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Finally, a show starring people who are missing teeth. A great excuse to buy rum.
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Some of the CGI shots look so amazingly bad that I can't help but wonder if it's actually real? Any water more than a few yards from the ship just looks like something from a playstation 2 video game. I guess that means it's good CGI? I don't know. I like the opening credits but the song feels flat, I was hoping it was just the preview video quality doing it in that sneak peak but it seems to be in the show. I don't think it's fair to compare it to Spartacus just because they're both on Starz but I did like it a lot more than Spartacus' first episode (which really isn't even a compliment). It was probably way too many characters to introduce in a first episode though, going to take a few episodes before I can remember more than a couple of names at best.
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Jan 18, 2014 20:27
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The central conflict was set up really well I thought. Everyone has a different angle and none of it seems particularly contrived other than the gigantic gold ship made of gold carrying all the gold which, I mean, isn't all that bad as far as "macguffin in a pirate show" goes. I'm also glad they killed off the most boring character right in the pilot.
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Jan 18, 2014 20:39
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Digging it. Why? Because no matter how old I get I'm still a loving Lost Boy, and stories about pirates still get me the same way Treasure Island got me when I was a little kid. The way the Spartacus was to 300, Black Sails is to Master and Commander, which is pretty much what I was hoping for: over-the-top violence, boobs, lesbians, and back-stabbing politics. We'll see where it goes, but I think the pilot's a pretty good foundation for awesomeness later on. And I'm vaguely curious to see if it's as progressive as Spartacus was. edit: but Silver and his hair might as well be Jon Snu, which is p. distracting, but whatever Asbury fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Jan 18, 2014 |
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Jan 18, 2014 20:48
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Haven't watch it yet. Comparing it to other Starz shows, how would guys say it stands against Davinci's Demon's? It sound like people are liking this a bit better?
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3Romeo posted:Digging it. Why? Because no matter how old I get I'm still a loving Lost Boy, and stories about pirates still get me the same way Treasure Island got me when I was a little kid. This is pretty much exactly how I feel about the show. I think I'd feel more secure in where it would be going if it were the same minds behind it, but I think Starz understood what it was about Spartacus that made it so much more successful than it should have been (I had to come back to it late in the first season, because, you know, I saw the pilot.), so hopefully it goes in the right direction right from the start. Aside from that, John Silver's face has this real Karl Urban quality to it that I just can't shake, and the 'rum, tobacco, and salt air' pirate rasp some of these people have going made my throat raw by the end of the pilot.
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Jan 19, 2014 00:05
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-Blackadder- posted:Haven't watch it yet. Comparing it to other Starz shows, how would guys say it stands against Davinci's Demon's? It sound like people are liking this a bit better? Davinci's Demons is pretty dire so hopefully this show is better (I haven't seen any of it yet).
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Jan 19, 2014 00:06
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Just watched the show last night and it was great. Really looking forward to it. Maybe I was drunk or something but I think I missed the plot at the end. Can someone explain it to me? So Long Jon Silver had the real map the whole time and Pirate Captain guy pretended to find it in order to trick his crew, but in reality he has no idea where the Spanish treasure ship really is? Is that about right?
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Jan 19, 2014 00:13
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-Blackadder- posted:Haven't watch it yet. Comparing it to other Starz shows, how would guys say it stands against Davinci's Demon's? It sound like people are liking this a bit better? It's not a completely generic and boring hyper observant trope ridden mess so it's naturally much better than DD. I actually enjoyed watching it instead of just going through it being annoyed which was the complete opposite of 90% of Starz's shows.
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Jan 19, 2014 00:17
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GuyDudeBroMan posted:Just watched the show last night and it was great. Really looking forward to it. Maybe I was drunk or something but I think I missed the plot at the end. Can someone explain it to me? So Long Jon Silver had the real map the whole time and Pirate Captain guy pretended to find it in order to trick his crew, but in reality he has no idea where the Spanish treasure ship really is? Is that about right? That's pretty much how I saw things. Flint, at least so far as he's portrayed in the show, wants power. He wants to rule. The fight on the deck was a Hail Mary to claim dominance and buy himself more time.
