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Alkarl
Aug 26, 2011

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Hooray, a Saga Frontier thread! This is one of my favorite PSX era games, and I'm stoked to see it LP'd. Yes.

As an anecdote, I tried Riki's quest first, and I didn't have a memory card. Let me tell you, MagmaSlimes can go straight back to hell.

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Alkarl
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That's a sexy looking gif. That's awesome, the techs and spells are rad as hell, and best seen in motion. Yes. :)

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Thwack! posted:

You know, the music in this game is pretty tight right? Well personally I think that the OST, to me, has the best remixes out there. For instance, this Battle 1 (the main battle theme of this game) arrangement is pretty drat smooth and jazzy despite the funny title:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkCdvv9OCgQ

This is fantastic. I will be having a jazzy SaGa time while I make breakfast tomorrow. Thank you.

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dude789 posted:

Nope, they're there in every scenario. The stuff does kind of break the bank though unless you take advantage of a certain glitch :getin:

I wouldn't exactly call it a glitch, more like... Taking advantage of an economic downturn to gain significant profits with which to actually afford something in this game :v:

Seriously though, Asellus is incredible for so many reasons. :allears:

vvv Yeah, she only perma joins Emelia. She does show up in someone elses scenario, but only for one dungeon. Kind of a tease, really.

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Dark Onion posted:


EDIT: The remix someone posted a while ago has a related link and holy crap it is straight kickin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZxKF1GxeOs

This is indeed kickin'. And the song name is now what I'll be saying any time I need to verb a noun. God I love this game.

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The cut main character was supposedly to be able to do some events, but that never came to pass. :(

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KataraniSword posted:

Is that a Doom plasma rifle? :crossarms:

That's probably a HyperBlaster. Silly Emilia, you can't use gun techs with those! :v:

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This is making me more and more curious as to what other variants people have heard in regards to what DSC stands for. I've always thought Dream Super Combo because I too had the Strategy Guide (hey it was fun to read about this game, and it had colour coded pages!), and that's what it called it. In a related note, I just had Liza get it within the first 2 hours of my current Emelia playthrough. :stare: I think that's the fastest I've ever gotten it, so... things are going to be hilariously quick, I think. :getin:

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I really, really enjoy Blue's quest for some reasons that will become clear as it progresses. Also the RegionMap is something that I sorely miss during someone like Asellus' story. I really wish Rouge let you use his. :v:

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For sure on the Rouge chat. I was hoping to avoid mentioning that fun stuff because it's kind of a major gameplay element that I wasn't sure Dude wanted revealed. Better safe than sorry, yo. :v:

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Bufuman posted:

Lute is my favorite for this. Everyone else at least manages to stay focused on getting the card, but by the end of the chain, Lute's dialogue literally goes something like, "Booze! Gimme more booze! Heh heh heh... Oh yeah, tell me about the Grail Card too."

It's true, the guy is just having a drunken blast and giving no fucks. At least, not until the krakens in the swamp drown him horribly.

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I just love how you're basically the evil twin. Rouge is so nice and helpful to just about everybody, where Blue is just using everyone for what he wants. Also he's a dick.

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You can't even get to Time Lord in Rikis quest because gently caress you, you're a monster, and gently caress you harder, you're Riki. :v:

Also this and Time Lord are probably the only fights you'll ever use Psychic Prison, but it's kind of thematically appropriate. You know, turning their power back on it as you take it for your own, kind of deal. I still like it. I will nth that Time Lord has bitchin' tunes too.

Also Blue is a dick, etc.

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Yeah, I generally throw the fight with Rouge these days, just because I like his sprite better. I remember I found out about that just from boredom, because I wanted to see if you got a special game over screen or something. It was a pleasant surprise, and I just like running around as the not-rear end in a top hat twin. Also I think in 'canon' Rouge won, but yeah. Fun times being a magical god of death.

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:stare: Holy gently caress that combo. Looks so cool and I can't imagine how long it must have taken that guy to figure out getting them all linked.

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T260 G because yeah, robots. Also best final boss and theme. :colbert: And yeah, agreed about the mystics looking Meh right after seeing mage god Blue.

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True, but as a result they're much higher maintenance than humans, on top of being stuck with armor that is middling at best. Still stupidly amazing if set up right though.

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This is late,but i think another neat thing about the magic duel is that when you put the brother's death quotes together, it forms a full thought. It's something like

Blue: How could you ever beat me? This

Rouge: Is unbelievable.

I just think it's a nice touch in light of the one person two bodies reveal.

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The DeadKnights in Sei's Tomb are particularly nasty for that reason, especially if you're there early for some rad treasure. The lesson is that it's dangerous to go alone. :smith:

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Oh my god I forgot about the penta axe general. The eternal badass. Also that post was informative as hell :)

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Yup, T260 gets a scenario specific thing for that, and it's (un)surprisingly useful in freeing up some slots for other things.

