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Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

New guy here planning to purchase my first army:

YU JING
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GROUP 1

0

INVINCIBLE Lieutenant MULTI Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (42)
KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (9)X
KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (9)X
KEISOTSU Combi Rifle+ Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)X
KEISOTSU HMG / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
GŬIL�NG MULTI Sniper Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 39)X
NINJA Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 48)
Ya�k�ng W�IBĪNG Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (21)
Ya�k�ng H�S�NG HMG + E/M Light Grenade Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1 | 35)
IMPERIAL AGENT MULTI Rifle / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (61)

4 SWC | 296 Points

Open with Army 4

Any obvious holes I have in the army? I already have the minis marked with X plus the second GŬIL�NG and KEMPEITAI. Otherwise I'am pretty wide open for suggestions.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2013 07:07

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 13:32

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

I do want to have an option to run Japanese-only list in future, but I kinda liked the look of Guilangs.

Changed the invicible to SJ-I & ordered some minis. I'll have to fine-tune the list as soon as I've faced my opponents Space-scots & Nomads.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2013 19:40

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Rules question about hacking:
Can you use all short-skill hacking as an ARO? TAG shoot your hacker & he tries to immobilize the TAG?
If true: Can you defensive hack against ARO-hacking, even in your active turn, or is that ARO only?

# ¿ Apr 5, 2014 20:45

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Cyclomatic posted:

drat, that's fine looking dude!

# ¿ Oct 13, 2014 08:21

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

JoshTheStampede posted:

I also find the BoW videos super condescending because Killian just repeats and restates everything Carlos says and it really comes off as translating for a dude who is already speaking English.

But Carlos Spanglish is really lovely? Respects for you, if you can understand his accent without trouble.
I needed the translations to really understand he was saying.

# ¿ Oct 14, 2014 23:32

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Fix posted:

Are you no longer able to lay mines during deployment?

Minelayer-special rule allows that, but it isn't in Main rulebook. It's from the Human Sphere, so currently only guys without 3rd edition rules have it.

It might get removed/changed when the update.pdf:s come, but until then, it works exactly same as in 2nd edition.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2015 22:02

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Are they actually that bad? You can pretty much awaken 4 of them with a command + order token. Or just let them be order-monkeys for the first turn.

# ¿ Jan 18, 2015 05:17

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Fix posted:

What's the thought on ninjas now? Any different way to use them? How have they been affected by N3 in general?

They're really cheap and ok in CC.
Just don't be an idiot like me and try to shoot with the Tactical Bow. :v:

# ¿ Jan 19, 2015 01:52

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Fix posted:

what happened?

She comes out of the the shadows running towards the unsuspecting doctor.
2nd order, a Surprise shot with a bow (both miss)
3rd order, still misses
4th order, throws the bow away and shoots pistol (gets killed by the doctors combi-rifle)

I probably should have just used the 2nd order to get into cc.

Now this wasn't even the worst part of the game. My opponent had Heavy grenade Launcher TAG, but It was badly protected. So I started first turn with a 3-woman Karakuri linked team doing assassination run. They eliminated few lone fusiliers and got within 8 inches of the monstrosity. I used a command token to shoot everyones DEP:s at it (15 or less). Everyone misses.

Issaries fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jan 19, 2015

# ¿ Jan 19, 2015 18:15

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

I highly recommend the magnets. This is my setup:

An 8 euro metallic toolbox, some greenstuff and superglue and lots of magnets.

Really easy way to trasnport dudes.

Issaries fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jan 19, 2015

# ¿ Jan 19, 2015 18:28

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

(not mine)

On left there's Terracotta soldier, a new ARM 3, budget-priced HI. 35mm without base
On right there's Shang-Ji Invincible, a Classic ARM 4, Average costed HI. 28mm without base

# ¿ Jan 27, 2015 03:54

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Exmond posted:

Hey I had a question about AROs, typically where the model is when they trigger.

Lets say I have a Father-Knight captain facing against 2 doods. Lets say they are in an open field and both doods have los to him. He spends his first order moving into base to base with dood A. Second action to attack.

How would the AROs play out? Would dood A be able to do a BS attack? At the start of the move action dood A wasn't engaged. Would dood B be able to make a BS attack even though the Father-Knight captain is engaged with dood A?

