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Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

DreamShipWrecked posted:

Should note for anyone coming fresh into the game, the real battle is not trying to kill all the cops, but to accomplish your objective before you run out of bullets. You live and die by your ammo.

So always bring a couple bags of it. And shoot for the head. *Always*. If you don't get that down then you will lose in Very Hard and Overkill when those (god drat) tan SWAT show up and reflect 75% of your shots to the chest. *Aim for the head*

So if the videos on youtube previewing the game are any indication, this game is going to be hilarious to watch newbies play. Case in point, this video I stumbled across:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QG2pZSFFMg

You've got one guy pulling a perpetual Leeroy Jenkins in the wrong direction, another guy freaking out and advocating abandoning the mission objective as he gets shot to pieces, and general chaos everywhere as the whole thing slowly goes to poo poo over the course of two missions. It looks loving amazing. :v:

Archonex fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Aug 13, 2013

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H2SO4
Sep 11, 2001

put your money in a log cabin


Buglord
There's nothing like the feeling you have when you mask up in the back of the building when everything's still quiet and you're creeping around a corner to subdue a guard, and there's no rush quite like the one that happens when you're tiptoeing around and someone trips the alarm and suddenly everyone's calling audibles and adjusting to the upcoming assault.

You get that feeling every goddamn round. I loving love this game.

OP posted:

Please use a mic if you have one

Can't stress this enough. Get your loving mics on, people - you can't stop for a chat in the middle of an overkill SWAT rush.

H2SO4 fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Aug 13, 2013

Doctor Shitfaced
Feb 13, 2012
Someone got a copy of the Xbox version early, and recorded a bunch of gameplay of heists we haven't seen yet:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYD0s9u6Ol243Ua4l6QgYOsVRF3ltsl0z

:siren:THERE ARE LIKELY SPOILERS IN THESE VIDEOS IF YOU CARE ABOUT THAT SORT OF THING.:siren:

TarKist
Oct 18, 2005

εν τούτω νίκα
Anyone else still having troubles with their mics in game?

RandallODim
Dec 30, 2010

Another 1? Aww man...

dreffen posted:

Mastermind
The Mastermind is the manipulative leader who excels at crowd control, and also happens to carry a doctor bag just because.

The Mastermind has the Medic Bag because sometimes the dumb idiots you're ordering around don't listen and get hurt, so you need to be ready to make their physical booboos better just like you do with their tactical ones.

I cannot wait to play this with Goons and my friends. Just from the limited time I've had playing the beta, Payday 2 is going to be a lot of fun in any sort of coordinating group. It really is amazing just how much this game leaves Payday 1 in the dust, from the wider variety of jobs to the heavily improved levelling system.

fennesz
Dec 29, 2008

TarKist posted:

Anyone else still having troubles with their mics in game?

I ran into a few problems while playing with goons where all of our mics would stop working for seemingly no reason. Although quitting to the main menu and reforming the party fixed it.

dvorak
Sep 11, 2003

WARNING: Temporal rift detected!
These guys really nailed the feel of the game. I think they were 80% of the way to Heat: The Game, with the first release. Now though, they really hit the mark.

I'm assuming that they watched Heat, and Point Break about 100 times during production.

Tophereth
Mar 27, 2009
One of my roomates was talking payday 2 up really hard yesterday and I blew him off. This thread made me check it out 20 minutes ago and now, as soon as I get off work in two hours, I will go home and buy it. Hopefully i'll play with some of you guys at release time. I'm going in lljk.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead

Derek Dominoe posted:

Thanks for the feedback! I wasn't necessarily going for Doomguy. My original plan was Mastermind + Technician, but the guys I mostly play with already have Mastermind and Ghost well-covered. I was going more for "guy who can open anything, and silently if necessary, and then provides cover when things get noisy". My main motivation for the trip mine tree was actually the shaped charges. I figure I can pick, saw, drill, blast, or even shotgun open anything while providing solid combat support. Or are the shaped charges redundant with the saw? If that's the case, I'll probably abandon the trip mines altogether.
I thought you wanted the shaped charges because the tier above provides lots of armor buffs for you and the crew. You can't open safes with saws, so you can use guns and explosives, or the saw and ammo bags, depending on the heist.


Check your volume mixer if mics are not working.

Zurreco
Dec 27, 2004

Cutty approves.
For anyone who preordered but didn't get the Career Criminal pack, you can start preloading the game as of a few minutes ago. Game will go live in a bit.

H2SO4
Sep 11, 2001

put your money in a log cabin


Buglord

Zurreco posted:

For anyone who preordered but didn't get the Career Criminal pack, you can start preloading the game as of a few minutes ago. Game will go live in a bit.

Did us CCErs get the ability to preload early? I kicked it off on the morning/early afternoon of 8/12.

