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I think the main thing with the nanites that differs them from the bugs is that they're a) not antagonistic by default, and b) not united by any sense. That's not even going into the weird hybrid poo poo that was hinted at in the book with an adept not only finding a way to communicate with their own virus but outright merge their personalities. I mean, it's the same as the bugs in the sense of "that dude isn't the dude you think he is" and "LOL BOSTON," but the bugs were a malevolent invasion that required magical ritual to implant and were pushed onto the poor through a creepy cult, whereas the nanites are an amoral infection that can hit anyone. I think it's different enough to do some new cool stuff with. Boo on bringing back Deus though.
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Well, you know how much nerds love their callbacks and shoutouts.
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May 7, 2015 05:13
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Now we just need Harlequin to hand the mission to the PCs.
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May 7, 2015 05:19
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ProfessorCirno posted:I think the main thing with the nanites that differs them from the bugs is that they're a) not antagonistic by default, and b) not united by any sense. That's not even going into the weird hybrid poo poo that was hinted at in the book with an adept not only finding a way to communicate with their own virus but outright merge their personalities. The nanites still require a malevolent AI personality to actually cause Headcrash, and are effectively identical. Insect Spirit Queen + workers = AI + headcrash victims, with the Bug Shaman and Dissonant Technomancer standing in as the relatively normal hand driving the expansion of either. It's getting silly.
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May 7, 2015 08:32
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Last I checked it seemed that you had to buy the full SR Chronicles: Boston Lockdown game to be able to purchase the PDF. Did they change that?
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May 7, 2015 14:51
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As far as I know it's still only DLC for Shadowrun Chronicles.
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May 7, 2015 14:54
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Cool, thanks. I've been back and forth about picking up Chronicles. I may just wait for a bit, and see if the book goes up on DTRPG.
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Liquid Communism posted:The nanites still require a malevolent AI personality to actually cause Headcrash, and are effectively identical. Insect Spirit Queen + workers = AI + headcrash victims, with the Bug Shaman and Dissonant Technomancer standing in as the relatively normal hand driving the expansion of either. It's getting silly. I mean like I said the Deus thing is real dumb, but at least last I checked, the virus isn't taking orders from the AI, nor is it spread by the AI at this point. The way the infection works is that one (or more, or WAY more) personalities are inside the nanites that infect you; on infection they slowly rewrite your brain to take over, though it doesn't work on HMHVV. Sometimes weird poo poo happens, like the host finding a way to communicate with the virus and instead merging their personalities together. Other times the multiple personalities start to fight with each other and poo poo gets bad fast. But the point is that each individual infected is different because they're not a hivemind. Likewise the actual infection isn't done at the behest of a central figure - once the virus was unleashed it simply began to spread on it's own. The bugs needed to implant the bug spirit in you personally. ...Now, if that's changed then a major boo on them. But if it hasn't, that's absolutely different.
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May 7, 2015 21:15
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From the new stuff in Lockdown the virus (at least the Boston variant) is the result of the nanites each having varying proportions of the consciousness of the two warring AIs, Deus and Cerebus, so yeah. 
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May 8, 2015 02:00
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Deus has to feel like such a loving chump, is there a single AI at full strength he HAS been able to beat?
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May 8, 2015 02:31
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looking at run and gun and Universal Mirror Material seems pretty...good. Take forearm guards (or really any light armour), YNT softweave, rating 6 UMM and then put your comlink in, never worry about hackers again? Or is there something there that bites you in the arse, like it turns out you can't transmit out either?
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May 13, 2015 06:41
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thatbastardken posted:looking at run and gun and Universal Mirror Material seems pretty...good. Take forearm guards (or really any light armour), YNT softweave, rating 6 UMM and then put your comlink in, never worry about hackers again? Or is there something there that bites you in the arse, like it turns out you can't transmit out either? It doesn't matter either way, because hackers have no teeth against individuals. They are nothing to fear.
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see I don't bother reading the hacking rules, so they stay a scary mystery to me.
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thatbastardken posted:see I don't bother reading the hacking rules, so they stay a scary mystery to me. Hackers are a threat to institutions and organizations, but not to individuals in a combat scenario. In the time it would take a hacker to do serious harm to you by hacking, you will have pumped no less than two dozen bullets into his frail, goony body. E: I mean, unless the hacker is played how I play hackers, which is surrounded with drones dropping suppression fire everywhere, but they're still not loving with your PAN. Solid Poopsnake fucked around with this message at 07:51 on May 13, 2015 |
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I'm glad the custom lifestyle rules came out in run faster so I can finally craft my hellhole lair with excellent internet access. Ed: also, is there rules for living in a vehicle. I just need to know if living in your van counts for the purposes of the squatter rule in the Hobo with Shotgun quality. Ronwayne fucked around with this message at 09:00 on May 13, 2015 |
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May 13, 2015 07:52
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Ronwayne posted:I'm glad the custom lifestyle rules came out in run faster so I can finally craft my hellhole lair with excellent internet access. There's a "traveller" lifestyle, which I think is a better fit.
