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grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
So I bought the Aridania box since it was on sale and I wanted some random junk to paint, but I'm thinking about getting into this game. Unfortunately the website needed to look all this stuff up is not working!

What else would I have to buy to make this into a playable army? Can I get by with the quickstart rulebook, or do I need to shell out a bazillion dollars for the printed version? And are there legal PDF versions of the rulebook (and army books, I guess) anywhere?

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grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

Pierzak posted:

Which Ariadna box?

@PDFs: You want to go HERE and grab:
Rulebook (full core rules, i.e. everything but fluff/pretty pictures)
Human Sphere and Paradiso Rules (as above, but for the expansions - BUT! these are still from the previous edition yo you'll need the following)
N3 FAQ and N3 Weapons (these patch the expansions to the current edition)
ITS Rules and Missions (once you get bored of straight firefights; these are tournament scenarios)

The official army builder will add necessary stuff like relevant weapon stats and Booty/Meta-Chemistry tables to the PDF list.

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/catalog/product/view/id/47275/s/cvb280007-0540/ The Army Pack box, which I assume means a specific thing.

Are the fluff and pictures worth sixty-some bucks?

And is Operation Icestorm actually worth time and money, or is it a trap like GW starter boxes?

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Thanks for the help, everyone. One last question, the Ariadnans get the big wolf dudes in place of the giant robots everyone else gets, right? As big models = more better, are they actually worth the points or should I start looking at PanO or the Nomads for my robot needs?

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

Pierzak posted:

Tournament's over. Won a few blisters and resin markers, and drew an autographed Icestorm box in a raffle that I have no idea what to do with :v:

Are you in the continental United States, and if so, how much do you want for OIS? :v:

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
More newbie questions.

Availability is a limit on individual models from a listing, right? Is there a point to taking weak low AVA units like USA grunts, or are they just cheap ways to buy Orders?

Please tell me how I'm going to screw up AROs.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
If all I want is the fluff, am I going to miss anything by snagging the N2 rulebook on the cheap?

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

Pierzak posted:

Yes. You're going to miss the Human Sphere and Campaign Paradiso :v:

If you mean missing stuff compared to core N3, nah you'll miss very little.

Yeah, but those cost more than twenty bucks. :v:

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Insufficiently jewel-like, wondrous.

Tell me about the Space French. They seem pretty hard-hitting for Ariadnians, they have easy access to X-visors, and they look pretty cool.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Redone as in new rules or redone as in new sculpts?

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Those are all rad as gently caress.

So, for those in the US, Miniature Market has put a large part of their Infinity selection on sale, including OIS for 55 bucks, the USAriadna starter box for fifty, and the rulebook for 35.

Somewhat related, are the PanO Bolts any good? Because I own a lot of them now, apparently.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Thread, I have a problem. I don't play PanO, but I keep buying their poo poo.

Somewhat related, how useful is the Angel painting book on its own merits? 'cause I keep looking at that Joan sculpt and thinking spendy thoughts.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

WAR FOOT posted:

Honestly, not very? Unless you already own an excellent airbrush setup and have at least an intermediate knowledge of how to airbrush, and how to use airbrush technical liquids, it's not really worthwhile.

Thanks. That's more money I can put to other tiny lead men I don't need!

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
For the little fiddly parts, yeah, unfortunately. Green stuff is a necessary purchase if you're anal retentive about your tin army men.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Is a pair of Geckos a worthwhile investment of points? I had a terrible idea for painting a set, but I can't think of any other regular instance I'd use two TAGs.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
I think somebody in the X-wing thread mentioned the trick to taping lines for your minis. You paint over the tape and the area you're about to do with the base color, then go over it with the color you actually want in the taped-off area. That keeps the second layer of paint from bleeding out under the tape. For a caution stripe, you'd paint a big bar of yellow, tape off for the black bars, paint yellow around the tape edge, then do the black segments over the whole thing.

