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Anyone here collect action figures? This new Skull Face is pretty cool looking: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/...ng&utm_content=
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Mr. Flunchy posted:please take this seriously games can be literature too you know holy crap this is actually a thing you can do in MGS4?? 
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Nov 21, 2014 23:30
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Yes. The statue's willy breaks if you do it several times in a row and Snake's like "wuh-oops". I'm disappointed MGS4 doesn't have more weird random one-time poo poo like that.
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Nov 21, 2014 23:33
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Subyng posted:holy crap this is actually a thing you can do in MGS4?? Yeah, it's during the first mission. When you find the statues, you can climb up, and (I think) press the action button. Do it three times for a surprise! EDIT: The surprise has been ruined! *shakes fist*
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Nov 21, 2014 23:33
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Also when would you ever get a chance to shakedown FROGS since they are always shooting at you?
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Nov 22, 2014 00:02
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Subyng posted:Also when would you ever get a chance to shakedown FROGS since they are always shooting at you? Outer Haven, I think.
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Nov 22, 2014 00:06
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Oh true. I always felt it was too risky since they were always in pairs and in general the AI (in hardest difficulty anyway) spots you from so far away it seems easier to avoid then or simply take them out. I did a shakedown maybe once in the entire game. Also it's not like you ever need to find supplies since you can always buy for drebin points which I also thought was kind of dumb. That eliminated the whole resource management aspect.
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Nov 22, 2014 00:14
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When you're tracking Naomi through the woods there's also quite a few you can sneak up on.
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Nov 22, 2014 00:23
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Subyng posted:holy crap this is actually a thing you can do in MGS4?? I always found the statue was funny but ultimately pointless, because when you enter the area the guards are already walking out of it. You have to wait for them to come around again to actually enjoy using it as a piece of camouflage.
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Nov 22, 2014 00:58
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Metal Gear Scanlon is making me want to give 2 another try real badly. If for no other reason than to shoot at every little interactive thing around.
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Nov 22, 2014 08:44
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Subyng posted:holy crap this is actually a thing you can do in MGS4?? 
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Nov 22, 2014 17:20
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NienNunb posted:Metal Gear Scanlon is making me want to give 2 another try real badly. If for no other reason than to shoot at every little interactive thing around. MGS2 is honestly a pretty good game as long as you don't save very often.
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Nov 22, 2014 17:29
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K8.0 posted:MGS2 is honestly a pretty good game as long as you don't save very often. Hell, just skip the cutscenes/forced codecs. I actually did a few run throughs a few weeks back collecting dog tags and had way more fun with it than I thought I would. Cleared Very Easy up through Normal and well into Hard, but I think I'm going to quit after finishing there. MGS2 gets silly difficult past very hard (extreme/euroextreme). Olga can literally kill you in a single shot, lots of bosses generally can kill you in two, and gently caress that entirel gauntlet of Arsenal Tengu toward the end of the game. That said, there are still a bunch of good codec calls you can get if you actively call in while doing various things. It is still pretty much the king of "the developers thought of everything" trope. It's really worth playing in a way that you TRY to be a dick, then calling people just to see if there is any commentary for it.
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Nov 22, 2014 17:57
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K8.0 posted:MGS2 is honestly a pretty good game as long as you don't save very often. But then how will you learn Otacon's nuggets of "wisdom"? (at least in the Tanker chapter)
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Nov 22, 2014 18:40
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The Tanker is the only acceptable place to save.
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Nov 22, 2014 18:43
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Despite really being the weakest game in the series, I am still in love with MGS4 anyways. It still had so many great moments, plus the soundtrack was beautiful.
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Nov 22, 2014 21:51
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Elephant Ambush posted:Anyone here collect action figures? This new Skull Face is pretty cool looking: Holy poo poo, I'm so goddamn tempted to preorder this. I was at a con today and they had one of the Punished Snake Play Arts Kai figures from SDCC, but it was €200 
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Nov 22, 2014 21:51
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YOUR ROOM WAS EMPTY JACK! EMPTY LIKE YOUR HEART!
