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He talks about the MC in Ressentiment being a kind of self insert, even to the point of drawing him as a mangaka at the end in a footnote but that's just ridiculous.
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Sep 17, 2013 18:50
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I just go to chapter 11 without reading anything about this manga just like you said. I expected something but it sure as hell wasn't that.
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Sep 17, 2013 19:27
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Kinda wanna see Hanazawa's girlfriend now. What are the odds of her looking like Tekko, the new girl, or of Tekko looking like an ex?
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Sep 17, 2013 21:55
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nerdz posted:since after Inio Asano revealed he is transgender Hahaha wait, what? When the hell did this happen?  That's glorious.I've been holding off on reading Oyasumi Punpun because I wanted to binge through all of it once it's done. Hopefully Asano'll fill the hole Shimura left behind when she ended Wandering Son (and make it dark as gently caress  ).
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Sep 17, 2013 22:07
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NotAnArtist posted:This whole thing reminds me of Stephen King's novel Cell, which had the "zombies" slowly evolve from mindless, animalistic monsters to psychic terrors. Not entirely the same thing, I understand, but the parallel is there. I'm looking forward to learning more, but I'm curious as to the whole "kurusu" arc; the children/young adults behind it, are they going to be just another cult? Vol 12: Yeah, the last volume with the idea of a Kurusu is very, very similar to the Raggedy Man. Looks like there are some sort of people who can control dens of zombies as well. I sort of like that! I know Cell wasn't the best novel, but I really enjoyed it.
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Sep 18, 2013 02:56
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Pollyanna posted:Hahaha wait, what? When the hell did this happen? Honestly, it doesn't surprise me at all. All the angst seen in Oyasumi Punpun certainly reminded me of closeted trans-life.  Looking forward to something insane and awesome.
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Sep 19, 2013 07:36
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Speaking of Shimua, is she starting anything new? Both Wandering Son and Aoi Hana just ended at almost the same time (or at least their scans did).
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Sep 19, 2013 07:59
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This series makes me uncomfortable as all get out but I can't stop reading it (except now, because there are no new chapters).
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Sep 22, 2013 03:33
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I took the advice in the OP and read the first volume. Kind of pressed for time right now, but (spoilers for first volume ahead): I'm blown away. The art is ridiculous. So much detail in almost every page. I found myself staring at certain images for ages - particularly the shots in his and Tekko's apartments. The time and effort that went into this puts just about every other manga I've read (not many, admittedly) to shame. The pacing and foreshadowing is also fantastic. I'm not generally a fan of 'zombie' fiction, or even the recent trend of disaster fiction, but the set up for this - the gradual escalation and encroachment of dread - is spot-on, mainly due to the excellent early characterisation that goes into the main relationship with Tekko, which was adorable and relatable. I'd honestly like a manga just about their lives as mangakas with none of the supernatural stuff. That's what makes the supernatural stuff acceptable to me in this, though. At the moment I'm trying to decide whether to move onto the next volume immediately or just stop here while I still love it. If the manga becomes about shooting monsters I'm not all that interested. gently caress me, though, what a first volume.
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Sep 23, 2013 11:00
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It is much more than just shooting monsters. In fact, it makes a point of people NOT shooting monsters because A: they think they're still people and B: there aren't really guns there. It's Japan. It's much more interesting than most zambie stories.
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Sep 23, 2013 16:56
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Edit: gently caress STUPID PHONE
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Sep 23, 2013 16:57
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Captain Invictus posted:It is much more than just shooting monsters. In fact, it makes a point of people NOT shooting monsters because A: they think they're still people and B: there aren't really guns there. It's Japan. It's much more interesting than most zambie stories. Vol 8: Though when shooting monsters finally does happen it is loving amazing.
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Sep 23, 2013 21:55
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I followed the OPs advice and yeah, this is pretty good. I would probably not even have suspected ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE if not for the very "generic"/realistic artstyle and more importantly: Main character owning a gently caress-off shotgun... in Japan, at that. Still, very well done and way better than how this is usually done. Kinda got draggy with some of the side stories later on, however, and the pacing seem to have slowed to a crawl compared to the first couple of volumes which were just crazy.
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Sep 24, 2013 21:05
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I binged this and holy poo poo is basically all I have to say. More volumes, please. Wooah.
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Sep 24, 2013 22:06
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Agreed posted:I binged this and holy poo poo is basically all I have to say. More volumes, please. Wooah. You should read Ressentiment and Boys on the Run, both by the same author.