Might be a little too big for Infinity figures themselves, but it should work nicely on terrain and bases.

On the subject of arts and crafts, I was thinking I'd try magnetizing my bases and carrying my junk around stuck on the inside of a metal toolbox. Somebody in this thread had that idea way back when, and I was wondering if it held up. If so, what kinda magnets did you use?

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
This is the first list I've made that's more complex than "get as close to 300 points of PanO as I can." General plan is to have the MBs linked and attacking things while the Tomcats go hunt objectives. Tell me all the things I did wrong.

Jurisdictional Command of Corregidor
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

Group 1 8 0 0
MOBILE BRIGADA HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 42)
MOBILE BRIGADA MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (39)
MOBILE BRIGADA MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (39)
ALGUACIL Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12)
ALGUACIL Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10)
ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)

Group 2 1 0 0
INTRUDER (X-Visor) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 43)

Group 3 5 0 0
DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (14)
TOMCAT Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (20)
TOMCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (22)
ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)

5 SWC | 299 Points

Open with Army 5

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Okay. It seems like my only option for MB specialist is a hacker, so I'll probably swap out the Alguacil for the MB version.

I had thought about replacing the Tomcats with their Bandit equivalent for the camouflage, but I have a stupid question: is there an actual model for the things? Part of why I'm putting this together is to make myself a shopping list.

Failing that, to get more MSVs in play, would I be better served taking a couple of lower-grade Intruders?

Finally and most shameful, I know nothing about remotes, other than you need a hacker or a TAG to run them. What are they for, what are they good at, all that good stuff.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

Not a viking posted:

Note that they are getting re-done in the near (6 months?) future. CB is re-releasing Paradisio and Human Sphere IIRC, and MRRF isn't part of it.

Is there any specific place they've been announcing what's getting a makeover? I'm eyeballing a bunch of stuff that uses older models, and I'd rather not put money down on something that gets a resculpt announced two months later.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
One of my Bolts was missing his dumb devil horns. Do I go to their general contact address or their store support, even though I bought it from a third-party retailer?

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Yeah, got my little code and everything.

Thanks, guys!

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
In terms of pure novelty and production value, how's the artbook?

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
What exactly is the use case for ORCs? A dozen more points gets me an Aquila with better stats and MSV3, or a few more points than that for a Swiss Guard. Those things do stuff, instead of sit there and be the most vanilla HI.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
YJ is getting harder and harder not to pick up, what with all the HI and motorcycles available.

Pretty yawn about Hector, though. Call me when they release Odysseus. Now there's a Greek I can get behind! :v:

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Don't worry! I'm sure Svalarheims will be entirely different and not a collection of the same stat blocks wearing trenchcoats!

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
That reminds me, how old are the Riot Grrls' sculpts and are they on the block for a possible resculpt? I was holding off on FRRM until HS3, just in case, but I can't see Bakunin getting touched any time soon.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
I am always up for hearing about other people's tournaments.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
New Umbra looks an awful lot like a Waramahordes mini.

ineptmule posted:

This is a bit of a long shot I expect but I've essentially decided that if I get back into Infinity I want to do so with the epically amazing new sculpts. This means I have a fair chunk of four factions which are all older sculpts that I can't bring myself to use when the new versions are so much nicer.

Will anyone be wanting to buy the older ones? I'd be surprised but you never know...

I might, depending on what you've got and how much you're asking. I don't think anyone's going to report you if you post what you've got and prices. Geographic location would also probably be a good idea.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
With three USARF boxes, you could always go for the comedy option of three devil dog teams and three Mavericks. Smoke everywhere your first turn! :v:


Arrgytehpirate posted:

I'm gonna head down to my LGS this weekend to confirm that some people play this, but I think I want to at least paint some Yu Jing. The models look insane.