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Nov 23, 2014 01:15
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I still have no loving clue what Rose's problem was. Like, Jack just didn't have stuff in his room? Okay? The African child soldier might just be a little traumatized, lady, this is probably as coped as he gets.
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Nov 23, 2014 01:20
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I still have no loving clue what Rose's problem was. Like, Jack just didn't have stuff in his room? Okay? The African child soldier might just be a little traumatized, lady, this is probably as coped as he gets. IIRC the main problem was that he was full of problems and a lack of real coping, but pretending like he was normal and nothing was wrong.
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Nov 23, 2014 01:34
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Rose gets to be creeped on for the rest of her life by Colonel Campbell now so I think she got her just desserts for not trying to deal with Raiden's "I was a child soldier" and "I have killed dozens of people" stuff. Getting creeped on by Colonel Campbell is something I would not wish on any female Metal Gear cast member. edit: There is a codec call in Rising where Raiden talks to Kevin about how it feels to have a wife and kid and it's kinda touching in a way. Even though he's a big mean robot man of destruction and war, he still sees his wife and child as an ongoing adventure. 
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Nov 23, 2014 02:12
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I hope Rose is back in Rising 2. I wanna hear marital spats about cyborg home life.
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Nov 23, 2014 02:23
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Does Little John know his growly robot dad loves to murder people and used to beat his mom and get in bar fights for fun? Are we ever going to have a game about that?
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Nov 23, 2014 02:28
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cobalt impurity posted:Does Little John know his growly robot dad loves to murder people and used to beat his mom and get in bar fights for fun? Are we ever going to have a game about that? Was that ever confirmed anywhere? I haven't ever heard it in the games but maybe I missed it.
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Nov 23, 2014 02:48
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It's one of the codec calls in MGS2. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's the same one that talks about Raiden's room. He hit Rose for barging into his bedroom and flipping out about his lack of posters.
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Nov 23, 2014 02:57
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Oh. I take back the thing I said about her getting her just desserts then 
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Nov 23, 2014 03:00
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She also specifies that it was the first time Raiden had hit her, implying other incidents afterwards. Then in MGS4 she talks to Snake about how after Big Shell, Raiden would come home drunk every night covered in cuts and bruises.
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Nov 23, 2014 03:04
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Clearly that time paradox movie from MGS3 Secret Theater was canon and it was really Raikov post-Volgin lovin.
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Nov 23, 2014 03:09
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Gruckles posted:She also specifies that it was the first time Raiden had hit her, implying other incidents afterwards. I took it the other way, to mean that he had never hit her, and that was the only time he had lashed out violently at her. But I guess it could be read both ways.
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Nov 23, 2014 03:57
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Yeah, that was my interpretation as well. Her confrontation about it with Jack is the sort of thing you might say if you're concerned about someones stability, but still trust them enough to believe they will not ACTUALLY beat your poo poo. Not that Raiden is not a violent nut case. That is the basis for his entire character arc. First he denies it. Eventually he believe he over came it. Ha ha, nope, bar fights. Comes to terms with violence as his nature, but rationalizes violence is not inherently bad; you can use it for good. Then he proceeds confidently apply violence against morally ambiguous villains while believing he is morally justified. 
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Nov 23, 2014 10:14
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Kiggles posted:Yeah, that was my interpretation as well. Her confrontation about it with Jack is the sort of thing you might say if you're concerned about someones stability, but still trust them enough to believe they will not ACTUALLY beat your poo poo. To be fair, Revengeance is probably the most thematically consistent metal gear game, and the one with the least dumb plot (and yes this is a game where you play as a brain, brainstem and eyeball inside a ripped robot ninja body slicing enemies into millions of pieces alongside your robotic dog friend trying to stop Dick Cheney from inciting global war while the cheesiest, awesomest rock music plays at full blare. Nanomachines, son)
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Nov 23, 2014 16:27
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I think the story is about as consistent as the others, but gameplay-wise it's probably the most consistent due to the lack of extraneous detail. If it wasn't an action/Platinum game we totally would've had a huge Snake/Otacon/Sunny centered subplot within codecs to find out everything that's happened to them since we last saw them instead of the few mentions here and there and nothing too concrete explained. Rose and their son would've definitely appeared as well. Instead they pared it down and gave the game a higher amount of focus.
