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Ramengank posted:I saw the 8 images at the top and was like "heh, whatever". Guess what, that's still not every characters Penders introduced http://archiesonic.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Characters_introduced_by_Ken_Penders 228 of them 
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There are 13 pages under "alternate versions of Knuckles". There is no such thing as a comic that needs 14 versions of one character.
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Oct 25, 2014 05:52
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Dr. Buttass posted:There are 13 pages under "alternate versions of Knuckles". 
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Discendo Vox posted:It's hard to say for sure, but I doubt it. There's overlap with the furry fandom more generally, and the furry fandom, and the subculture overlap, predate Penders being Penders. Judging by what I've seen on fanfiction.net (I use it to torture people, ok?) a number of the worst offenders have no idea the comics exist. These folks don't need Penders and his overwrought, poorly written material to project their own issues and suppressed desires onto cartoon animals. Yeah that's one of the big weird things about the comic, that it existed pretty much entirely in its own bubble by both Sega (which again is the reason the insanity was allowed to continue for so long) and the fan base. This game is pretty much the only outside thing to vaguely acknowledge it and look how that went.
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Sramaker posted:What? The intented effect is that the Comics are so much better now than that they were before, also the crossover is excellent so if can get more of it, you should! Yeah, the Mega Man/Sonic crossover is legit a very good comic.  Also it's totally a gateway drug into the Sonic comics because, like I said, they got rebooted in that very same crossover so you can start reading the comic without having to know what's going on. Oh, and to answer your question, you can read all the Mega Man and Sonic comics (and hell, most comics from most publishers in general) over on comixology.com Dr. Buttass posted:There are 13 pages under "alternate versions of Knuckles". I dare you to look up how many versions of Batman there are.
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Oct 25, 2014 07:57
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_versions_of_Batman Wow but since there is no definite version of Batman it's not the same as with Knuckles. Thank for pointing me at comixology.com
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TwoPair posted:I dare you to look up how many versions of Batman there are. I stand by my statement.
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TwoPair posted:I dare you to look up how many versions of Batman there are. But these are all from different continuities, right? I think the alternate Knuckles' are all from the same one or from branching paths off one set timeline. I didn't really look into this statement because I don't need THAT much Penders.
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Ramengank posted:But these are all from different continuities, right? I think the alternate Knuckles' are all from the same one or from branching paths off one set timeline. I didn't really look into this statement because I don't need THAT much Penders. It's the typical multiverse sort of thing. Infinite worlds, infinite red(or green) Knuckles. The problem wasn't really that Penders used a lot of echidna characters, or that he wanted to do dark stuff, it was that he was poo poo at using any characters, and couldn't write dark or light material. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Oct 26, 2014 |
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Oct 26, 2014 04:37
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Well it's official: I'm Insane, i have downloaded evey Archie comic books up to Sonic #250 and Universe #50. I will see how long i last until i skip to the parts where it get good again.
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Oct 28, 2014 01:38
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Sramaker posted:Well it's official: I'm Insane, i have downloaded evey Archie comic books up to Sonic #250 and Universe #50. I will see how long i last until i skip to the parts where it get good again. You are insane, I could never have made the ride without other people there. Still though, once it becomes good    It stays good
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Oct 28, 2014 02:12
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Sonic meets the weird part of his fanbase.
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Onmi posted:You are insane, I could never have made the ride without other people there. Yes it does, quoting from the BSS thread.    
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Oct 28, 2014 23:08
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Did Crazy robotnik/eggman just reference a youtube poop?
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Oct 28, 2014 23:29
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I actually laughed out loud at Pingas.  
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Oct 28, 2014 23:47
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Did Crazy robotnik/eggman just reference a youtube poop? Yes and No, it's from AoStH originally before being a youtube poop meme.
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The clip in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsJ9rwaamas And Mike Pollock's version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ni9oVAAO2Q
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:The clip in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsJ9rwaamas Unfortunately, Mike Pollock didn't know about the reference when he was asked to do it. He wasn't happy when he found out what it meant, and said he wasn't doing fan voice requests ever again.
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Oct 29, 2014 00:28
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Aww, that sucks. Why'd it upset him so much?