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GuyDudeBroMan posted:Just watched the show last night and it was great. Really looking forward to it. Maybe I was drunk or something but I think I missed the plot at the end. Can someone explain it to me? So Long Jon Silver had the real map the whole time and Pirate Captain guy pretended to find it in order to trick his crew, but in reality he has no idea where the Spanish treasure ship really is? Is that about right? Yeah I think that's what happened as well. 3Romeo posted:edit: but Silver and his hair might as well be Jon Snu, which is p. distracting, but whatever ughhhhh you're right...
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Jan 19, 2014 03:06
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after having this played on Australian TV every day the past 3 months: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN1AdUCwl_0 all I'm wondering is how Michael Hutchence ended up on a ship
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Jan 19, 2014 04:07
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You're not blackbeard! Oh.
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Jan 19, 2014 04:21
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I liked everything but John
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Jan 19, 2014 06:20
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nooneofconsequence posted:I liked everything but John Same. He's too...quirky? Just seems out of place compared to everything else. Rest was pretty good though.
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Jan 19, 2014 16:53
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I thought it was a decent first episode, my main problem was that there was no one to root for. There should be a reason why we want to follow this crew and have them survive.
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Jan 19, 2014 20:06
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pentyne posted:Other then the gratuitous sex scenes this looks like it'll be a pretty great pirate show. The girl-on-girl scene was A++. Would watch again.
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Jan 19, 2014 20:26
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I havent watched it yet but has no-one else mentioned the fact that the pilot was directed by Neil "Blackwater" Marshall?
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Jan 20, 2014 06:19
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This show is fun and I will definitely be watching it.
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Jan 20, 2014 08:33
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Midnight City posted:Some of the CGI shots look so amazingly bad that I can't help but wonder if it's actually real? Any water more than a few yards from the ship just looks like something from a playstation 2 video game. I guess that means it's good CGI? I don't know.
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Jan 20, 2014 08:36
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GuyDudeBroMan posted:Just watched the show last night and it was great. Really looking forward to it. Maybe I was drunk or something but I think I missed the plot at the end. Can someone explain it to me? So Long Jon Silver had the real map the whole time and Pirate Captain guy pretended to find it in order to trick his crew, but in reality he has no idea where the Spanish treasure ship really is? Is that about right? Long Jon Silver has the missing pages with the route that the treasure galleon is going to take. Flint has the rest of the log book and can recreate the route but he needs the help of someone who knows how the Spanish works which is why he approached the governor. He'll either have to find the guy in Havana or someone else to map out the voyage if he can't get the pages off Jon Silver.
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Jan 20, 2014 10:04
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The show seems promising, but the pilot dragged a bit and would've been better served by introducing some of the more minor characters in the second and third episode instead of jamming them all into the first.
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Jan 20, 2014 10:21
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Kegslayer posted:Long Jon Silver has the missing pages with the route that the treasure galleon is going to take. Flint has the rest of the log book and can recreate the route but he needs the help of someone who knows how the Spanish works which is why he approached the governor. Oh I just remembered he HAS the governor so he'll be able to contact the guy in Havana so he's not completely screwed.
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Jan 20, 2014 13:30
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Seams posted:The show seems promising, but the pilot dragged a bit and would've been better served by introducing some of the more minor characters in the second and third episode instead of jamming them all into the first. Throwing every single character into the first episode is pretty much what most pilots do. I didn't really mind, and it makes sense that a show would want to introduce everyone in the pilot to try and get as many people as possible to get interested in one of the characters and at least tune into the second episode. As for the actual pilot, I really liked it and look forward to the rest of the season. I liked that Flint wasn't just The Good Pirate but seems to have some pretty selfish motivations. Really curious about what they'll do with the plotline about Silver's schedule page and whether that's going to be a season-long secret or if it's just setup to get Vane chasing after Flint's ship after that prostitute talks to Vane's men about what Silver has.
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Jan 20, 2014 13:57
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I really really liked the pilot. Started off a bit slow but then caught up like nuts. Pretty much interested in every character there is. And that fight...awesome. Not Spartacus awesome, but that's a pretty tall order.
