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W101 has some stuff which feels weird, but a lot of that is cultural. Super Sentai, the stuff W101 is based off of, is a kid's show in Japan but they have different ideas of what is okay for kid's shows in Japan. As an end result W101 is like 90% totally fine for kids and 10% inexplicably rear end shots, dick jokes and breast references. It's exactly something you'd see in a kid's show in Japan but it's probably something that would be weird for parents who purchase the extremely kid-friendly looking game and run smack dab into that stuff. (Of course in the US we had Rocko's Modern Life when I was a kid so....) I think it's worth mentioning in a review but for the most part it is presented as a kid-friendly game and is actually really good for kids on lower difficulty levels. The characters are stereotypes but (aside from maybe Pink) simple and cheerful ones. They're more Pacific Rim than straight racism. The entire thing is good-natured, rarely-cynical, worldwide heroism. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Sep 13, 2013 |
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Is Wonder Green still French in the Japanese version?
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How does the Hero Counter work? I've accidentally did it once, but I just can't seem to figure out the timeing. It's just flicking the stick in the direction of the enemy just as he's about to hit, right?
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Sep 12, 2013 16:46
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horriblePencilist posted:How does the Hero Counter work? I've accidentally did it once, but I just can't seem to figure out the timeing. It's just flicking the stick in the direction of the enemy just as he's about to hit, right? Yep. It's exactly the same as the Moons from Bayonetta.
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Sep 12, 2013 18:22
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quote:the only East Asian endlessly delivers Confucian sayings through a thick accent.
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Sep 12, 2013 23:50
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horriblePencilist posted:Right, the Japanese studio with the Japanese publisher makes an offensive Japanese character. To be fair he's voiced by Yuri Lowenthal doing a seriously forced accent, so it does actually sound pretty doofy.
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Sep 12, 2013 23:51
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Ben "Professional Game Journalist" Kuchera put up his review of The Wonderful 101: Wonderful 101 suffers from inscrutable systems, non-existent tutorials, and an unwelcoming cameraquote:I don’t know. The game is confusing as hell, and it does a poor job of explaining itself to the player. I’ve put in a good amount of time, probably close to five hours, and I still don’t really understand what’s going on. The game has done next to nothing to help me figure out what the hell to do, how to effectively fight the enemy, or to introduce the player to the other levels of complexity in the game. This is where I would insert a video of tapping the fairly large "QUICK HELP" tab on the touchscreen. Or pressing Home and going to the manual. poo poo ain't hard. quote:The problem is that, despite its breezy atmosphere and childlike character and level design, it’s unwelcoming. You can bash your head against the side of the experience, or you can seek out lengthy tutorials to learn how to play before you even begin. I don’t fault anyone, reviewer or otherwise, who gives up and walks away. Many of us have limited time for our games, and it’s not worth fussing over games we don’t find enjoyable due to poor design in the beginning levels.  "They expect me to figure out how to play this?!?" *runs a website about videogames* *is Ben Kuchera*
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Ben Kuchera is the single worst video game journalist in the world
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quote:The Wonderful 101 is going to be debated for years, and it will likely grow a small but dedicated group of grognards who will bristle whenever anyone speaks ill of their recently adopted child. Ah, the old "call everyone who would want to call you out a loser" defence.
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Also linked from that garbage review, a pretty on-point discussion of why the gaming press is so poo poo at its job in this respect. Also, 'skill-focused game with no easy point of reference' made me even more excited for this game than I already was (which is a lot). I'm buying a Wii U for this.
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Sep 13, 2013 04:30
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Bayonetta seems like a really obvious point of reference. I don't get why people are treating this game like it crash-landed on earth from outer space, it's not really that far removed from your typical character action game.
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Sep 13, 2013 04:33
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Bayonetta seems like a really obvious point of reference. I don't get why people are treating this game like it crash-landed on earth from outer space, it's not really that far removed from your typical character action game. There seems to be a mental block where people went in expecting Pikmin and are completely and utterly incapable of switching gears even though the game is so Bayonetta that it contains direct, repeated, blatant references to Bayonetta.
