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Z3n posted:You know what's tedious? Your walls of have-to-get-the-last-loving-word-in text are up there with watching paint dry.
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I love everyone's posts 
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Oct 6, 2013 23:23
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Motorcyclists are terrible.
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Oct 6, 2013 23:25
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I'm pretty awesome, theory destroyed
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Oct 6, 2013 23:26
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:I'm pretty awesome, theory destroyed Exception that proves the rule boom
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Oct 6, 2013 23:28
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Oct 6, 2013 23:31
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I'm #90 but #1 in your hearts, right guys. This conversation reminded me that this poo poo never happens to me. I've been riding for over 14+ years and I've never had anyone try to purposefully run me off the road, well maybe I have and just don't remember but it seems to be a daily occurrence with some riders. I've never crashed cause of gravel in a corner, or oil or diesel (which I know is euro problem). I'm not accosted by stories of uncle's neighbor's brother dying at 200mph when people find out I ride a motorcycle. I mean I've heard those stories but not enough that they're any sort of problem. People don't merge into me all day long, I don't know I'm sort of statistical mutant. *edit, just remembered I crashed n8r's bike cause of gravel, but that was a gravel road not a few rocks in the road.
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Oct 7, 2013 01:35
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When I moved to TX I retook Harley's Rider's Edge MSF program, partly just for a refresher but mostly to skip the DMV's driving test. There was a guy there who apparently had just bought a new Harley a week before the class, and had been riding it all over town unlicensed all week. At every opportunity, he had to go on about idiot drivers who never see motorcyclists and were always merging onto him and running him off the road and whatnot. It sounded like it was a daily occurrence for him on his new hog. Meanwhile, I've ridden several tens of thousands of miles over the past 10 years and only remember being merged onto one time, at an insanely complicated highway merge juncture during rush hour. I'm not trying to be  about it, but I just wonder what the balance of blame really is with some riders.(Now watch me get merged onto off a bridge during tomorrow's commute.  )
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Oct 7, 2013 01:46
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Z3n posted:The reason I said that is because you said this: What I mean is that I'm trying to maintain a good distance from the car in front of me, not the car I'm going to end up in the blind spot of when passing/being passed. I never considering myself safe from other vehicles unless there isn't anyone anywhere near me. As much as we here on CA act like we're the bee's knees when it comes to riding protection and safety, the fact of the matter is that there's a lot of poo poo going on when you're flying down a freeway at 60+ mph with other vehicles travelling at varying speeds and changing lanes, a large amount of which aren't paying attention to what's going on with their vehicle, let alone around them. BEEP BOOP logic is great in hindsight.
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Oct 7, 2013 02:20
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HNasty posted:I'm #90 but #1 in your hearts, right guys. This conversation reminded me that this poo poo never happens to me. I've been riding for over 14+ years and I've never had anyone try to purposefully run me off the road, well maybe I have and just don't remember but it seems to be a daily occurrence with some riders. I've never crashed cause of gravel in a corner, or oil or diesel (which I know is euro problem). I'm not accosted by stories of uncle's neighbor's brother dying at 200mph when people find out I ride a motorcycle. I mean I've heard those stories but not enough that they're any sort of problem. People don't merge into me all day long, I don't know I'm sort of statistical mutant.
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Oct 7, 2013 03:22
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I don't get merged into much, but I get people pulling out in front of me from cross roads all the time. It's how I learned to pull high speed endos on the drz. I don't know what it is, but for some reason people just can't see my bright yellow supermoto from a 90 degree angle
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Oct 7, 2013 03:47
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Pope Mobile posted:What I mean is that I'm trying to maintain a good distance from the car in front of me, not the car I'm going to end up in the blind spot of when passing/being passed. I never considering myself safe from other vehicles unless there isn't anyone anywhere near me. The whole point of bringing up this "beep boop" logic is so that you can apply it in the future. The fact that there's a lot going on is exactly why you should be thinking about it during times you're not actually riding the bike. And it's why you have people merging into you all the time, and yet there's a bunch of other riders here saying it happens to them very rarely. You're not unlucky, you're just not planning or paying enough attention yourself. And that's why I started this "tedious" conversation in the first place, so hopefully you'd wake up and realize what the gently caress is going on here.