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Oct 29, 2014 00:30
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Aww, that sucks. Why'd it upset him so much? I figure being tricked into making a dick joke would probably make a pro VA mad (if they didn't know they were doing it)
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I actually laughed out loud at Pingas. So to sum up those collections of posts, In Issue #200 Sonic defeated Eggman and the shock of Sonic's speech as he beat the crap out of him (Essentially at Eggman couldn't beat him no matter what, how hard he tried, or what he pulled out) caused him to snap mentally. This reduced him to a gibbering vegetable who's mind jumped between the different points in his life and blurted out random phrases like the internet references up there. Now at the same time the Iron Dominion rolled in to take the villain slot, and at this time Eggman was putting his mind back together. Eventually he came to the conclusion, Sonics use of the Chaos Emeralds had left him a being of chaos, Ergo, Eggman couldn't plan around him, this let him put himself back together again, and became... much more dangerous. Because again Eggman realized "If I shoot at Sonic, I'm never going to hit him, so I wont bother doing that. I wont fight like I used to." He became... much more of a threat this way, willing to cut a loss and just say "Okay shows over, no I didn't accomplish what I wanted to but I did manage to gently caress with him." And this could easily have been done badly, but it was done really well. He has nothing on the Battle Bird Armada though.  See if Eggman's the dude with all the technology and Naugus was the villain who had all the magic, then the BBA rounded out the like in that the Battle Kukku here just punched everything. The fact they had a really good arc, with really strong writing, and happen to be interesting all up? lovely addition from Tails Adventure (Game Gear game)  One just must always remember you can't NOT have a threatening villain, they just have to be threatening in the RIGHT way, and I've always said that Sonic should feel like a Pixar movie.
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Everything in that post was just magical, but this This is just the most  image I have ever seen.Additionally, I found this. 
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Oct 29, 2014 02:58
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Shadow was pretty great in the Universe run. Mostly because they finally wrote him out of the grimdark hole he was in.Rigged Death Trap posted:Did Crazy robotnik/eggman just reference a youtube poop? Yup, and it's amazing.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Everything in that post was just magical, but this That entire Arc is amazing  The long and short of it is, Blaze is hunting the Sol Emeralds, so Amy and Cream are helping her because heroes, Rogue and Team Dark are out for it to give to GUN to strengthen GUNs power base, The Babylon Rogues are out for it because their thieving pricks, and Nack, Bean and Bark are out for it because someone hired them to. 
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Oct 29, 2014 03:32
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"From the show" is another Youtube Poop reference. I want to say there was a "tomorrow I'll" in that arc someplace too.
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Oct 29, 2014 03:46
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Every time I see that "snooPING AS usual" page I am instantly reminded of Long Jonh Baldry aka best Eggman and then I get sad.
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Oct 29, 2014 04:03
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Hey Omni, did they ever do an adaptation of a Sonic game that was good?
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Sramaker posted:Hey Omni, did they ever do an adaptation of a Sonic game that was good? You mean in the comics? Hm... well technically they're adapting Unleashed NOW and it's good. But the only real adaption they did of a game into the comic was Sonic Adventure, and let me sum up how good it was. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. gently caress THIS COMIC. Okay so... Mm sorry. So When they did the Sonic Adventure adaption, supposedly they only got video of the game, not script. And since Penders had shoved his violating cock so hard into the setting they had to explain things like "Station Square is under a mountain." Or... Tikal having her design changed and her name mispelled every time she appeared! And of course they figured out how to have Amy Rose not appear ever, because Penders didn't like the fact he was forced to use actual SONIC characters and... Man look this would be an entire freaking essay all on its own. Sonic Advenutre may not have been the best game but it was utterly hosed and horribly adapted.
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There is also the Genesis saga, they did an adaption of the two first genesis games once Eggman tried to reshape the world to fight Sonic's chaos-ness.
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So with all this talk of Sonic comics, I would just like to say that I recently sat down and read the Sonic/Mega Man crossover and I gotta say, even though I'm not into comics and know next to nothing about Mega Man, it was a pretty fun read. Best part was, obviously, the villain interactions. Worst part was the ending. It just sorta ends after both universes get reset and Eggman fucks up the restoration of his universe. For someone who wasn't planning on reading on after the crossover, that ending is sorta abrupt. I was actually sitting there wondering if my copy was missing the last few pages.
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Well that's because the crossover wasn't meant to exist in a vacuum and be read as its own thing. It's just a story arc taking place within the stories of the Sonic & Megaman comics.
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To be fair on the 'under a mountain' thing for Station Square, they did also have to get around the otherwise notable lack of humans up until that point (though I think there had been a few exceptions beforehand?), which then involved a rather convoluted backstory for Eggman, Mobius, and the anthropomorphic animal people of the series as a whole. Because nooooo couldn't just have it be some far removed part of the planet that was otherwise uninvolved, they needed to get the freaking apocalypse involved. I think the sheer lag that the comics have now had - both Sonic and Megaman really - for adapting material is actually a great boon, because it means they don't have to worry about getting scripts prior to a release, and instead can focus on tweaking and fine tuning the material as needed.