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Sep 13, 2013 04:40
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Is the camera locked at an angle or can you freely rotate it around your characters?
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tooooooo bad posted:Is the camera locked at an angle or can you freely rotate it around your characters? Locked at an angle outside, indoors you can rotate freely. Indoor areas are almost universally puzzle areas except for like one or two which contain simple enemies.
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Sep 13, 2013 05:32
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Can't these reviewers at least say like 'I wasn't quite able to grasp these controls, but I'm sure other people can'? Why can't you be wrong? It's not like any reviewer plays the entire game these days.
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Sep 13, 2013 06:21
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It's implied its the author's opinion, that's why it's a review. And reviews that lack convictions generally aren't very persuasive.
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Dieting Hippo posted:
So Ben Kuchera is the Tim Buckley of video game journalism?
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Had an absolute blast playing the first two levels, but when the first boss fight came I had to give up all frustrated. When the first Owrochee head goes down, Red screams "UNITE BUILD" the green thing comes up, I put in all of my Wonderful ones and then nothing happens. They stay in the dome for a few seconds while I move and jump around, try to get in, press every button and then come out again. All the while the other head cannot be damaged and keeps spitting flames. Died about 7 times now, because it simply doesn't activate whatever is supposed to happen. What am I doing wrong?
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BioTech posted:Had an absolute blast playing the first two levels, but when the first boss fight came I had to give up all frustrated. You need a full 100, keep fighting the other head and more choppers full of military dudes will come, when you've got 100 you can complete the build.
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A Sometimes Food posted:You need a full 100, keep fighting the other head and more choppers full of military dudes will come, when you've got 100 you can complete the build. I have a full 100, the sequence where you stab the eye out and the head goes down only happens after you free everyone. Also, all 100 are up and in the build, no stunned Wonderful Ones around or anything. It just doesn't work and I found more people on YT with the same problem.
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BioTech posted:Had an absolute blast playing the first two levels, but when the first boss fight came I had to give up all frustrated. I had this problem as well, and I had the full team. I'm also pretty certain that this part doesn't activate until you have 100. Turns out one of the dudes wasn't in the wonder-liner for some reason or another.
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I've had problems with Unite Build where it requires a full 100 people like that. Usually moving closer to the thing I'm trying to build while wiggling the right stick in that direction will get the last team member into the build.
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yoshesque posted:I had this problem as well, and I had the full team. I'm also pretty certain that this part doesn't activate until you have 100. Turns out one of the dudes wasn't in the wonder-liner for some reason or another.
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Dieting Hippo posted:Wonderful 101 suffers from inscrutable systems, non-existent tutorials, and an unwelcoming camera You don't say. Because the first boss battle is so horrid. This is just depressing
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Well I guess now it's obvious why modern games are clogged with hand-holding tutorials. You know, when I saw that demos on the Wii U had a maximum of 20 plays I thought "who the hell would ever play a demo 20 times?" But now I'm down to 5 left.
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I know reviewers are ultimate scum and whatever but how is the camera? There's one thing that persists and it's "I get hit by off screen stuff ALL THE TIME" and wondering how legit that is. So hyped for this on sunday 
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I know reviewers are ultimate scum and whatever but how is the camera? There's one thing that persists and it's "I get hit by off screen stuff ALL THE TIME" and wondering how legit that is. So hyped for this on sunday You can zoom in and out, but you can't rotate it. When you've zoomed out as much as possible (which I recommend), you should have a good view of the battlefield. If you do get hit by something from off screen, it's your fault for letting an enemy get off screen in the first place. You have to know where all the enemies are at all times so you can react to their attacks (which they always clearly telegraph).
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I know reviewers are ultimate scum and whatever but how is the camera? There's one thing that persists and it's "I get hit by off screen stuff ALL THE TIME" and wondering how legit that is. So hyped for this on sunday I think the game is a colossal piece of poo poo, but that shouldn't affect your enjoyment of the game. God knows why people are so angry that some reviewers hate the game.
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Jut posted:I think the game is a colossal piece of poo poo, but that shouldn't affect your enjoyment of the game. God knows why people are so angry that some reviewers hate the game. Doesn't really answer my question on the camera but thanks?