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


Less than three hours to go! I went full Ghost in beta but using skill planners, Mastermind and Technician seem way more generally useful.

averox
Feb 28, 2005



:dukedog:
Fun Shoe

H2SO4 posted:

Can't stress this enough. Get your loving mics on, people - you can't stop for a chat in the middle of an overkill SWAT rush.

Steam hardware survey says that 72.65% of people have mics. Seems like 9/10 of those people refuse to use their mics. Seriously goddamn it's 2013 people no one gives a poo poo how you sound. I understand that there are times and circumstances where you can't use your mic but just use your mic if you can folks. It's that much quicker and handier.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead
If anyone is going halfway into Mastermind, please take Dominator and bind F to LMB, for the opportunity to turn the game into a side story of 50 Cent Blood in the Sand. Curse at cops while shooting them enough times and they get so ashamed they give up. Let a Mastermind use Joker on all the surrendered cops.

What are the stats on Joker? One convert at a time?

Scalding Coffee fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Aug 13, 2013

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Scalding Coffee posted:

What are the stats on Joker? One convert at a time?

One per player, Ace-tier increases the recruit's strength by something crazy like 300 or 350%.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Damnit, I got the Rainbow Material/Pattern or whatever.. so rare, but so soon it will be gone.

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

H2SO4 posted:

Did us CCErs get the ability to preload early? I kicked it off on the morning/early afternoon of 8/12.

Nope. I started preloading at about 1am Australian central, just waiting for it to unlock now.

dreffen
Dec 3, 2005

MEDIOCRE, MORSOV!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaGXXwxguJE Metro: Last Lightlaunch trailer is up

Tophereth
Mar 27, 2009
If anyone is going to be playing on release, or really anytime ever, send me a PM here with your steam name or add mine. It's Tophereth like it's spelled here. A warning though: I will have no idea what i'm doing. I've played the first one, but only briefly because I didn't think it was very fun.

edit: i'm an idiot who doesn't read OPs

Tophereth fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Aug 13, 2013

Mr Scumbag
Jun 6, 2007

You're a fucking cocksucker, Jonathan

dreffen posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaGXXwxguJE Metro: Last Lightlaunch trailer is up

I appreciate what they're going for, but that is not a good trailer for this game.

luv butts n nuts
Aug 22, 2008

Played the last little itty bit of the beta since 4am CST is too late. Haven't been this excited to play a game in awhile.

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012
Does a ping over 250+ really mess up the game? Planetside 2 isn't too bad but eh. If so is it worth-while to start up an Aus Payday group?

Le0
Mar 18, 2009

Rotten investigator!
So I'm going to be mainly playing with a friend of mine and he told me he was going mastermind primarily.
I'm probably going mainly enforcer to cover the stuff he doesn't but technician looked great as well.

I wanted some additional info about the saw because it looks interesting but I hadn't the chance to test it obviously. As I understand the saw is your primary but can you actually kill with it or do you use your secondary to kill and the saw is just to open doors and atms?

Any other suggestions for a good duo with mastermind?

Kevlar Beard
Feb 20, 2010

Is anyone doing a 4-pack? I'd like to get in on this.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/BEES

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Mr Scumbag posted:

I appreciate what they're going for, but that is not a good trailer for this game.

Agreed. Payday doesn't really evoke feelings of pathos for anyone whenever I play it, it makes me want to recreate Heat. poo poo, I wish the game didn't count off for collateral damage.

If anything, they should have just amped up the "bad-dudeness" of the game, like the trailers for Kane & Lynch...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfMBFpPbHDc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIhHTCOk-7U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4SzPdjgKOA

The game might be bad, but those trailers made you want to play that game.

Phuzun
Jul 4, 2007

Le0 posted:

So I'm going to be mainly playing with a friend of mine and he told me he was going mastermind primarily.
I'm probably going mainly enforcer to cover the stuff he doesn't but technician looked great as well.

I wanted some additional info about the saw because it looks interesting but I hadn't the chance to test it obviously. As I understand the saw is your primary but can you actually kill with it or do you use your secondary to kill and the saw is just to open doors and atms?

Any other suggestions for a good duo with mastermind?

Yes,, you can kill with the saw. You will burn through blades though and you need to be in melee range. That said it shouldn't matter since you have a sidearm and you typically bring a saw when you plan to be leaving without a big battle. Mastermind is great with an enforcer and mixed groups are the best.

Badgerz
Aug 25, 2011
This is the build I'm thinking (72MM/48EN): http://www.pd2skills.info/profile/bestestiest/

pistol messiah (res on pistol kill), inspire (remote res) and joker (convert), all the op tier bonuses in enforcer, double doctor bags, shotgun, saw.

Badgerz fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Aug 13, 2013

Le0
Mar 18, 2009

Rotten investigator!

Phuzun posted:

Yes,, you can kill with the saw. You will burn through blades though and you need to be in melee range. That said it shouldn't matter since you have a sidearm and you typically bring a saw when you plan to be leaving without a big battle. Mastermind is great with an enforcer and mixed groups are the best.

