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Iorveth. Pretty sure most goons did Roche first anyway, and frankly I think the story works much better if you do Iorveth first. Roche's path would just have confused me if I hadn't known certain things. Also Roche's broness is overrated. There, I said it.
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Roche - Because he was Foltest's bro, and Foltest was the raddest, most owningest motherfucker around. Seriously, we owe it to the man.
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Oct 17, 2013 18:20
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Foltest was also less of a bro than he's given credit for. Geralt was basically conscripted as his bodyguard against his will. Also there's the whole "I hosed my sister and accidentally made a horrible monster babby" thing.
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Oct 17, 2013 18:32
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Tough choice here. Roche has been friendly towards us so far but he is more of a "mission first" kind of guy who takes Geralt's loyalty to Temeria as granted. Not really a bro in that sense. So far Iorveth has been kind of a dick. On the other hand he hasn't demanded anything from Geralt or expected him to remain loyal to some cause. Thus I say go with Iorveth. I actually punched Iorveth here only to return for him later. Storywise it actually worked for me and we'll see later why.
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Oct 17, 2013 18:41
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The Sharmat posted:Foltest was also less of a bro than he's given credit for. Geralt was basically conscripted as his bodyguard against his will. Also there's the whole "I hosed my sister and accidentally made a horrible monster babby" thing. Yeah, but he does it with such style 
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Oct 17, 2013 18:42
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The sign was Kierkegaard and the countersign Heidegger? Incredible.
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Oct 17, 2013 18:45
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inscrutable horse posted:Yeah, but he does it with such style Well I won't dispute that. I could watch him do the absolute monarch thing all day. Norsu posted:I actually punched Iorveth here only to return for him later. Storywise it actually worked for me and we'll see later why. I find the inverse works pretty well too. Though obviously that's not quite how it's meant to go.
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Oct 17, 2013 18:49
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inscrutable horse posted:Yeah, but he does it with such style Foltest is portrayed as the badass king who doesn't really give a poo poo about royal etiquette. It's hard not to like a king who remembers lowly subjects like the arbalest guy and treats them with respect and then outright threatens the sleezy ambassador. I like however that Foltest wasn't perfect and he had questionable morals and family values at times.
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Oct 17, 2013 18:51
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Awesome episode as usual, Vizer. I'd like to go with Iorveth. I mean, if I were playing, I'd go with RPing, and while Roche is a bro, we've struck a deal with Iorveth. I'm not opposed to killing him, but honorably. Right now? He's gotta get his sword back. After that... I'd probably go with Roche.
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Oct 17, 2013 18:54
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Competence and style are just way more likeable than moral virtue. See: Everyone forgetting that one of the very first things Roche does upon being introduced is torturing a priest to death. Not that Iorveth is any better, mind, what with his use of Comanche torture methods and blatant racism.
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Oct 17, 2013 18:55
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I'm gonna go with helping Roche for now. If only because Zoltan doesn't like Iorveth.
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Oct 17, 2013 19:21
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I say go with Iorveth - If it wasn't for Roche not trusting you enough to not tail you into the forest and ruin your trap you would have the kingslayer! On my playthrough I made the decision much later when (Imminent plot spoiler)Triss gets kidnapped and Roche is telling you to run errands for him while Iorveth is all "alright lets go". If you side with Iorveth make sure to remove that tattoo, Anezka (the witch we just helped) sells Green Mold and Wolf's Aloe.(these don't grow in game). Also you mentioned the Grapeshot not being thrown, if you get hit you get knocked out of the throw and when you let go of aim nothing happens. It's annoying as hell 'cos I suck at judging enemy distance and always seem to get hit!
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Oct 17, 2013 19:34
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Iorveth all the way. Roche is always butting in where he doesn't belong.
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Oct 17, 2013 19:41
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Roche got us out of jail and helped us out. I say we owe it to the guy.
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mmtt posted:Roche got us out of jail and helped us out. I say we owe it to the guy. Well he didn't do it as a favor.
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True, but he still took a huge risk putting his neck on the line by giving you the keys and hiding you among the Blue Stripes. He might not have done it out the goodness of his heart but he did trust Geralt's story in the end. Iorveth on the other hand has attempted to kill you twice and is sort of holding you hostage at the moment. Yes, Roche ruined Geralt's plan but from his point of view, Geralt is walking in the forest surrounded by Squirrels after a trap in the clearing.
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Oct 17, 2013 20:09
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lets go with Roche as his end goals seem to involve less potential for wanting our demise.
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VivaVizer posted:Yes, Roche ruined Geralt's plan but from his point of view, Geralt is walking in the forest surrounded by Squirrels after a trap in the clearing. Can't you actually mention that your plan involves Iorveth to Roche and he does this anyway?
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Oct 17, 2013 21:08
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Roche just saved our rear end. Let's give him a hand.
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The Sharmat posted:Can't you actually mention that your plan involves Iorveth to Roche and he does this anyway? Only if you take advantage of the convenient break between Iorveth holding Geralt hostage which I'm pretty sure is there for gameplay reasons and not story reasons. I mean, really, who uses the honor system for hostages? "Yeah, don't mind me. I'm just leaving to get something to eat. I'll be right back after you threatened to kill me. Don't worry about it." I doubt Geralt had Stockholm Syndrome. If that break wasn't there, then it would be a constant forced path from the start of the Arachas fight to what happens next and I doubt people would appreciate that. Sure, I had an easy time with the Arachas but I did all the available bits of EXP and took a Mongoose potion. WhiteHawk posted:I mean, if I were playing, I'd go with RPing, and while Roche is a bro, That definitely is an option in the game but, ultimately, I would rather do Iorveth-Iorveth or Roche-Roche. Yes, Iorveth-Roche and Roche-Iorveth won't break the game or anything but it seems like they wrote the story with Iorveth-Iorveth or Roche-Roche in mind. So I'd rather show what I think is the more optimal two combinations that shows off more of the story content. Though if we take the Iorveth path, I'll have to also remove that tattoo. Might do that off-camera or as a small bonus video or something. I don't think there is a reason to avoid the drunk Blue Stripe side-mission. VivaVizer fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Oct 17, 2013 |
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Oct 17, 2013 22:22
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Iorvath. Normally I don't like to go all species traitor, but I feel like his arc is better overall.