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I know reviewers are ultimate scum and whatever but how is the camera? There's one thing that persists and it's "I get hit by off screen stuff ALL THE TIME" and wondering how legit that is. So hyped for this on sunday I honestly never had much trouble with it, but i kept it zoomed out to maximum at all times. Frankly I would say a more likely issue is "so much poo poo is onscreen it's hard to keep track of" more than "I'm getting hit offscreen."
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Jut posted:I think the game is a colossal piece of poo poo, but that shouldn't affect your enjoyment of the game. God knows why people are so angry that some reviewers hate the game. As a customer you can hate anything you buy for sure, but reviewers should attempt to be at least somewhat objective with a review. I swear some reviews just poo poo on the game for page hits. quote:An inability to fit into an established genre, mixed with a lack of care for teaching the player how to interact with the game’s often inscrutable mechanics, quote:but is likely to become a cult classic. Both in the same sentence.
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The joke of Wonder White isn't even that he's a stereotypical Asian dude reeling off Confucian poverbs. The joke is that he doesn't shut up. Dude has like a hundred of these things and he wants to squeeze them all in before the other characters can shut him up and get back to business.ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I know reviewers are ultimate scum and whatever but how is the camera? There's one thing that persists and it's "I get hit by off screen stuff ALL THE TIME" and wondering how legit that is. So hyped for this on sunday There were a couple of times I got hit by poo poo off screen and was kind of frustrated by it but it didn't ruin the experience and even in the times it did happen I figure I'dve been able to pick up on the sound cues the enemies that got me usually make if I didn't suck act action games.
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Man this game. I need a Wii U. Why do I not have enough money for a Wii U? Why can't I be a wonderful one oh one? I'll buy the game Kamiya. I'll buy two if it means there's more amazing Platinum games saving the world every day.
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Played the demo at a friend's place. It is Platinum's destiny to save Video Games. I am seriously holding out on buying a Wii U for as long as possible but this is making it hard.
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horriblePencilist posted:Also, I'm having trouble effectively fighting the turtle monsters. I understand you can block their stomp and knock them over, but the geathjerk file mentions their tail being their weakpoint, and while it looks like I could use Unite Whip on it, it's not doing anything.Am I missing something? This is a little late but (spoilered just in case someone wants to find out themselves) you can pretty safely ignore the thing about the Whip, all it does is throw the turtle at the other turtle then it'll get back up again, and even then you can only do that once you've knocked it over. Best thing to do is to block the stomp thing they do, then attack the loving poo poo out of it until it falls on its back, then you can go nuts without worrying about its armour. Really, the most annoying thing about the turtle monsters is the other one that will be doing the loving headbutt thing that you can't block while you're trying to attack the other of the pair.
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Monkey Fracas posted:Played the demo at a friend's place. It is Platinum's destiny to save Video Games. I don't know, does it really count as it being their destiny to save games when everyone who wants it goes "Well, I'll buy it later?" Ain't really their fault but I doubt we're gonna see a W102 when even the people who have a Wii U and want the game are going "I'll wait for it to be on sale."
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ImpAtom posted:I don't know, does it really count as it being their destiny to save games when everyone who wants it goes "Well, I'll buy it later?" Ain't really their fault but I doubt we're gonna see a W102 when even the people who have a Wii U and want the game are going "I'll wait for it to be on sale." Everyone? I bought a Wii U for it. I know plenty of others who've done the same and quite a few who already own a Wii U and are really looking forward to the game's US release.
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Dunban posted:Everyone? Well, that's hyperbole, but a lot of what I've seen on it is "I'll wait (because it's going to sell like poo poo and will be $20 in 2 months.)" Which is a completely reasonable path to take because it will be $20 in two months. v  v
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One day, Platinum will make a bad game and we will all bemoan its fall into the terrible rut of standard video game tropes. Today is not that day.
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Hypha posted:One day, Platinum will make a bad game and we will all bemoan its fall into the terrible rut of standard video game tropes. Today is not that day. Anarchy Reigns wasn't so hot. Honestly I wasn't that big on Madworld either.
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