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Oct 7, 2013 03:51
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Yeah same. I figured it was because I live in a nice place with no people around so nothing happens here. Someone did kinda merge into me once in Utah, but I hit the brakes and tooted my horn and was never in any real danger. I have however met a number of people who've stated they had to lay it down, for carefully weighed safety reasons, calculated in their head over the course of 200 milliseconds in a panic stop. Right behind the layer dan story is the, I hit gravel bru excuse for crashing. I swear this magical gravel that takes people out must account for 50% of crash stories I've heard.
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Oct 7, 2013 04:00
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HNasty posted:Right behind the layer dan story is the, I hit gravel bru excuse for crashing. I swear this magical gravel that takes people out must account for 50% of crash stories I've heard. It's super easy to crash on gravel, all you have to do is see it, freak out, grab a handful of brake, and it doesn't matter if you were on gravel or not!
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Oct 7, 2013 04:02
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Z3n posted:The whole point of bringing up this "beep boop" logic is so that you can apply it in the future. The fact that there's a lot going on is exactly why you should be thinking about it during times you're not actually riding the bike. And it's why you have people merging into you all the time, and yet there's a bunch of other riders here saying it happens to them very rarely. You're not unlucky, you're just not planning or paying enough attention yourself. And that's why I started this "tedious" conversation in the first place, so hopefully you'd wake up and realize what the gently caress is going on here. You're acting like I'm riding around sitting in blind spots. I've had a rash of people almost merge into me this week while I was passing them or they were passing me, and wanted to rant about it in the padded room. If I wanted a lecture, I've had gone to a different thread.
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Oct 7, 2013 04:43
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I'll be sure to let it pass when you rant about it again then. 
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Oct 7, 2013 05:54
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Z3n posted:It's super easy to crash on gravel, all you have to do is see it, freak out, grab a handful of brake, and it doesn't matter if you were on gravel or not! Or not see it, because it's night and there's no lights in the parking lot, and it looks like the asphalt it's sitting on top of under your headlight. Though that was less a crash and more a fall over.
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Oct 7, 2013 07:43
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Z3n posted:It's super easy to crash on gravel, all you have to do is see it, freak out, grab a handful of brake, and it doesn't matter if you were on gravel or not! Or turn the bars and crack the throttle full open from at a dead stop on a 65 HP supermoto, right buddy?
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Oct 7, 2013 16:21
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Spiffness posted:Or turn the bars and crack the throttle full open from at a dead stop on a 65 HP supermoto, right buddy? Please dont post my patented parallel parking secrets
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Oct 7, 2013 17:22
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Please dont post my patented parallel parking secrets Yeah let's go with I was trying to parallel park. I like that.
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Oct 7, 2013 19:04
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Parallel with the curvature of the earth
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Oct 7, 2013 19:11
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Spiffness posted:Parallel with the curvature of the earth Just trying to figure out how much traction is REALLY available.
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Oct 7, 2013 19:19
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Cyclists not knowing how to filter. Motherfucker you're smaller than me, how can you be stupid enough to do two lanes worth of weaving, and where do you get off looking at me like I'm the dick for telling you to pick a loving lane? Also if one more starts filtering up the inside I'm just gonna start doling out happyslaps for youtube.* *This does not apply to your average fella on a bike in jeans, jacket, and cheap and cheerful grey helmet, but the messenger boy and full-body-condom Armstrong wannabes on their way to their cubicles. Z3n posted:I'll be sure to let it pass when you rant about it again then. Your desperation to get the last word in every time, like a 16 year-old on a work night out, is pathetic.
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Oct 7, 2013 20:22
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Wootcannon posted:Your desperation to get the last word in every time, like a 16 year-old on a work night out, is pathetic. Everyone else seems to take my posting so much more seriously than I do. 
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Oct 7, 2013 20:56
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I take all posting seriously all the time, I'm what makes CA great!
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Oct 7, 2013 21:48
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Z3n posted:Everyone else seems to take my posting so much more seriously than I do. Pulling the "  well I never cared in the first place" routine in an argument because people are calling you on your bullshit is real dumb.