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Sep 24, 2013 23:53
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Yeah, add me to the "read the first volume, binged the rest almost instantly." I've felt really burnt out on zombies, but goddamn if this manga didn't instantly catch me. It takes the zombie apocalypse premise and actually makes it scary. That first three page spread is loving terrifying and I can't wait for more.
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Sep 25, 2013 06:25
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Captain Invictus posted:You should read Ressentiment and Boys on the Run, both by the same author. I think people can skip Ressentiment. I don't think it's worth reading.
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Sep 25, 2013 12:45
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Well I say the opposite, and think it IS worth reading. NYAH. But more seriously, while it is not perfect and is definitely apparent as his first series, the only seriously rough stuff is that the ending really feels rushed. It just starts moving really quickly all of a sudden and ends just as abruptly. Though overall it is really, truly, wonderfully cynical. The "protagonist" (ending spoilers) managing to gently caress up his one really good chance right at the end and winds up 45, alone, and running his parents' bento shop after blowing it with Maria. Instead of realizing that he's got a wonderful girl right in front of him, that is flesh and blood, but throws it away for the fake one. Otherwise it's a pretty excellent and grim story of escapism, denial, and terrible people. Because Takuro is kind of a lovely person when all is said and done. Also, that reveal is a complete loving masterstroke. Like, really. It is so amazing.
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Sep 25, 2013 13:47
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Captain Invictus posted:Well I say the opposite, and think it IS worth reading. NYAH. What I like about the ending is that Takuro is shown as a loser who is a loser not because of circumstance but because he is inherently a terrible person. He said before that the reason he's a fat and terrible is because he had no one to root for him, cheer for him, and to be the crutch for him to better himself. He got that in Maria. But instead he still stayed as a terrible person, unable to change himself. Other than that, the part with the Americans involved is too goofy and totally off beat. Also, RIP Reinhart. Dude's a hero, even if he's a creeper.
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Sep 25, 2013 15:42
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Another binger here, the scanlations are up to a pretty awesome temporary stop point right now. This has a very good sense of scaling up the action as it goes, doesn't have the issue of having to top its own ridiculousness or anything like that. Very much enjoyed it so far.
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Sep 25, 2013 20:22
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Read like 30 chapters of Boys on the Run last night and I have to say I like it more than I am a Hero. Even though every character is just completely deplorable, especially Tanishi, I really want to see how this trainwreck plays out. I guess that is just the best way to describe it, it is a trainwreck starting from chapter 1.
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Sep 25, 2013 21:19
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CH 62: Wow, I really like how they handled zombie Hiromi. It kinda reminds me of Valve's "Meet the Pyro" video, except more brutal, more horrifying, and much more fascinating. Is she somehow still semi-conscious of her actions and is knowingly helping out Hideo and the cameraman? Or is this just some weird mental translation and she isn't consciously trying to be helpful? This manga is the perfect alternative to The Walking Dead in just about every way. e: Ch63: "Shinji-kun, I'll protect you." Huh, maybe she is conscious of it. ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Sep 25, 2013 |
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Sep 25, 2013 23:21
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Had a weird as gently caress dream that, come to think of it, was rather I Am A Hero inspired. Spoilered just because: so it started off with me, my mother, roommate, and friend in our house a couple weeks after the ~zombie apocalypse~ began, and there were two neighbor zombies at the front door who wouldn't go away. They were clearly dead already, so I decided to just finish them off in case they wore the door down along with their fingers. Grabbed a huge icebreaker we have(basically a 40 pound spear of metal) and just clobbered them with it after I had mom open the door, but one of them clawed my leg as they fell. I was basically "well, I'm infected, gently caress" and hugged everyone, said "I'm going to go lock myself in an abandoned house downtown, if a cure or something is found, come get me" and started walking down the road. I met a few survivor groups scrounging for food and stuff and just told'em what was going on, I could slowly feel control of my body slipping away until the last group I met I was slurring my words and it was hard to move my jaw and my vision was a bit blurry and tinged by red, but I was fighting to keep some semblance of consciousness. I found a small abandoned house with mostly reinforced barred up windows, clearly a former safe house, and locked myself inside. It had a small second floor that was partially open to the weather, apparently the survivors used the wood and stuff from the second floor to reinforce the first, but put barbed wire and stuff to cover up the holes there. The first floor had TV(there was still electricity here), two couches, and a chair, the kitchen was bare but I felt I wouldn't be needing it anyways. I fell asleep on the couch despite my best efforts and woke up around twilight, maybe that day, maybe a few days from then. I was