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Knightmare posted:When mine crashed on the card screen I still had the money/exp I believe, or at least the skill point I had earned. Yeah, it seems like you crash if you get an achievement so this seems to be Steam's issue. I'm really sad how people are giving up on the company so fast (stupid pubbies mind you) after how clear Overkill has made it that they are working non-stop to fix them. As a Sim City veteran, these guys are saints.
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Knightmare posted:When mine crashed on the card screen I still had the money/exp I believe, or at least the skill point I had earned. Mine crashed during the money tally screen. Probably just gonna take a break until poo poo gets fixed.
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fennesz posted:I've been stuck at 89% for 30 minutes. Each time I try to start the download it considers it for a moment and then pauses it again without making any progress. I got the same thing. Eventually I just let it go as I noticed that the estimate was still counting down. EVENTUALLY it started downloading the last gig or so after waiting and the estimate was getting close to zero. Still bullshit. It's like its redownloading the game but its not.
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I wish they'd change it so you'd still get your card even if the host drops/crashes at the end of a job. At least I got the cash and exp though.
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SovietSteel posted:Mine crashed during the money tally screen. Probably just gonna take a break until poo poo gets fixed. Bummer  I haven't installed yet and have been super pumped to play since checking it out at E3. I hate crashing and losing rewards, so I guess I'll just wait to play.
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Pro Job Watchdogs was exactly the same as standard but with better payout.
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Hahaha, any anger I might have had against OK just vanished reading the patch notes. Can't stay mad at any company that works this hard and has time for silly jokes. 
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Yeah, they seem to actually give a poo poo so I can't be too fussed to complain about anything. I might get mad if something freezes after a long heist, but knowing they're already on it will at least temper me quite a bit.
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http://www.pd2skills.info/profile/jerkstore-ghost/ How does this look for a Ghost build? I'll probably replace Lucky Charm with other things once I have most items, but I'm not sure if there's something I'm missing. I'm playing with 3 friends who will be focusing on the other trees.
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Feenix posted:So torn. You guys are all positive, but the reviews out so far (disregarding the scores) mention things that might just annoy me. (And the mention of rather unspectacular sensation shooting enemies...) I own and played Payday 1 and spent some time on the demo of Payday 2, and I'm not a fan. Full disclosure, I used to be a cop and got training on SWAT tactics and entries, etc and the police AI is just so brutally stupid and unrealistic that I can't suspend my disbelief and enjoy it. Things like civilians blocking a door and the police hide behind them a start shooting at me, snipers with BRIGHT AS gently caress lasers standing up in a window, fully silhouetted and begging to be shot...ugh. Give me mindless zombie hordes in coop shooters any day, not supposedly trained humans that act like idiots. I would love this game if it was at all realistic in the enemy AI, but it's not and I don't.
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^ Yeah if you're expecting a SWAT sim you're not going to like this. The AI isn't that bad.  Feenix posted:So torn. You guys are all positive, but the reviews out so far (disregarding the scores) mention things that might just annoy me. (And the mention of rather unspectacular sensation shooting enemies...) I'm kind of surprised people still put such faith in reviews. The game is fantastic. The gunplay is responsive and rewarding; shooting a cop in the face and watching his helmet fly off as he careens onto his cop car is amazing. The sound design, both music and sound effects are really well done, second only to a Battlefield title. Although the stellar soundtrack more than makes up for this. The customization of equipment, skills, armor and masks makes you always want to work toward improving something about your character. It's a good game. Launch is having problems but let's be realistic: what major release hasn't had issues?
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jerkstoresup posted:http://www.pd2skills.info/profile/jerkstore-ghost/ Dead presidents is so not worth picking up, the extra cash you get is minimal. I'd take the less fall damage skill over it.
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There may be a subtle anti farm code, finished jewelry store in 50 seconds and it refused to show up again in Crime.net until the lobby was remade.
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Are there more missions in release than in beta? I thought there was like 30 missions but there was like 8 in beta.
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Where are the blueprints my CCE copy was supposed to come with? The Bain guide and soundtrack is with my install, but I don't see blueprints anywhere.
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fennesz posted:Launch is having problems but let's be realistic: what major release hasn't had issues? It definitely helps that Overkill seems to actually give a poo poo and are already patching things/working on patches. Makes things sting a lot less when they happen.