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/catalog/product/view/id/33619/s/cvb280301-0008/

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/catalog/product/view/id/33650/s/cvb280337-0207/

Which one of those should I get? The green sword guy in the second one looks awesome, but I feel the original starter might be better to learn.

Also, is this the current rulebook? http://www.miniaturemarket.com/catalog/product/view/id/42448/s/cvb289503/

The JSA box is for a subfaction, the Japanese Sectorial Army. Sectorials limit your possible choices, but you get bonuses like higher availability for some models as well as the fireteam rules, which let you use multiple models in one order. It's not a bad faction, but they're definitely on the lighter, sneakier side as opposed to the regular Imperial Service YJ army.

That is the current rulebook, but if you like, you can get the entire ruleset for free from here: http://infinitythegame.com/archive.php

The physical copy is two books, one of which is the rules and some (but not all) model profiles, and one is just fluff. If you want the fluff, you'll need the book.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Now seems like a good time to ask if HSN2 came with a ridiculous preorder mini.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
So I bought a bunch of poo poo in the Minimarket sale a little while back. One of the things I got was Dire Foes 2.

I can't be the only one who wants to turn the engineering officer's leg into the lamp from A Christmas Story, right?

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
RAW says "...and one [use] is expended every time you declare its use, regardless of the success or failure of the Roll involved." I read it as one use is expended every time you declare, rather than every time you roll.

That "feels" pretty weird, though, so I look forward to getting corrected.

E: Forgot the other part. Thanks again for posting your plays, Genghis. It's nice seeing someone who knows what they're really doing using Corregidor. Some day I'll stop sucking!

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Which Joan did you grab? There's three models out there.

Y'know, if you're really serious about Joan and the boys, you could go full MO. Order Sergeants can be infiltrating TO specialists.

And everything with MO has such a high points cost! Surely that would mean it's a cheap cash-wise army. And if it was so cheap, why, you could get a Seraph, oh, and a bunch of remotes, those are great to pad out your order pool, and...

Welcome to my hell.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

BattleMaster posted:

I still have yet to finish painting and assembling this list (and I've been busy this semester) so it's untested but I can't wait to use it. Aside from Ice Storm stuff it needs Seraph, the Military Orders starter, and the Spitfire Order Sergeant. It follows the "TAG makes a scene while infiltrating camouflaged minelaying specialists do the work" model that I also like to do with Bakunin.
[MO list]

I'm not sure I'll ever be brave enough to actually run a 10-order list, but I like to dream.

What's your experience with your TAG surviving shenanigans versus just treating it as written off from the start?

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Army updated to v6. They finally realized it's easier to run client-side instead of server-side. Hooray!

Lots of graphical glitches, though.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
I really wanna know more about Onyx, but I also really don't want to start another loving army.

Historically, how long has it taken CB to go from pre-order to fulfillment?

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
End of March, beginning of April.

I'm wondering if they're doing a small batch for the convention, or they're taking pre-orders to sell out the rest of that lot and doing a second run for the regular sales.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

WAR FOOT posted:

Eh, makes a good Bounty Hunter. I've already got two, painted like Spike and Jett. She can be painted like Faye.

Can't be Faye, she's wearing too much clothing.

Man, never thought I'd say that about a CB model. :v:

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Where specifically on Minimarket? I've been checking the site half the day and didn't find anything.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Here's something to consider: basic Imperial Service Yu Jing is going to get some updates across the board with the new release. You could start JSA with much less fear of obsoleting your models in a month or two, and also because of the best reason to take JSA, which is access to a shitload of totally sweet bikes.

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grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

Bob Smith posted:

a really oddball list with two CSUs and a tooled up Bolt link and only one HI, an Aquila Guard.

Bob Smith posted:

(a stunning display of Pan O engineering saw it revived three times throughout the game),

Since we've got you on the phone direct from Bizarro World, how's Age of Sigmar selling over there?

Still, congratulations on nuking an entire link team in one shot. Bet that felt pretty good.

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