wrestling for control of my body and my consciousness felt like it was floating in a cloud, but I could still see things. I slowly unlocked the door and shuffled outside, I walked towards the road and looked around. I heard a scream as a pair of survivors were beset on by a few hairless zombies that looked a lot like zombie Gollums, and after they were finished one of the Gollum-zombies turned to me and started running at me extremely fast. He jumped and landed on my front, about to tear me apart, when he realized I was another infected and started mumbling crazy-talk to me all excitedly. I couldn't understand it, but he then heard a sound and dashed off into the darkness, I then saw a train come barreling through the center of the road and was wondering if I was hallucinating. I shuffled back "home" and locked the door again, barely acknowledging I was pale, bleeding from some places with very visible veins and moving like I was swimming through some thick liquid. I walked into the living room and saw that the lights were on, the TV was going, and mom, my roommate and friend were all sitting and laughing at what was on TV! I quickly(slowly) ran over and sat down on the empty couch to watch with them, happy to be together again even though it was logically impossible for them to be there. Suddenly another voice next to me started talking to me, I looked over and my sister was there! She grinned and said "hey, you should see what I've had for dinner upstairs. It's interesting." I didn't know what she meant, but I mumbled out "what are you doing here, Katie? You've been dead for six years..." and suddenly the room was cold, dark, and empty except for me and her. "Katie? I'm not Katie, I'm the infection...I really think you should go upstairs and take a look at what I've been eating..." it said with a far-too-wide, rotting grin. I started awkwardly, stiffly climbing the stairs, and right as I got to the top...my alarm went off. Welp
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Oct 4, 2013 19:06
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That's actually a pretty cool dream. Thanks for sharing it.
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Oct 8, 2013 13:04
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I just binged through this fucker and holy loving poo poo.
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Oct 10, 2013 03:43
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coreycoryecorey posted:Read like 30 chapters of Boys on the Run last night and I have to say I like it more than I am a Hero. Even though every character is just completely deplorable, especially Tanishi, I really want to see how this trainwreck plays out. I guess that is just the best way to describe it, it is a trainwreck starting from chapter 1. Yeah I just sped through Boys on the Run and the fact that it's so close to finished is killing me
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Oct 11, 2013 09:50
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NotAnArtist posted:I don't read too much in the way of manga any more, but this is pretty interesting. I'm used to the protagonists having at least one or two redeeming qualities, but these folks are pretty reprehensible, which, for the most part, makes them more relatable. Just chewing through chapter 16 now, and the one thing that impresses me most is the artwork, which is phenomenal. I dunno, Hideo is a creep, a weirdo and morally kind of a bad person but I think it'd be a little extreme to call him completely rehensible. I mean he takes firearm laws very seriously.  Captain Invictus posted:I assume it has something to do with this "grand master plan" with the infected, such as them heading south. Honestly I don't even know if I'd call them zombies anymore, because they are far more cognizant than your stereotypical shambler/runner now. Zombies were originally very much conizant back when they were characterized as revenants.
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Oct 12, 2013 01:53
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Binged trough every scanlation today and *volume 12* I can't say I'm thrilled that the manga has moved from the horrifying and sad stuff in the 3-4 volumes into "infected grows long hair, does flips in the air and has knife fights in their underwear". The manga was pretty much perfect until Hiromi got infected (that drawing of her in the car was haunting) but I feel it's been getting progressively worse. The zombies' recent behavior is pretty interesting though. Perhaps they are supposed to replace ordinary humans? I do wonder how the manga would have turned out if it had stayed with the romance/drama with a supernatural twist angle instead of going the Walking Dead in Japan - now with half naked knife-fights and a super-strong-not-really-a-zombie school-girl.
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Oct 13, 2013 00:02
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Renoistic posted:Binged trough every scanlation today and *volume 12* I can't say I'm thrilled that the manga has moved from the horrifying and sad stuff in the 3-4 volumes into "infected grows long hair, does flips in the air and has knife fights in their underwear". The manga was pretty much perfect until Hiromi got infected (that drawing of her in the car was haunting) but I feel it's been getting progressively worse. The zombies' recent behavior is pretty interesting though. Perhaps they are supposed to replace ordinary humans? I do wonder how the manga would have turned out if it had stayed with the romance/drama with a supernatural twist angle instead of going the Walking Dead in Japan - now with half naked knife-fights and a super-strong-not-really-a-zombie school-girl. I really don't think I'd be okay with a (IAAH series spoilers)romance/drama between a 35 year old and a high schooler in the middle of a zombie apocalypse, frankly. I think the zombies having rare evolutions into something more is interesting and want to see where it goes since it's about to get back to Hiromi.
