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Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
I want the right to augmented bear arms.

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Poil
Mar 17, 2007

I finally have an almost finished character I want to play and feel a little bit confident about that it could actually work, and now there's a chance the group will switch to another system before I even get to play it once. Figures. :sigh:

Poil fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Jan 18, 2016

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.
:stare:

quote:

"For those who aren't aware, criminal gangs, freelancers and corporate security battle it out hundreds of meters underground for control of the mines. The state really plays no part - very rarely a few state security forces show up to remind people that yes, they do exist, but they don't go down into the shafts where the battles rage."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34589143

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

Poil posted:

I finally have an almost finished character I want to play and feel a little bit confident about that it could actually work, and now there's a chance the group will switch to another system before I even get to play it once. Figures. :sigh:

Toss it on shadownet

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

I love living in our dystopian future.

(Read the quoteblock before seeing the link and assumed you were quoting a cool extract from a sourcebook or something)

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
All we got from the story of Shadowrun was lovely megacorporations buying and selling governments and all the big data violations of privacy. gently caress that I want my dragon president and DNI matrix.

Throwing Turtles
May 3, 2015
Are there any good rules for handling crowds and panicked mobs? Specifically things like being trampled, swept away with a group, that sort of thing.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
I think there's horde rules somewhere, with trampling I'd maybe do like unarmed attack a few times? and with being swept away I'd say agility and reaction, with bonuses if they have a martial art that would help.

Aesculus
Mar 22, 2013

Why does the free-fall skill exist and why does it have 5 specializations if there are no parachutes or wingsuits or anything that really go with it in the actual game as items? I am kind of wanting to do a sort of character that uses that with flying drones to get easy access to locations and it makes me sad that I cannot do so because it's only half implemented.

Aesculus fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Jan 26, 2016

ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

The strongest! The smartest!
The rightest!
Simulationism is a disease.

Tias
May 25, 2008

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Liquid Communism posted:

Some people are batshit crazy.

I've heard good things about doing SR in FATE, but haven't played it myself so can't really judge.

Fate takes away the one thing some grogs really love about SR, the gear porn. Unless you convert it all as permanent aspects or something, and that makes little sense.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Aesculus posted:

Why does the free-fall skill exist and why does it have 5 specializations if there are no parachutes or wingsuits or anything that really go with it in the actual game as items? I am kind of wanting to do a sort of character that uses that with flying drones to get easy access to locations and it makes me sad that I cannot do so because it's only half implemented.

Imagine a wingsuit. Picture it in your mind. Got it? Congrats it's in your SR game. It costs 5000 nuyen, is black and it has red trim. Now go do your freefall checks. Your GM will be fine with this.

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.
Not on shadownet they're not, sadly. If you wanna league game you're stuck with the glories of RAW.

Tias posted:

Fate takes away the one thing some grogs really love about SR, the gear porn. Unless you convert it all as permanent aspects or something, and that makes little sense.

Atomic Robo sorta does it but you could only do it for major pieces like wired reflexes. An entire subsystem for buying a thermographic lens for your backup underwater basket weaving kit less so.

Ronwayne fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Jan 27, 2016

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



I remember reading that the 5e core rule book had binding issues. Is that still the case?

ManlyGrunting
May 29, 2014
Hey, I sort of need some help here. I'm a complete and utter newbie to this, but for a class on game development I have to create a character in this (5th edition) and I have absolutely no goddamn clue what I'm doing, everything might as well be written in Latin. Ideally I would like to create the Demi-Fiend from Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne and punch things in the dick to death and hurl off energy beams and such, but I understand that might not be feasible. I know it's kind of a dick move to ask but it's for a class and I have no goddamn idea what I'm doing here. :shobon:

e: I have a pdf of the book and quick-start rules. I just have to create a character for now though and it's a lot of stuff to go through.

ManlyGrunting fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Feb 3, 2016

Mendrian
Jan 6, 2013

ManlyGrunting posted:

Hey, I sort of need some help here. I'm a complete and utter newbie to this, but for a class on game development I have to create a character in this (5th edition) and I have absolutely no goddamn clue what I'm doing, everything might as well be written in Latin. Ideally I would like to create the Demi-Fiend from Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne and punch things in the dick to death and hurl off energy beams and such, but I understand that might not be feasible. I know it's kind of a dick move to ask but it's for a class and I have no goddamn idea what I'm doing here. :shobon:

Well I suppose the first question is, do you have the book or are you working from some kind of cheatsheet?

ManlyGrunting
May 29, 2014
I also had a classmate forward me something called Hero Lab that seems to streamline things a bit, so that helps.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
I hope the purpose of this exercise is a cautionary tale about book layout

ManlyGrunting
May 29, 2014

Azhais posted:

I hope the purpose of this exercise is a cautionary tale about book layout

My class very much appreciated that, thank you.

By the looks of things I think I'm going to be a human mystic adept, the idea is that I'm buff with magic but also can cast spells, which sounds pretty demi-fiendish. How should my stats look?