In addition to others answers:
Doods have to declare their ARO:s after Father-knights does his move and you can decide your second half of the order knowing what their ARO:s are. In this example you could do the CC-attack against one guy or you could shoot and distribute your burst between them. Or if the one of the doods ending up in CC-range decides to dodge, you could just shoot the one not dodging and hope that the dodger fails.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2015 20:48

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

I wouldn't even bother with using forward observing with that gimmick team.
You'll have to spend 1-2 orders for each targeted result and risk losing those orders permanently from AROs.
I'd just take the -6 to hit and shoot 6 times each turn. It still works on 9 or less and is much less risky.
FO:s are pretty useful for completing missions after you crush your enemies.

# ¿ Feb 11, 2015 04:57

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Now that is a great gun. Much better version than the one Azra'il is carrying.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2015 00:22

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Flipswitch posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xue-Du3Yl0U
Kum enforcers lmao.

I think the new thread title could be Muslims with Midriffs

Butt-Kum Biker is dead. Long live Boob-Kum Bikers!

# ¿ Feb 18, 2015 18:34

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

My gaming group does this. Much easier than crosschecking opponents army-section and asking one by one: "what EQ this guy has?"

Its based on open knowledge anyway.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2015 11:10

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Flipswitch posted:

Yeah basically, iirc it falls under points costs which aren't public info either. Ill get the rule checked for you.

I'm not that familiar with other armies, but All Yu Jing lieutenant options share the same weapon/skill bundle with another figure that isn't lieutenant.
Basically every experienced player (or those who checks it during the game), should know which of the non-camo figures on the table are potential ~~targ~~ lieutenants.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2015 11:41

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Flipswitch posted:

The answer from our SuperModerator is; No, which is why SWC/Points Costs are considered private info.

You can still look it up in advance if you want, or even during a game really, but that's kind of being a dick in a casual game and in competitive you'll just clock yourself out soo.

Where do you pull swc/point costs into it? Issue has nothing to do with that.

Quick example from army4:

JAPANESE SECTORIAL ARMY
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GROUP 1

2

KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife.
KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife.
KEISOTSU Combi Rifle+ Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife.
KEISOTSU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife.
YURIKO ODA Combi Rifle, Panzerfaust, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CCW.
ARAGOTO Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife.
ARAGOTO Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife.
NINJA Combi Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW.

I haven't marked the lieutenant in above list.
From above selection of models, first 2 keisotsus could be lieutenant, 3 & 7 have weapon, 4 has skill that lieutenant cannot have. 5 and 8 don't have ltn. option. 6 could be lieutenant.
Every player is capable of deducing this from your models.

All of the above is based on open information and IMHO is within the spirit of sharing open information with your opponent.

Of course, if your only legal option on the table is single Keisotsu with combi-rifle, it is pretty obvious to even newbies.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2015 13:54

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Flipswitch posted:

Because some models cost SWC to be Lts.

That's beside the point. Question is shorthand for: Which models in the table have same name, open equipments and open skills as the valid lieutenants options for your army. You don't need any private information to deduce that.

Edit: And if I remember correctly: If something isn't explicitly private information, it is open information.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2015 14:04

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Cool. We prefer our more casual style. No need to memorize opponents data, when we can just ask.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2015 14:29

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

It will probably be the longest first turn followed by very short 2nd and 3rd turns.

Adding Impetuous Smoke Grenade-dudes (daturazi/Oznat) might protect them on your turn, but you'd still need to add regular orders for them to reach the enemy. Currently they get 2 orders each, which doesn't get them anywhere.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2015 08:38

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

They'll be eating 1-2 ARO shots per order. More if there's Total Reaction or suppressive fire guys on the table.
As they all home into closest enemy, they tend to clump together. In these conditions explosive is a liability. When they go unconscious to an ARO, they'll take their comrades with them. a Massive chain-reaction even!

But good luck for the try. Your best change is that your opponent doesn't know what to do with millions of hungries facing them.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2015 09:12

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

BTW: Is there any Regular+Impetious troops with AVA:TOTAL that could make this kind of list to work?

Most of these Impetious fodders are either irregulars or have limited AVA.

Closest I know are Kuang Shi:s for ISS and they're AVA:8, which isn't enough.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2015 09:19

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Sounds good, even if they cost a lot. I've only faced 4 at a time and they were pretty scary.

16 Daturazi = 224

Which would leave 76 points for 3 specialists to complete missions and 1 ltn.
Probably doable and there would be 36 orders to use.

I'm tempted to proxy this out and die gloriously for the Morat Aggression Force.