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Well, I read Run Faster to look that up and while scrolling through it I did a thing I had long since swore I would never do again. I read the opening chapter fiction. Exalted alone should've broken me of that habit, but low and behold there's this wonderful gem (apologies if this has already been posted.) quote:Included with the chair was an aftermarket Senpaitek Kangofu medkit with vitals monitoring and a self-changing IV abilities, the best friend a decker or technomancer could have when delving deep into the Matrix and beyond for days at a time.    It goes on and on about her discovering erotic fanfic written about herself making out with a toaster and just all the ways you can be an even worse goon in the future.
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May 15, 2015 13:24
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Poopsocking...has evolved.
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May 15, 2015 15:11
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Hacking the gibson and flying through the dystopian cyberfuture with a spout in my peehole.
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May 15, 2015 15:36
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I guess it beats suspending yourself over a bucket. Honestly though, what's so distasteful about it? Someone going deep online for long period of time is pretty common in the fiction of the genre and you gotta do something with the waste.
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That opening fiction is actually one big weird referential joke to something from various Shadowrun forums and nobody is actually sure how it got started. It started as one of the Shadowrun writers making about about their own fiction, and how he was gonna have one of the in-setting characters write Netcat slashfic with a toaster as a joke. Then Bull jokingly stated he could go ahead and do it if they could get enough people to promise to buy it, and it somehow snowballed from there.
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May 15, 2015 21:41
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"Dare you enter my technomantic realm?" Isn't there a symbiont or bioeare for this sort of thing?
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QuantumNinja posted:I made some character sheets for my group. They're still a little rough in places, but way less gradient-ugly than the ones linked there. (Feedback is welcome.) This is a really nice sheet, I think. I'm sort of document dumb, but is there a way to make it so I can type on it instead of write on it?
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Swags posted:This is a really nice sheet, I think. I'm sort of document dumb, but is there a way to make it so I can type on it instead of write on it? It's possible, but I'd have to modify the LaTeX for it. I'm willing to post the code for the document if you want to do it.
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Swags posted:This is a really nice sheet, I think. I'm sort of document dumb, but is there a way to make it so I can type on it instead of write on it? Why not just use chummer5a if you're typing anyway? Edit: not that the char sheet isn't cool looking 
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May 19, 2015 05:06
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IntelligibleChoir posted:Why not just use chummer5a if you're typing anyway? Because I hate Chummer and the sheets it prints are lovely.
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Adepts can get any sense available from cyberware (other than those which provide a dice bonus to perception or require wireless) with the Improved Sense power. Ultrasound is available as a piece of cyberware, treated as the sensor with a maximum rating of 6. So far so good - the rating doesn't affect a dice pool, it gives you a limit when using that sensor. But does an adept need to buy Improved Sense: Ultrasound six times to get the maximum rating? It's not exactly a cheap piece of ware at 12,000Y/rating.
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thatbastardken posted:Adepts can get any sense available from cyberware (other than those which provide a dice bonus to perception or require wireless) with the Improved Sense power. Per HeroLab it's a one-time 0.25 PP expense to get the Improved Sense: Ultrasound Sensor power. EDIT: I'd imagine the limit would become your Mental limit, since that governs Perception.
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Doc Dee posted:Per HeroLab it's a one-time 0.25 PP expense to get the Improved Sense: Ultrasound Sensor power. That makes sense.
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May 21, 2015 04:09
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Limit for magical things is typically Magic isn't it?
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Swags posted:Limit for magical things is typically Magic isn't it? That would make sense.
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May 21, 2015 16:00
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Is there any character generator with a Sum to Ten way of generating? I don't think HeroLab has that yet, or if it does I can't find it.
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Swags posted:Is there any character generator with a Sum to Ten way of generating? I don't think HeroLab has that yet, or if it does I can't find it. Chummer 5e can do it!
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May 22, 2015 03:34
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Sum to 10 is already in there? Did they add the Infected? Or Lifepaths yet?
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ProfessorCirno posted:Chummer 5e can do it! I just downloaded/installed Chummer again and it's not in there.
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May 22, 2015 06:57
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This one? Should be the first thing you do on making a character, choosing what sorta chargen to use. It's possible you're using an older version; the guy making up ended up vanishing, so a new crew took over.
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I hope they eventually get the alternative generation rules so we can use the life choice system that I forget the name of. I love the idea of it, but gently caress doing shadowrun chargen without chummer
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Swags posted:Is there any character generator with a Sum to Ten way of generating? I don't think HeroLab has that yet, or if it does I can't find it. Hero Lab does it, but IIRC you have to buy their Run Faster pack to be able to use any of the alt creation methods. Since it costs almost as much as the -book-, screw that.
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Liquid Communism posted:Hero Lab does it, but IIRC you have to buy their Run Faster pack to be able to use any of the alt creation methods. I'm pretty sure this is wrong since I have the Run Faster module and can't build them that way. Edit: Actually just checked the site. They have the races and qualities right now, but not the char gen methods yet. They'll be coming along later. Also, it's only ten bucks. It's far cheaper than the book.
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Also, anyone who doesn't have Shadowrun Returns, you can buy it on Steam right now for 3 bucks.
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