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Hero lab will not save you.

Dehumanize yourself and face to sourcebook.

(Seriously, you need to read the stupid thing to get the context for why you would make mechanical choices in chargen.)

ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

The strongest! The smartest!
The rightest!
I can't think of any game where the chargen engine also has all the rules of the game in there. Come on, man.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
Speaking of dehumanizing, I should really start making that Naga character I've been thinking about, just need to figure out how the hell you function in the modern world without arms :v:

Vavrek
Mar 2, 2013

I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?
Play a rigger always accompanied by a humanoid butler-drone?

Be a magician and use Magic Fingers for everything?

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.
Or you know, get cyber arms. Be a sellout.

I forget if shadowrun nagas are sapient water snakes or lizard ladies with fish tits like other settings.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.

Ronwayne posted:

Or you know, get cyber arms. Be a sellout.

That would require me to find a proper campaign, already asked a few months ago on the NET if they'd allow the extra arms thing for naga, probably the same response to cyber arms.


Also they're literal big rear end snakes.

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.
Fine, then get one of those scooters with adaptation on it and be a snake on a fat person tractor.

Rockopolis
Dec 21, 2012

I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird
They need a helper following them around to help them with things. They shadowrun to pay for it - live in nursing is expensive, yo.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Magic fingers. Magic fingers for Everything. I'm kinda doing it now actually. My guys a mage who found out he was q mage by throwing a temper tantrum as a kid which resulted in him casting a flame thrower spell he couldn't control and burning off his hand. Now I have a force 1 focus sustaining magic fingers and he convinces everyone he's a germophobe so they don't question his gloves.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
Kinda wanted to do an adept naga though, cause dat poison.

Solid Poopsnake
Mar 27, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost
I call this one Bitey.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Just have a drone follow you around and handle anything that requires hands. Dress it in a black suit and insist that it's called Jeeves.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

Jam Buddies

Nalesh posted:

Kinda wanted to do an adept naga though, cause dat poison.

Mystic adept, be the best of both worlds.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
Still not sure how my priority is gonna be though, like obviously I want a ton of magic, since that means the poison is more powerful, but the naga have a default 4 max agility.

Tias
May 25, 2008

Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

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Increase Agility spell is still a thing, right?

QuantumNinja
Mar 8, 2013

Trust me.
I pretend to be a ninja.

Tias posted:

Increase Agility spell is still a thing, right?

Yes, next to the other spells.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

You know you're doing it right when you've spent 82000 out of your starting 100000 on a pimped out car that provides no real benefit over just getting a stock car. :v:

The enhanced image screens together with an internal yerzed out customization can make your car quite amazing. The sky's the limit.

edit
Actually the sky isn't the limit now when I think about it since you can turn the interior into looking like a space shuttle and have the image screens displaying outer space.

Poil fucked around with this message at 12:10 on Feb 14, 2016

I ride bikes all day
Sep 10, 2007

I shitposted in the same thread for 2 years and all I got was this red text av. Ask me about my autism!



College Slice
First run - betray Poli, steal car, sell car. Make more nuyen easier than most runs in any campaign I ever played.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Bularin posted:

First run - betray Poli, steal car, sell car. Make more nuyen easier than most runs in any campaign I ever played.

This is a terrible discovery you will make. It is vastly more profitable to be an auto thief than a Shadowrunner, if you GM is using the book's suggested payouts. When I'm GMing, I pay out quite a bit higher, but also make lifestyle costs more important so at the end of the day the PCs gather spending money at about the same rate. It cuts down on them stealing everything that isn't nailed down.

Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Feb 17, 2016

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Liquid Communism posted:

This is a terrible discovery you will make. It is vastly more profitable to be an auto thief than a Shadowrunner, if you GM is using the book's suggested payouts. When I'm GMing, I pay out quite a bit higher, but also make lifestyle costs more important so at the end of the day the PCs gather spending money at about the same rate. It cuts down on them stealing everything that isn't nailed down.

I've always taken the approach that anything stolen like that would end up reported and they'd have to sell it to a fence to get maaaaybe 1/4 the listed price, though I'm intrigued how you manage the carrot end of that problem over the stick. What do you do to make lifestyle costs more important?

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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




SumYungGui posted:

I've always taken the approach that anything stolen like that would end up reported and they'd have to sell it to a fence to get maaaaybe 1/4 the listed price, though I'm intrigued how you manage the carrot end of that problem over the stick. What do you do to make lifestyle costs more important?

Simple. If the players don't keep them up, they have to deal with the consequences. Like their landlords selling them out to the people looking for them, or the local gang coming 'round to demand their protection money. Or the local go-gang lifting their car, since cars in SR5 at least are woefully easy to gank.

The last thing runners want is their bolthole being the site of a shootout or burglary, and being known to be such a cheapass that you can't keep up the rent is bad for the rep.

Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Feb 17, 2016

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