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Nov 23, 2014 18:05
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Comic posted:we totally would've had a huge Snake/Otacon/Sunny centered subplot within codecs to find out everything that's happened to them since we last saw them Snake is dead, man. Miss him, miss him, miss him...
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Nov 23, 2014 18:23
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I still wonder sometimes if the japanese DLC sword imbued with Snake's ghost is just a joke or if that's their way of going "yup he's dead". I mean Raiden does talk about him in the past tense in codecs but that could just be because he disappeared to go live his old man life out in solitude.
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Nov 23, 2014 19:44
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You act like Kojima has this poo poo planned out rather than just pulling poo poo out his rear end. Raiden talks about him in the past tense because it's less retconning when MGS 6 comes out where you play as Otacon infused with Snake's DNA and nanomachines.
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Nov 23, 2014 20:10
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Snake was an old-rear end man falling apart at the seams 4 years before Rising takes place. Even ignoring the whole FOXDIE/FOXALIVE bullshit, he had about 3 months before his DNA just couldn't divide anymore by design. Solid Snake is dead and he was a boring character anyway. Big Boss, Raiden, and Ocelot are the star players here. They're who all the games are really about. 
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Nov 23, 2014 20:57
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cobalt impurity posted:Solid Snake is dead and he was a boring character anyway. Big Boss, Raiden, and Ocelot are the star players here. They're who all the games are really about. BORING?! He shot down a HIND with only a STINGER!
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Nov 23, 2014 21:13
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cobalt impurity posted:Snake was an old-rear end man falling apart at the seams 4 years before Rising takes place. Even ignoring the whole FOXDIE/FOXALIVE bullshit, he had about 3 months before his DNA just couldn't divide anymore by design. It was a thing that his incredible will was holding him together so maybe if he's enjoying his life as a civilian he's just basically forcing his DNA to keep working for a bit longer. But yeah he's totally dead. CJacobs posted:I still wonder sometimes if the japanese DLC sword imbued with Snake's ghost is just a joke or if that's their way of going "yup he's dead". I mean Raiden does talk about him in the past tense in codecs but that could just be because he disappeared to go live his old man life out in solitude. Actually I remember that everybody else spoke of Snake in the past tense, while Raiden still used the present tense.
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Nov 23, 2014 21:16
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Metal Gear Solid 6 will be about Daavid, Solid Snake's clone infused with Vamp's nanomachines to keep the almost-instant DNA decay at bay while VR hypnotherapy is used to grant him Solid Snake's memories. Only all of this will drive him crazy and thereby give Kojima entire new ways to mindscrew the audience with hallucinations and unreliable narrator trickery. (And yes, I'm aware this is dangerously close to what actually happened in the AC!D games.) Xerox Snake. VO'd by Ryan Reynolds, who was somehow convinced it's actually Deadpool 2: Mo' Mercs, Mo' Mouths. He acts suspiciously clueless in the Making Of vignettes - but there's a secret message encoded in the pattern of dots on the t-shirts he wears. Soon people will figure out that it's actually code for "CYPHER LIVES". OMG Twist! See you in MGS 7: Return Of The MGS3 Cast For Real This time, The Boss And The End Are Back, We're Not Even Kidding You Guys. The series will then conclude with the game Kojima has wanted to make all along: Metal Gear Sokolov.
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Calaveron posted:Actually I remember that everybody else spoke of Snake in the past tense, while Raiden still used the present tense. Well, considering he is now the owner of Snake's soul and they're palling around together I guess that would make sense!
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