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Astro Nut posted:To be fair on the 'under a mountain' thing for Station Square, they did also have to get around the otherwise notable lack of humans up until that point (though I think there had been a few exceptions beforehand?), which then involved a rather convoluted backstory for Eggman, Mobius, and the anthropomorphic animal people of the series as a whole. Because nooooo couldn't just have it be some far removed part of the planet that was otherwise uninvolved, they needed to get the freaking apocalypse involved. So apparently there's this alien species known as the Xorda, which look like giant floating purple brains with Tentacles. They sent a single emmisary to earth, where he was met and dissected by Dr Eggman's ancestor, Larry Niven, and Arthur C Clarke. The Xorda's measured response to this was gene-bombing the entire planet wiping out all human life except for a single passenger ship that was in low earth orbit at the time, and crashed into a mountain. These survivors then went on to found Station Square. The animals, conversely, all hyper-evolved into sapient bipedal species to repopulate the planet. Except a few humans survived and were mutated into a form that was 'humans except they have four fingers and are barbarians who hate mobians.' Overlanders eventually went through their industrial revolution and atomic age and were generally dicks to the environment, where as mobians were peaceful and blah blah blah. War were declared. Eventually Princess Sally's dad decided that this stuff was bonkers and challenged the Overlander king to a sword fight, with the losing side surrendering without question. The squirrel-chipmonk beat Conan the Barbarian, and the majority of their race hopped into their spaceships and fled the planet in shame. e: 
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Onmi posted:You mean in the comics? Hm... well technically they're adapting Unleashed NOW and it's good. But the only real adaption they did of a game into the comic was Sonic Adventure, and let me sum up how good it was. The main thing I remember about the Sonic Adventure adaptation was that every other panel the mayor of Station Square had this weirdly blatant "hahaha, they have fallen into my trap" sinister expression and I kept expecting something to actually come of that.
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Davinci posted:Well that's because the crossover wasn't meant to exist in a vacuum and be read as its own thing. It's just a story arc taking place within the stories of the Sonic & Megaman comics. Well, considering that they changed both universes to make it more akin to a crossover of their current game iterations, it's apparent that they were trying to bring in buyers who have only played the games. Combined with the fact that they essentially put story arcs in both universes on hold during the crossover, I think it would make sense to treat the crossover as its own separate thing. Would it really have killed them to show the aftermath for both universes within the crossover itself? Imagine how a kid who read the crossover without prior knowledge of the comics would react to the final panel being Sonic shouting "What did you do?!" to Eggman as everything fades to white. I can see that being quite traumatizing.
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XaviortheSavior posted:Well, considering that they changed both universes to make it more akin to a crossover of their current game iterations, it's apparent that they were trying to bring in buyers who have only played the games. Combined with the fact that they essentially put story arcs in both universes on hold during the crossover, I think it would make sense to treat the crossover as its own separate thing. Would it really have killed them to show the aftermath for both universes within the crossover itself? Imagine how a kid who read the crossover without prior knowledge of the comics would react to the final panel being Sonic shouting "What did you do?!" to Eggman as everything fades to white. I can see that being quite traumatizing. OR, Xavior, if you're trying to set up this crossover to eventually bring people in to READING MORE THAN THE CROSSOVER, you let it end on the cliffhanger so they go "Oh man, I GOT to see what this leads into." and you pick up the next issue. You know if you're trying to run a business model of attracting new readers.
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It also shows the difference between Wily and Eggman. Wily's evil, to be sure. But Eggman's willing to risk the unmaking of existence if it means he gets to stick it to Sonic one last time.
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Well drat, I don't have a comeback for that. I guess there's a reason Omni is the go-to comic guru for this thread. Still, I personally have no interest in reading onward. As I said, not a comic book
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It's also important to note that only Sonic's universe was rebooted. Megaman's remains unaffected with the crossover just being a thing that has happened. Even within the Sonic comic's continuity only the main universe was rebooted. The alternate universe Blaze is from is unrebooted.
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I'm not sure why we're using spoilers, but the very simple explanation for that is that Sonic Rush didn't enter the comic canon until after Penders got ousted. So all the characters from there aren't affected by the Pendembargo. No reason to throw away any characters they didn't have to.
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