EDIT: Or just add maximum of 4+4 hungries for 40p and forego mission specialists!

Issaries fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Mar 1, 2015

# ¿ Mar 1, 2015 09:48

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Link? We'll have to wait for the Acheron Falls for that.

I'm not that experienced, but I've used the HMG-version as suppressive fire-guy.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2015 18:42

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

I can't guesstimate the deployment zones, but does the closer half have enough terrain on deployment zone to hide most troops?

Maybe add a container or something on top of the "Designed for Infinity" text.

# ¿ Mar 3, 2015 15:21

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

LumberingTroll posted:

Where can I find the human sphere and paradiso n3 errata?

There's only the general Errata, which mostly left old rules unchanged & new weapon and troop profiles pdfs.
http://www.infinitythegame.com/archive.php

Did you want the Human Sphere/Campaign Paradiso rules?
http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/downloads/ -> rules -> english and "Human Sphere � Rules" & "New Rules (Updated 06/04/2014)"

# ¿ Mar 6, 2015 17:24

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Pierzak posted:

Yes, the main point of the dude's business on the forums is to break up new boxes and sell the minis separately.
The second KSCD is for when you want to run 8 Kuang Shis and want to split them into separate combat groups.

Or just want a 2nd Light Smoke Grenade Launcher.

# ¿ Mar 14, 2015 05:27

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

http://www.firestormgames.co.uk/clearance-sale#20 seems to clearing out their old Infinity-models. Mostly -50% off.
Someone can score themself a full set of Kum-unicycles or older Fusiliers.

# ¿ Apr 6, 2015 19:13

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

This might be a long shot: I'll be visiting Edinburgh next week. Does anyone know, if there's a FLGS there that carries Infinity-miniatures?

My local FLGS (@ Oulu, Finland) doesn't carry Infinity and I'd like to ~~look at~~ buy all of them.

# ¿ Apr 18, 2015 20:05

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

It depends on the Multispectral Visors level and it deals with other things too (like visibility zones & Smoke Grenade Special Dodges).

Page 139 explains what it does really well.

# ¿ May 17, 2015 15:23

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

PaintVagrant posted:

Cool. I definitely am not experienced enough in N3 to have any idea how powerful it is, but on paper it sounds amazing and I didnt want to be taking advantage of some sort of loophole that would be closed later via a FAQ or something.

Suppressing Fire is great, but has some weaknesses the opponent can exploit. It has to be set up outside of Line of Fire, or enemy will shoot you straight. It only has the range of 24", so Long range Snipers / HMG can force you to abandon SF or eat bullets.

# ¿ May 22, 2015 06:13

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

The phrase just means that it is not same as the dodge rule. It is fully explained on that smoke ammunition page you were on.

# ¿ May 27, 2015 18:34

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

That depends on the mission description:

On 2 Rulebook missions, they specifically say that either a Miniature or Marker counts. (Armory, Supremacy)

Nimbus Zone on other hand it specifically says that only models can control consoles, not markers.

If you are talking about a Third-party missions/scenarios, it could go either way.

# ¿ Jun 17, 2015 22:18

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

I'm glad to see that Janissaries don't discriminate against height-limited people. :haw:

But seriously, I hope that 3 man box means that the awesome AP-rifle version wont go OOP.

# ¿ Jun 30, 2015 12:41

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Corbeau posted:

Welp, pack it in. Back to wondering why this box was necessary.

It is a viable 5-person link team option for the Qapa Khalqi, that didn't have enough models previously.
With 2-3 Hafza:s it is really budget conscious option.

# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 02:37

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Flipswitch posted:

i quite like having options that aren't limited to spec ops and an ava 1 machinist who is wip12 but that's just me

Non-Panoceanian players are happier, when you have some weaknesses.

# ¿ Jul 10, 2015 12:32

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Low-grade specialists are always hilarious, when they fail.
Whether it is Nomad paramedic desperately trying to hit the unconcsious OD-guy with her medi-gun,
or Panocenian Doctor detaching Swissguards head after using 2 re-rolls.

# ¿ Jul 10, 2015 14:02

Issaries: Sep 15, 2008; "Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

No love for Keisotsu Yuriko Oda? When I'm running JSA-sectorial, she's my pointwoman of the Keisotsu Link-team.
+2BS, Engineer, Minelayer & Panzerfaust are all useful additions for the link/army and she's only 10 points more than a Regular Engineer.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2015 21:20

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