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fennesz posted:^ Yeah if you're expecting a SWAT sim you're not going to like this. The AI isn't that bad. It's probably just a disconnect that I'm having with the idea of shooting hordes of non-aliens or zombies or something. Like, if you set me down in L4D2 or Halo or Metro or whatever I'm easily entertained: the enemy is not us, it's foreign and alien and if their battle doctrine is to charge us bodily while we mow them down, more power to them. When I play against an opponent that is depicted as a realistic human belonging to a known organization, I expect them to behave at least somewhat close to real life, if that makes sense. Like, if I was going to play a WW2 shooter and zee German AI was programmed to charge at me with Kaiser helmets and sabres, I probably couldn't get into it. I'm not trying to be a sperg or sound like a high speed low drag operator, and I honestly wanted to like the game, but it didn't work for me 
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SixtySix posted:[S]o brutally stupid and unrealistic that I can't suspend my disbelief and enjoy it. While I can understand, the game's really meant to be arcadey and fun and not too serious (especially in terms of the never-ending waves sent at you). After all, you need more than three ingredients and a couple of minutes to make meth. Snipers without lasers, special units that coordinate with each-other, the challenge would go through the roof (imagine if the shields outside the truck on Overkill Watchdogs acted realistically, you wouldn't be able to progress). I hated L4D and L4D2, but I love Payday 2 because it requires a whole separate type of coordination, especially for stealth bits.
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The "You're getting shot from here" indicator seemed terrible in the beta and combining that with getting rid of the Sniper's beams would make them ridiculous, I feel.
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Feenix posted:So torn. You guys are all positive, but the reviews out so far (disregarding the scores) mention things that might just annoy me. (And the mention of rather unspectacular sensation shooting enemies...) The shooting is one of my favorite parts of the game. Guns sound and feel very meaty, the hit detection is satisfying, and decent iron sights. The focus/blurring with iron sights is a little distracting I guess.
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SixtySix posted:I'm not trying to be a sperg or sound like a high speed low drag operator, and I honestly wanted to like the game, but it didn't work for me To each their own. I didn't really think about it until reading your post but maybe that's because I've been watching movies like Heat, The Score and Ronin lately. You play as a bunch of super anti-heroes who are one step ahead of the cops at every turn. "Of course they're going to continually blunder into the killzone we've setup; we're just that good  "
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Interstellar Owl posted:Are there more missions in release than in beta? I thought there was like 30 missions but there was like 8 in beta. The beta had about 1/4 to 1/3 of the content of the full game.
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Kept myself blind about this and only discovered the release was pushed forward, gently caress. Will I get any enjoyment out of playing with bots (i.e. can they do stealth, etc)? Or shall I just jump straight into playing with other dudes and dudettes?
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poptart_fairy posted:Kept myself blind about this and only discovered the release was pushed forward, gently caress. The bots are terrible, the only way to play SP is to play missions that don't require you to move a ton of bags. They can't drop supplies and they don't carry bags which makes it extremely difficult to do heists that can't be completed in a couple of minutes.
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Doctor Shitfaced posted:Where are the blueprints my CCE copy was supposed to come with? The Bain guide and soundtrack is with my install, but I don't see blueprints anywhere. It looks like they're wrapped up in Bain's Guide. There's a section loaded up with maps and general tips for parts of heists. It also includes drill and lockpick times for safes. Really neat guide that OK put a lot of effort into.
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Vatek posted:The beta had about 1/4 to 1/3 of the content of the full game. This may not be the case, it might be closer to 1/2. It looks like the only new things are: -Pro versions of jobs -Mallcrasher -Firestarter -Framing Frame -Big Oil ~3 new Escapes -Ukrainian Job & Bank Gold which are just versions of Jewelry Store/Bank Nobody's found any new Safehouse functionality and the previously leaked mission list appears not to be in-game. There are hints in Bane's Crime Book that there's a big Secret either in the game or planned.
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In order for realism to work in a game like Payday 2, I think you'd have to make everything else realistic too to balance it out. Like, bulletproof vests would block very little damage, it'd take very few actual bullets to down a player, etc. If players were every bit as resilient as they are now, and the AI police tried using real-life tactics, they'd still be dispatched pretty easily. The cops just plain go down more easily than the Payday Gang, and that'd have to change if you wanted to use real police tactics.