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Oct 17, 2013 23:08
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Iorvith. We haven't really been able to see much of his character, so we may as well give him a chance. At least the Squirrels in this game are markedly better than they were in the original.
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Public Reprimand posted:
This is the absolute worst advice ever  Keep the tatoo fover.That better transfer over to Witcher 3. The Sharmat posted:Foltest was also less of a bro than he's given credit for. Geralt was basically conscripted as his bodyguard against his will. Also there's the whole "I hosed my sister and accidentally made a horrible monster babby" thing. Of the Monarchs actually portrayed in this game he is probably the least bad and is definitely the coolest. Plus Gerlat was basically living the lap of luxury when working for Foltest and to his credit he does let you go after saving his life (several times). And if you actually tell him his assassin was a witcher he is pretty understandable about it. VivaVizer posted:That definitely is an option in the game but, ultimately, I would rather do Iorveth-Iorveth or Roche-Roche. Yes, Iorveth-Roche and Roche-Iorveth won't break the game or anything but it seems like they wrote the story with Iorveth-Iorveth or Roche-Roche in mind. So I'd rather show what I think is the more optimal two combinations that shows off more of the story content. I have no problems with you linking the choices though there is a bit of different dialogue later on down the road if you pick opposites, especially if you go Iorveth-Roche. Iorveth is much less depressed and actually somewhat nice to you
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Oct 17, 2013 23:51
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I say Iorveth. Geralt clearing his name is just the nuisance he needs to get out of the way before pursuing his real mission, which is uncovering the mystery of his past. The scene in the bath pretty much points out how continuing to involve himself in politics is a distraction. The Squirrels may have their political bent, but Roche is a loyalist G-man. Go for the wild and magical, not The Man.
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Oct 18, 2013 00:06
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Let's help Iorveth.
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Iorveth. He didn't gently caress up an attempt to capture the very guy he was looking for. Also his eyepatch is fabulous.
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Oct 18, 2013 00:16
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Roche, because you're not really going to redeem yourself by betraying the only kingdom agent who trusts you. Even if it's not a lot of trust.
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Oct 18, 2013 00:45
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Roche, because Iorveth is the kind of idiot video game revolutionary who's plans are absolutely stupid without a protagonist's overpowered support. Also he seems a bit cliched, while Roche at least has a little more depth than Red Faction: Guerrilla could muster.
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Oct 18, 2013 02:57
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Roche because above all humanity first. Also thisAtomikus posted:Roche, because you're not really going to redeem yourself by betraying the only kingdom agent who trusts you. Even if it's not a lot of trust.
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Oct 18, 2013 03:05
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Going with Roche.
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Oct 18, 2013 03:18
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Roche is a bro. He sprung you from prison, he deserves your help at least this once.
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Iorveth. Five minutes working with the guy and he has Letho caught and surrounded. And Roche, who couldn't do poo poo to catch Letho or Iorveth, fucks it all up. Also, siding with Roche means Keadwen/Henselt absorbs Upper Aedirn and Vergen and gently caress that so much Nissin Cup Nudist fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Oct 18, 2013 |
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Oct 18, 2013 04:40
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I never really got the impression that Geralt was Iorveth's hostage after you convince him to get his men to stand down.Dickey Butts posted:Roche, because Iorveth is the kind of idiot video game revolutionary who's plans are absolutely stupid without a protagonist's overpowered support. What makes you say that? At to the cliche bit...you really haven't seen much of Iorveth yet. I'd say he's roughly as deep as Roche.
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Oct 18, 2013 04:41
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Red Faction: Guerrilla was sort of my example. Completely outclassed underdog rebel group who wants to enact an absurdly unrealistic goal. That said, The Witcher is definitely better written, so I expect more from his character than just being an unrealistic idealist who's wishes can be magically fulfilled, but only with the protagonist's support...but I haven't seen anything else yet of him, so Roche seems like the cooler choice for now.
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Oct 18, 2013 04:59
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Let's go with Iorveth, simply because I don't feel that Roche is that much of a bro.
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Sylphosaurus posted:Let's go with Iorveth, simply because I don't feel that Roche is that much of a bro. That's just hurtful.
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Dickey Butts posted:Red Faction: Guerrilla was sort of my example. Completely outclassed underdog rebel group who wants to enact an absurdly unrealistic goal. That said, The Witcher is definitely better written, so I expect more from his character than just being an unrealistic idealist who's wishes can be magically fulfilled, but only with the protagonist's support...but I haven't seen anything else yet of him, so Roche seems like the cooler choice for now. I hope you're still around when the LP gets to Iorveth's path just because...well, spoilers. fennesz posted:
I maintain that Roche is a bro, just not as big a bro as people make him out to be. (People make him out to be the Biggest Bro, period, so that's not saying a lot)
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Roche, because I find elves and dwarves to be distasteful. 
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Oct 18, 2013 10:07
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Roche, because I've already done Iorveth's path.
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Iorveth, because Roche is an angry dick most of the time.
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