or if you have 4 fryers like I do, you could wing it, but there's still the cost issue.

Chef De Cuisinart fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Aug 29, 2013

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

Aye-Aye posted:

I can get a gallon of duck fat for about 51 bucks from Hudson valley off amazon. While that's very expensive I think I'm going to sell a lot of those fries.

I think the smoking point on it is 370 if I aim for 330 I should be alright.

A Wolf brand fryer takes 7 gallons of oil to fill. That's 350 bux, a week, if you have a duck fat fries only fryer. The second anything with flour or corn meal goes in there, your fat is going to degrade quickly.

Better find a way to charge ~10-12bux for an order of fries.

e2: Don't buy duck fat through amazon, don't you have access to a commercial supplier? I can get it through Ben E. Keith for 30/gal.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.


Had some bone in prime filets leftover from a banquet, so I ran a special. Smoked cream corn, broccolini, and apple bourbon glacé.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
So many jäger bombs.

Last December we had a holiday party, kitchen staff goes out and gets shots of Wild Turkey 101 and comes back significantly tipsier. I like to think we were the life of that party.

Chef De Cuisinart fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Sep 3, 2013

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

infiniteguest posted:

Who wrapped that third pan?

The more I look at this picture the more disturbed I am.

We keep the linguini wrapped until there's an order, since it's hardly ever ordered.

As for everything else, that used to be a steam well that we fill with ice 3 times a day because this place is too drat cheap to just put in a fridge =/

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
We turn 4-5mil profit a year, we can afford a new line. They just don't want to close the restaurant for a week.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

Liquid Communism posted:

You know, at that level of profit, I'd be hard pressed to close the place for a week too, until something major like a new hood needed to go in.

Most of that comes from banquets, the restaurant has a line to itself, and there's a deadline we could use in theory for a week or so, and another kitchen upstairs that hasn't been used in at least a decade. I honestly have no idea why this place has 5 kitchens total, with only 350 rooms and banquet space for 1500.

But the restaurant makes something like 400k a year, we can easily take a 10-15k hit on a slow week for some upgrades, which could come out of capital.

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Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

Turkeybone posted:

Yeah, why don't the cooks offer to take a pay cut this year to pay for it? Profit or not, it's always like squeezing blood from a stone sometimes.

At my last restaurant, well, we were a Belgian beer place. Diverse crowd, lots of college folk. Everyone orders fries. Fries and mayo. Steak frites was huge.. more fries. I would wager we sold at least 1,000 pounds a week. So, what was the backbone of this fry empire for more than 5 years? Two dinky loving tabletop fryers. Professional, but tabletop. Both could be filled with one standard fry-oil jug-in-box. One of them was particularly finnicky -- really had minimal heat control, pilot always went out (during service), a couple strange fires, bitches to clean, etc. And like no loving capacity. The grill could would have to spend most of his day blanching fries for service, it was a constant task in addition to everything else.

Well finally, FINALLY, by the grace of God or Dr. Fryvorkian, one of those fuckers finally bubbled its last bubble. Then after about two weeks of EVEN WORSE fry life (only one fryer and getting a pot of oil for blanching), they finally arrvied: the wonder twins. Two 3.5' tall fryers, not these dinky 18" things we had before. They had proper oil reservoirs, big loving baskets, and a lot of power.

Fries instantly went from the biggest pain in the rear end, scream induced, brick-making GBS threads, bottlenecking task in the whole kitchen, to really no big loving deal at all. Capacity quadrupled. We were some comfortable with our fry throughput now, we would even have other fried foods and such on the menu, which we never had before! Oysters, clams; the potato crusted cod that always was a pain to pan fry on the saute station became a cinch for the grill guy -- and the fish came out more beautiful and delicious than ever.

So why didn't we do that poo poo in the first place? Even though we were profitable? And fries were such a lynchpin and equally such a bottleneck?

Perhaps it was :effort:, or maybe :shrug:. But really I think it was pride from the one owner who was also the brewmaster and resident handyman. He was a great guy, just really intense while working. I respect him totally, and understand the reasons for his ire, because he never had much time to give, so if he had to waste it on "stupid poo poo" like something we broke or THAT MOTHERFUCKING FRYER AGAIN???, he let everyone know. I mean, he must've changed that thermostat 20 times. But he'd still rather fix it than by new ones.

We wouldn't actually have to close the restaurant. There's an entire unused line that has 12 burners, 2 ovens, a grill, and a flat top. Which is ironically better designed than the current line because the fryers are actually on it, and not a 5sec walk away from grill/sauté. I'd use that dead line in a heartbeat if it actually had room for cold prep.

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