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Jan 20, 2014 20:58
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Gotta say, I figured I would love this but I dug it way more than I thought I would. Quirky boy Silver weakest point for me so far. His character feels a bit forced right now. Also, Bear McCreary can be hit or miss for me (way more miss these days) but I absolutely love the intro theme and titles. Another reason to dig into this for me is the showrunner of Jericho and first season of Human Target. Tokubetsu fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Jan 20, 2014 |
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Jan 20, 2014 22:37
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The ladies in this show are rather bad at acting, not to mention their role is basically porn anyway. Wish they hadn't dragged Stevenson's stories into this and made it a little more believable as (original) period piece. Kind of like Vikings if you know what I mean. pigdog fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jan 20, 2014 |
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Jan 20, 2014 22:43
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The guy that plays Flint looks just like a pirate, great casting. Tons of natural charisma and the reddish hue of his facial hair is nice.
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Jan 21, 2014 00:35
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Yeah he's great, and the I AM YOUR KING line was an appropriate blend of crazy/charismatic. In the trailer I thought it kind of fell flat but in the context of the full pilot he nailed it.
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Jan 21, 2014 01:41
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Tokubetsu posted:Gotta say, I figured I would love this but I dug it way more than I thought I would. Quirky boy Silver weakest point for me so far. His character feels a bit forced right now. The pilot was all about setting up John Silver, when you think about it. It had a cardboard cutout temporary antagonist who went after Flint's power directly, through force, and died because of it. That leaves a big character hole: who is going to be the on-ship thorn in Captain Flint's side? Because the hulking antagonist lost his coup attempt and died quite brutally, it sets up the next guy who fills that role to be an indirect threat to Flint's power: sly and opportunistic. Silver was literally handed a magic piece of paper that gives him power and would undermine Captain Flint's authority just by being revealed to the crew. I hate the word, but that positioning means that Captain Flint and John Silver are about to become "frenemies." Sure, it's hamfisted writing crammed into a pilot, but you've got to admire that setup being made to happen so rapidly. I'm not complaining, through. It's a pirate show with Michael Bay's name slapped all over it. It's gonna probably be dumb and laughably bad, but who cares? Heck, threads about flawed TV shows are so much more fun than nitpicking the slight imperfections in stellar shows like Breaking Bad. Who needs a sensible, cerebral plot when you get to watch a pirate king bash out all 32 of a dude's teeth with a loving cannonball punch? What did this symbolize, what were the nuances and emotional undercurrents of this scene? Well, mostly it symbolized that you do not want to gently caress with that captain.
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This was fun, and a lot better than I thought it would be. Can't wait till next week.
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I had no idea this was suppose to be a prequel of sorts to Treasure Island and I feel like an idiot. I suppose I should reread that.
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Jan 21, 2014 04:27
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nature6pk posted:This was fun, and a lot better than I thought it would be. Can't wait till next week. I think next week is that same episode.
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Jan 21, 2014 05:19
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Yeah, they put out the first episode online a week before it's supposed to air for some reason. Episode 2 is coming out Feb. 1st.
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Jan 21, 2014 09:01
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I could have done without the enemy team of pirates, they reminded me of Team Rocket from Pokemon.
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Midnight City posted:I don't want to be a dick but Pain & Gain was one of the only movies I've ever stopped watching half way through. It's not Transformers because that was Michael Bay's unchecked ego (also giant robots), but Pain & Gain was typical of every other Bay movie he's ever directed. I'm sorry you have a terrible taste in movies? Michael Bay is brilliant, and the Transformer movies - though flawed - have some really interesting stuff going on in them. Gonna wait for a while to see the thread reactions before watching this, I think. Comparing it to Spartacus seems a bit early. Yes, that show had gratuitous tits, dicks, sex and violence, but it had those things for a reason and it was really well written, acted and directed.
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I'm mostly amazed how much of the daily life of a pirate they got right. Crewmates medical care is paid for by the ship and control of the ship is normally decided trough democratic means.
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This is really good. Its not Spartacus and I gotta respect that considering how well they've pulled off the pilot.
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kanonvandekempen posted:I could have done without the enemy team of pirates, they reminded me of Team Rocket from Pokemon. I actually thought the other team was more interesting given that we're talking about actual famous historical figures like Vane, Calico Jack/Rackham and Anne Bonny.
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SaltLick posted:I had no idea this was suppose to be a prequel of sorts to Treasure Island and I feel like an idiot. I suppose I should reread that. Come to think of it, spoilers for Robert Louis Stevenson's book are to this show what the historical account of the slave rebellion was for Spartacus. Sunning fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Jan 23, 2014 |
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