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Hokuto posted:

It's a place called the Region World. There's a swirly mass of stuff called chaos, and all the various regions float around inside of it. The region ships (and Tanzer) are the only things capable of safely navigating the chaos.

KataraniSword posted:

So basically, envision Jupiter, except put a bunch of cities and poo poo inside it via magic.

That makes a surprising amount of sense and is awesome.

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Glazius posted:

That is a strangely touching ending. T260 wakes back up because yonks ago a little kid gave him an order.

The mission must be accomplished at all costs, no matter what. :colbert:

Edit: Also I feel this rad piano cover is worth sharing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edK2VjgZuI8 because I think it's pretty impressive, especially once they get to Last Battle.

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Raitzeno posted:

Screw that, I wanted to see the Juryrigged Extralogical RB3 Killer: Weaponized Alcoholism & Douchery (J.E.R.K.W.A.D.) system in action.

I laughed at this far more than I should have. Bravo sir. :golfclap:

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I like giving the Kusanagi to T260 or EngineerCar to give them a solid single target attack while my main sword user uses that other special sword that is super rad and cool. Also goddammit Lute, why can't you ever be cool. :(

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Black August posted:

I never cared for Lute since I didn't like his sprite or the fact he had no actual bard-powers.

It actually would have been cool if he could use stuff like Da-Dum and War Song (BattleSong? The thing that Sei does) and stuff through an accessory unique to him or something. Bam, something useful.

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Hell's Lord also appeared to wield the seven branched sword in his humanoid form! :eng101:

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Adding to the Riki pile. Get the terrible out of the way so we can end super high. I'm sorry dude, I'm so sorry.

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Shitenshi posted:

It only works when everybody is knocked out save Mechs right? There are some fights where you start with a full party and knocking everybody out just to use it is annoying enough, and his crutch alone isn't enough to win, so you'd have to make it even more arduous by reviving everybody from scratch after using it.

At least he gets FinalCrusade which is your get out of jail free card in that situation. Still a pain though. However, I think it's a really fun button to use, no matter how inconvenient. :v: I'm sure Dude will have plenty to say on it when we get there though. If he survives the pain of Riki, that is. :ohdear:

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I would go so far as to say Riki has the biggest gently caress you in the game in his story, although Red does have a good one too, as alluded to earlier. Seriously, gently caress Riki. :colbert:

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Derek Barona posted:

Your only indication is in the last couple of screenshots, where Nomad is in a different position than before. That's literally it. You have enough time if you're doing really well, but if your momentum stops for more than three or four rounds because you're trying to heal, and trust me you'll always be trying to heal, her head will eventually go in and that's it.

:stare: I had no idea that was a thing that could happen and it actually creeps me the gently caress out for some reason. I definitely wasn't scarred by watching Akira when I was like 4, not at all Don't judge me :smith:

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Mystics can learn mind magic, they cannot get the gift though because the magic woman in Kyo is a goddamn racist reasons, so no Awakening for them. Something about the human spirit. Also Rouge can't get the gift outsude his own quest because (rather cleverly foreshadowed) plot.

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Keldulas posted:

Well as far as I'm aware, he at least gets a consolation prize with those caster mystics right? Nusukan comes with Arcane, Mesarthim Rune?

Nusaken comes with Death, but not the gift, so no Tower for you. Mesarthim has the Rune gift though.

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Fuckin MagmaSlimes. This shut me down as a kid too because like others in the thread, I thought it was a puzzle boss, not a simple "kill x enemies" deal. Just. Ugh. :negative:

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SaGa Frontier was kind of progressive in that regard, and nobody noticed because of the translation and the fact that everyone picked Riki first and proceeded to quit after 10 minutes. :smith:

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So Asellus' quest is basically the Trials and Tribulations of Being David Bowie? I can get behind that.

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At least you can head back to Luminous and grab Rouge again afterward. I usually come here to grab him a Runesword for the trick mentioned earlier. A similar trick can be done with Mystic/Realm magic and the PurpleEye. Implosion is pretty nice.

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I love Asellus' full mystic supercamp ending, it was just such a refreshing change of pace having your main character go mad with power.

Red will always have a special place in my heart, as he was the first scenario I actually beat, since I got stuck on Riki's MagmaSlimes. And his gimmick is actually really cool.

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Yes! This is the quest that solidified my love of this game (if my username wasn't a tipoff) and coming off of Riki it was that much better. Also Shuzer seems like a walking model of why you keep your arms inside the bus at all times. :ohdear:

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FeyerbrandX posted:

Or he was just being a massive dick and tried to screw with Red's mind.

I always thought he was just being a colossal dick too. gently caress that guy. :colbert:

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