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Oct 13, 2013 04:59
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Captain Invictus posted:I really don't think I'd be okay with a (IAAH series spoilers)romance/drama between a 35 year old and a high schooler in the middle of a zombie apocalypse, frankly. I think the zombies having rare evolutions into something more is interesting and want to see where it goes since it's about to get back to Hiromi. Eh... I was talking about Hideo and Tekko. I guess I didn't make that clear enough haha. That is, I wondered where the comic would have gone if it hadn't went in the Zombie direction and instead focused on Hideo, his job and relationship with Tokka, while having his delusions (or ARE they delusions?!). I really enjoyed the slow-paced drama with some occasional supernatural horror. Anyway, I'm thankful the manga didn't head in the direction you thought I was talking about. It's uncomfortable enough as is! Renoistic fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Oct 13, 2013 |
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Oct 13, 2013 08:08
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Captain Invictus posted:I really don't think I'd be okay with a (IAAH series spoilers)romance/drama between a 35 year old and a high schooler in the middle of a zombie apocalypse, frankly. I think the zombies having rare evolutions into something more is interesting and want to see where it goes since it's about to get back to Hiromi. That part didn't feel as much like romance to me as Hideo feeling like he had someone to protect which was a weird, new, responsible feeling for him.
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Oct 13, 2013 16:31
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Shugojin posted:That part didn't feel as much like romance to me as Hideo feeling like he had someone to protect which was a weird, new, responsible feeling for him. That's pretty much how I saw that part, yeah.
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Oct 13, 2013 17:50
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Renoistic posted:Eh... I was talking about Hideo and Tekko. I guess I didn't make that clear enough haha. That is, I wondered where the comic would have gone if it hadn't went in the Zombie direction and instead focused on Hideo, his job and relationship with Tokka, while having his delusions (or ARE they delusions?!). I really enjoyed the slow-paced drama with some occasional supernatural horror. Anyway, I'm thankful the manga didn't head in the direction you thought I was talking about. It's uncomfortable enough as is! Wasn't a big part of the first volume about how Hideo was "a side character in his own story"? I interpreted that as "Hideo's life is really unremarkable and boring" so I don't think a manga based on his everyday life would be very interesting aside from his hallucinations.
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Oct 13, 2013 22:13
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Shugojin posted:That part didn't feel as much like romance to me as Hideo feeling like he had someone to protect which was a weird, new, responsible feeling for him. Yeah, I misread his post and thought he was thinking that was what was going on, haha. I don't actually think that was anything, though I do think there might've been a little bit of crushing going on that was ultimately pointless.
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Oct 13, 2013 22:36
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It would be pretty understandable, even with the age gap. Incredibly deadly, scary and unsure situations tend to drive people into each others arms.
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Oct 14, 2013 18:30
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I just got caught up. I really liked it up to the part (later chapter/volume spoiler)where suddenly getting infected and being somewhat resistant to it gives you super powers. I know it was suggested earlier in the series with the internet video but it just doesn't feel right with the tone of the first part of the series where everything is normal and then suddenly goes bad with the outbreak and is bleak and dismal.
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Oct 15, 2013 01:20
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I can understand why some folks have been less than impressed with the current shift to zombfags with superpowers, since it's quite a distinct departure from the earlier tone of the volumes. I'm curious to see where it goes all the same, but I really hope the series doesn't end with a bunch of psychotic Zs ruling the world. Also, I'm grateful that Hideo's role has shifted to more of a brotherly one with Hiromi; I never really read too much non-platonic chemistry between the two, but it was getting a little hinky for me. His latest supporting ladycharacter is curious enough.
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Oct 15, 2013 03:06
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After reading the first volume, I have to agree with the art and writing being amazing, but the OP i think should have some indication that this manga is about zombies. I liked the first volume but i'm just not interested in more walking dead or anything else zombie related maybe ever and I was kind of annoyed that the OP is purposely misleading about that.
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Oct 15, 2013 06:41
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I'm sure you'll survive this tragedy. Much like Suzuki.
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