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Oct 7, 2013 22:31
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He's right though about people taking his posting (whether quantity or quality) very seriously here for some reason and as annoyed as people get with it, its just as annoying to hear(see, I guess) them complain about it. C.A. isnt the fastest moving forum out there, I never understood the complaint of "you post too much" in a forum that sees only a handful of posts every day.
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Oct 7, 2013 22:32
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Wootcannon posted:Your desperation to get the last word in every time, like a 16 year-old on a work night out, is pathetic.
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Oct 7, 2013 22:38
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:He's right though about people taking his posting (whether quantity or quality) very seriously here for some reason and as annoyed as people get with it, its just as annoying to hear(see, I guess) them complain about it. Well you see, all the posts I make also mean that no one else can post anything because there are only so many posts the internet can handle before all the tubes get full. Clevermuldoon posted:Pulling the "  Is it the part about "being aware of the other drivers and minimizing not just time in blind spots but also when you choose to enter those blind spots"? Or the bit about "experienced riders seem to get merged into less because they make better decisions based on their beep boop riding logic"? You're the only hope for an end to the bullshit of cycle asylum, true internet patriot! Do your duty!
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Oct 7, 2013 22:43
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I'm absolutely insufferable as a human being in real life so I can't afford to lose the neutral-distant friendship that exists in my mind I call the Internet.
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Oct 7, 2013 22:43
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HNasty posted:I'm #90 but #1 in your hearts, right guys. This conversation reminded me that this poo poo never happens to me. I've been riding for over 14+ years and I've never had anyone try to purposefully run me off the road, well maybe I have and just don't remember but it seems to be a daily occurrence with some riders. I've never crashed cause of gravel in a corner, or oil or diesel (which I know is euro problem). I'm not accosted by stories of uncle's neighbor's brother dying at 200mph when people find out I ride a motorcycle. I mean I've heard those stories but not enough that they're any sort of problem. People don't merge into me all day long, I don't know I'm sort of statistical mutant. I've mentioned this as well - riding for years, no real close calls with traffic or dopey crashes to speak of. The response here: "Do you putt around on side streets or something? No close calls in 6 years? That's drat near impossible, especially if you do any sort of track or canyon riding." Actually, I pay attention. I see cars do dumb stuff - a lot - but I don't put myself in the path of stupid. I'd like to contribute to this thread by offering my sentiments on chip seal as well: GARBAGE. At least they put up signs in my area, but I still have some tar-embedded gravel stuck to my engine case and rear wheel from about 50 miles of the stuff between Cut Bank and Browning Montana. Seems like they try to put the stuff on the best roads, precisely when I want to have a good ride.
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Oct 7, 2013 23:22
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I drove by a road once that, as I passed it, looked like it could have potential. I looked it up later on Google Maps and from the aerial view, it looked like a pretty nice road to ride on, blacktop with good turns and it even happened to be a shortcut on a route I take sometimes. When I finally went that way again with the intention of riding it, I immediately discovered that the whole thing was shoddy chip seal. After 3 or 4 harrowing turns, I just gave up and turned back and left. Edit: If I wanted to turn that into a rant, it would morph into some Abe Simpson  about the conditions of the roads here in San Antonio. It seems like every potentially decent road is rotted and falling apart, with random potholes, tar snakes, uneven patches, etc. in the middle of turns and everywhere else. I took a trip to Oregon recently and it was like a revelation how well maintained and smooth most of the asphalt was.
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Oct 7, 2013 23:33
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clutchpuck posted:I'd like to contribute to this thread by offering my sentiments on chip seal as well: GARBAGE. At least they put up signs in my area, but I still have some tar-embedded gravel stuck to my engine case and rear wheel from about 50 miles of the stuff between Cut Bank and Browning Montana. Seems like they try to put the stuff on the best roads, precisely when I want to have a good ride. Think it was last fall I went to spend a day in the mountains and hit the Cherohala skyway towards the end of the day. North Carolina side was great with no traffic, nice clean road and perfect weather. Crossed the border into Tennessee and it was covered in crappy chip seal. Wasn't too bad so I kept going at a more leisurely pace until I get to one of my favorite corners the downhill, decreasing radius corner. First quarter was good then it turned to deep chip seal which just makes the bike skate around...felt like my tires were completely flat. Should have done a sighting run first I guess but I managed to not crash and ride the rest of the route. Chip Seal 
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clutchpuck posted:I've mentioned this as well - riding for years, no real close calls with traffic or dopey crashes to speak of. The response here: "Do you putt around on side streets or something? No close calls in 6 years? That's drat near impossible, especially if you do any sort of track or canyon riding." Actually, I pay attention. I see cars do dumb stuff - a lot - but I don't put myself in the path of stupid. Yeah I'm not particularly safe rider, I've had plenty of crashes and accidents. I even hit a car head on doing about 60, it's just that I haven't had the same problems that most bikers do. At worst car drivers are stupid, once you accept that it's really hard to get mad at them for being stupid. When I do have a close call it's usually when I'm doing over the speed limit or something else equally stupid, hard to get mad at the other guy for that. I'm not saying there are no shitbird car drivers out there, I'm just saying lots of bikers just love to complain and play the victim.