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Atoramos posted:This may not be the case, it might be closer to 1/2. If I'm not mistaken, don't new jobs open up when you hit certain levels in game? I do remember the beta trying to vaguely do something like that once you hit 10. Also, what the crap is a Pro Job and what is the difference between it and a regular version of the same heist?
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Vatek posted:The bots are terrible, the only way to play SP is to play missions that don't require you to move a ton of bags. They can't drop supplies and they don't carry bags which makes it extremely difficult to do heists that can't be completed in a couple of minutes. Alright. Bit of a shame but I'll live.
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LuiCypher posted:If I'm not mistaken, don't new jobs open up when you hit certain levels in game? I do remember the beta trying to vaguely do something like that once you hit 10. The 'new heists' that unlock include the same heists at higher difficulties. The missions I listed are the only missions mentioned in Achievements (other than the ones in the Beta), so I'd be surprised if there are missions just missing any reference to them. Pro Jobs you only have one attempt at success, and are worth more than normal jobs. VV That, or they were never intended in the first place. Big Oil wasn't on the previous list, nor was an Armored Car DLC. Getting 'only' four new missions is a bit of a letdown, but the game's still much bigger than Payday 1. I guess I'm still hoping for hidden content to be found, but my hopes aren't that high. Atoramos fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Aug 13, 2013 |
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^^ Got me then, maybe the stuff out of the files was DLC heists?Atoramos posted:This may not be the case, it might be closer to 1/2. Heists unlock every 10 levels so the available missions at level 1 aren't all of the content. Vatek fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Aug 13, 2013 |
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SixtySix posted:I own and played Payday 1 and spent some time on the demo of Payday 2, and I'm not a fan. Full disclosure, I used to be a cop and got training on SWAT tactics and entries, etc and the police AI is just so brutally stupid and unrealistic that I can't suspend my disbelief and enjoy it. Things like civilians blocking a door and the police hide behind them a start shooting at me, snipers with BRIGHT AS gently caress lasers standing up in a window, fully silhouetted and begging to be shot...ugh. They're stupid, but also really bright on the higher difficulty levels. I had a SWAT team member lob a flashbang into the manager's office on nightclub while we were holed up in there. This was followed by three of them crashing through the skylight while we were blinded, and taking down three group members before anyone had vision back. They did this with melee too, so there'd be no way to see them via muzzle flare. It seems as the difficulty increases, the smarter they get. They're basically zombies with guns on the lowest level, but once you hit around hard they start to use flanking and advanced tactics to flush you out. It's gotten to where I tell my team not to run for the van if an assault is going, since they always have an ambush set up that funnels you into multiple fields of fire. Archonex fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Aug 13, 2013 |
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dvorak posted:There should probably be an FAQ about the weapon unlock system in the OP. It's surely going to be a frequent question. i.e. I HAVE THE MOD WHY CAN'T I USE IT? Did a quick write up, though I just woke up so if there's something I forgot to add someone feel free to say so. 
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Feenix posted:So torn. You guys are all positive, but the reviews out so far (disregarding the scores) mention things that might just annoy me. (And the mention of rather unspectacular sensation shooting enemies...) I will say the shooting is pretty good.
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SixtySix posted:I own and played Payday 1 and spent some time on the demo of Payday 2, and I'm not a fan. Full disclosure, I used to be a cop and got training on SWAT tactics and entries, etc and the police AI is just so brutally stupid and unrealistic that I can't suspend my disbelief and enjoy it. Things like civilians blocking a door and the police hide behind them a start shooting at me, snipers with BRIGHT AS gently caress lasers standing up in a window, fully silhouetted and begging to be shot...ugh. Let's be honest here. The game is a mindless shooter, with hordes of enemies coming in. Not that different from a cop-skinned Left 4 Dead. Gameplay is fun independet of the skin used (zombie, cop, soldier, alien), right? But you aren't the first in commenting that, in the first Payday some people also complained of the mood whiplash between having a real world setting with robbers, cops, real heists locations, and then putting gameplay taken from Left 4 Dead. In the end, it's heist-themed arcade game. It's not a realistic simulation of heists. The game is very gamey, for example the hostages here are an original way put put the extra lives.
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I think my favorite theft moment from the beta was when it was just me and one of my Steam buddies doing the bank heist, and I insisted on going back into the vault for "one more box" before we left. The box I picked happened to have $13,000 in it. 
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