Oki, thank you.

Can anyone critique this build please : http://goo.gl/9J0n9I

Le0 fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Aug 13, 2013

TERRIBLE SHITLORD
Oct 20, 2005


MY NIGGA HAVE
YOU TRIED LSD

Kevlar Beard posted:

Is anyone doing a 4-pack? I'd like to get in on this.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/BEES

I would also be interested in getting in on a 4-pack

http://steamcommunity.com/id/dr_badonkadonk

The Mash
Feb 17, 2007

You have to say I can open my presents

Le0 posted:

Oki, thank you.

Can anyone critique this build please : http://goo.gl/9J0n9I

Don't put that many points in Tech and then miss out on the best skill in the tree

Badgerz
Aug 25, 2011

Le0 posted:

Oki, thank you.

Can anyone critique this build please : http://goo.gl/9J0n9I

mid tier tech is garbage imo, the best talent is the top tier 'bulletproof' and you've missed that :/

Mr Scumbag
Jun 6, 2007

You're a fucking cocksucker, Jonathan

Steam store posted:

Available: 13 August 2013
This game will unlock in approximately 1 hour

Please be correct. Please be correct. Please be correct.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Le0 posted:

Oki, thank you.

Can anyone critique this build please : http://goo.gl/9J0n9I

poo poo, if we're doing this, I'd like to see if this build is good as well: http://goo.gl/FsP8eQ

I'm not really a shotgun lover, I'd rather use automatic weapons with lots of ammo, beat the gently caress out of people who get too close, and be heavily armored while moving fast. So, I went with 11MM/81EN/6TC/22GH, with Cat Burglar, Sprinter, Endurance, Rifleman aced; the Enforcer middle tree completely aced, the Enforcer strength tree aced up to Tough Guy, then owned up the Carbon Blade.

Kevlar Beard
Feb 20, 2010

Payday 2 4-pack starting up.

1. http://steamcommunity.com/id/BEES
2. http://steamcommunity.com/id/drbadonkadonk
3.
4.

Add your profile; we need someone to buy the pack and I'd like to be able to get the preorder stuff so let's hurry!

The Mash
Feb 17, 2007

You have to say I can open my presents

Young Freud posted:

poo poo, if we're doing this, I'd like to see if this build is good as well: http://goo.gl/FsP8eQ

I'm not really a shotgun lover, I'd rather use automatic weapons with lots of ammo, beat the gently caress out of people who get too close, and be heavily armored while moving fast. So, I went with 11MM/81EN/6TC/22GH, with Cat Burglar, Sprinter, Endurance, Rifleman aced; the Enforcer middle tree completely aced, the Enforcer strength tree aced up to Tough Guy, then owned up the Carbon Blade.

Your Mastermind tree is all messed up

Mastermind has two of the best skills in the entire game very early in the tree and you picked up neither. Get the 10 cable ties and the +10% experience ones instead of what you have

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Mr Scumbag posted:

Please be correct. Please be correct. Please be correct.

Unfortunately, Steam tends to err on the side of "1 < time < 2" when it comes to approximately.

I called the build I'm considering what I did because it has a lot of Ghost and a lot of shouting :downs:

The Mash
Feb 17, 2007

You have to say I can open my presents
A mate and I just theorycrafted out the perfect group and the results are in:

3x Mastermind/Enforcer with 0 pts in Ghost/Tech
1 guy who has 6 Mastermind for the XP bonus, 47 Enforcer for the ballistic vest and loads of Tech for Bulletproof.

Ghost is beyond useless.

The only thing you need to do a stealth run is a silencer on your starter pistol and the ten cable ties in Mastermind

Le0
Mar 18, 2009

Rotten investigator!

The Mash posted:

Don't put that many points in Tech and then miss out on the best skill in the tree

Badgerz posted:

mid tier tech is garbage imo, the best talent is the top tier 'bulletproof' and you've missed that :/

Thanks guys, I was asking exactly for this kind of answers.

Here is the updated version of my build, basically added bulletproof at the expense of fully loaded?
http://goo.gl/ozEm7i

The Mash
Feb 17, 2007

You have to say I can open my presents

Le0 posted:

Thanks guys, I was asking exactly for this kind of answers.

Here is the updated version of my build, basically added bulletproof at the expense of fully loaded?
http://goo.gl/ozEm7i

We're doing basically the same thing, here's mine:
http://www.pd2skills.info/profile/bestestiest/#/profile/mash-2/

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Le0
Mar 18, 2009

Rotten investigator!

The Mash posted:

We're doing basically the same thing, here's mine:
http://www.pd2skills.info/profile/bestestiest/#/profile/mash-2/

Cool, hey could you try the combat engineer skill? Is this worth it since I haven't tested I don't really see what it does.

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