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Oct 7, 2013 23:45
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I get around one or two old farts that do left turns right in front of me every season, but that's about it. It's rare enough that I never remember where the horn is when it does.
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Oct 8, 2013 01:42
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Nidhg00670000 posted:I get around one or two old farts that do left turns right in front of me every season, but that's about it. It's rare enough that I never remember where the horn is when it does. Heh. A couple days ago, some people failed to maintain their lane, and as they came over the line, I was furiously cancelling my turn signals at them until I remembered the OTHER button down there. I've also hit the starter before. Funny thing about that is after I made my turn a block later, I hit the horn trying to cancel my turn signals and some people in a parking lot gave me a confused look.
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:Heh. A couple days ago, some people failed to maintain their lane, and as they came over the line, I was furiously cancelling my turn signals at them until I remembered the OTHER button down there. I've also hit the starter before. I hate it when I do that as I pass someone. OK, gonna pass him.. Signal on to change laneMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP.
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On the few occasions that I've wanted to hit the horn I've poked around with my thumb, gotten frustrated and actually looked down to see where the hell the stupid button is. Unfortunately after 30 years of sitting right on top of the engine my horns make a barely audible beep and more vibrate the bike a little. I'd get new ones but I poke at them twice a year at most so whatever.
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Oct 8, 2013 02:29
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I've always found Z3n's posting worthwhile. Riding doesn't really afford excuses. The same way that I pretend I'm invisible to every car on the road, I pretend that accidents/near misses are always my fault, and I learn to take appropriate action for the future to prevent/minimize risk, or else I probably won't end up alive to do anything about it next time. That counts for if I take a turn too fast and I'm stiff-arming the handles or if an rear end in a top hat in a car is actively trying to push me off the road because he's drunk at 2 am. I can get pissed at people for doing poo poo that's unsafe around me, or whatever, but even if something's not at all my fault, it effects me in the largest of ways. I'd rather have people constantly forcing me to think critically by saying "what else could you have done to prevent that," than people just accepting that something happened and moving on. Sometimes I do want to rant about other people and lovely things, but it's always because I'm scared of what might've happened. The only way to be less scared is to think through and prevent similar (or wildly different) circumstances from occurring in the future. So Z3n may get repetitive, but I've only seen him do it (note: I have not seen every post he's made) in the name of safety. also: gently caress people who edge their car up to the side of the lane on purpose to keep me from lane splitting. Drifter fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Oct 8, 2013 |
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:Heh. A couple days ago, some people failed to maintain their lane, and as they came over the line, I was furiously cancelling my turn signals at them until I remembered the OTHER button down there. I've also hit the starter before. As someone who hasn't started riding yet, but will hopefully have their bike in the next three months, would it be possible to throw a much louder horn on the bike? I was thinking it would be pretty sick if I could get a semi's horn on somehow... Drifter posted:I've always found Z3n's posting worthwhile. Riding doesn't really afford excuses. The same way that I pretend I'm invisible to every car on the road, I pretend that accidents/near misses are always my fault, and I learn to take appropriate action for the future to prevent/minimize risk, or else I probably won't end up alive to do anything about it next time. That counts for if I take a turn too fast and I'm stiff-arming the handles or if an rear end in a top hat in a car is actively trying to push me off the road because he's drunk at 2 am. I've appreciated Z3n's posting as well. Obviously I know gently caress all about what I'm doing, but I find it very informative and believe I have learned a lot from his thoughts.
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