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Personally, I'm a big believer in the "No Towers" theory. The Twin Towers never existed. Sure, there are photographs but those can be doctored. Testimonies can be faked. With the psychotropic drugs even memories can be altered.
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Sick_Boy posted:Might as well throw this clusterfuck of a film here. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's every conspiracy theory. At a perfectly reasonable and not at all insane 5 hours, I'm sure that did nearly kill you. Can I ask if drugs were involved? Wow. I'm excited to kill some time over the next few days.
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twistedmentat posted:Look at the obsession with false flags now, there have always been nutbars who claimed that they existed, but now its pretty much an accepted fact by a not insignificant number of people that Sandy Hook and all other shootings are a evil plot by the gun grabbing liberals to take away ARE GUNS that will be followed by horrible martial law where all straight, white Christians will be rounded up and shoved into ovens. See, to me, that is just revisionism, of the worst kind. Sure, nutters have been saying the government is always spying on you since forever. After the sweeping reforms of the PATRIOT Act, a bunch of fully sane people said, "Holy poo poo! This allows the government to spy on us all the time and is twelve kinds of wrong!" They were dismissed as crazies because crazies have always said that sort of thing. During the Kerry Campaign, there was an attempt at reconciliation where people, for example, who were always against the Iraq War were clearly nutters, people who were for it and have come to realize it was a clusterfuck (which no one could have seen!) are the voices we need to listen to. Of course, that crashed and burned. Who would you prefer: the effeminate, French Appeaser or the manly, American Decider? Kerry lost the election but the marginalization of those voices continued, so the only mainstream outlets you could hear there were on Coast to Coast AM. Then Snowden and Manning appear. Holy poo poo, they were right! Not the principled objectors from the beginning, but the nutters on Coast to Coast AM! Who knew?
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Dec 30, 2013 07:43
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You're not so good at the whole "reading comprehension" thing, are you Twistedmentat?
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Who What Now posted:I only eat foods with no more than two syllables in the name. Cupcakes are good for you, burgers are good for you, Caesar salad is bad. Boom. To be fair, Caesar salad is pretty damned caloric. A buddy of mine was wondering why he wasn't losing weight. He had replaced lunch and dinner with salads! Edit: Of course the real source of his weight-gain was the Morgellons. Crystal weighs a lot, so transforming into a silicon-based lifeform will make you heavier. Shbobdb fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Jan 5, 2014 |
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Jan 5, 2014 22:38
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twistedmentat posted:That's actually something about Ancient Aliens that always gets me, that everyone who aliens influenced are always non-white. I haven't watched every episode and read every book, but they do seem to focus on African, Middle Eastern, Asian and South American peoples rather than Europeans. There's some weird rear end poo poo throughout Europe that could easily be seen as Alien, but nope, white people are smart. "Whiteness" is pretty flexible, but Stonehenge would be an obvious counter-example. I'm not disagreeing with the overarching thesis. Moderns think that pre-moderns were dumb mud-people and couldn't have built those structures, therefore aliens. But it extends to white people as well. Nazis spent a lot of time dealing with the obvious deficiencies of Northern Europe vs. Southern Europe. It's an old discussion with many arms. Like an octopus. An octopus wrapping itself around all of history with its many arms. If you know what I mean.
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Jan 7, 2014 03:54
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Sure, totally. That said, conspiracy theories are fascist by nature. So I expect them to be racist as gently caress. Every once in a while there is a benefit of the doubt, but those exceptions prove the rule. Real racists don't think the Celts were white.
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Jan 7, 2014 06:52
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Vorpal Cat posted:I know racist's actual definition of "white" has more to do with groups who come form former fascist empires then anything actually resembling a coherent definition. But good god how do you possibly get whiter then an Indo-European speaking group of pasty skinned people from northern Europe. It is part of the Irish-Iberian phenotype. It's actually skull-type III, so it can be peacefully integrated into the 1000 year empire, provided it respect its place.
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Jan 8, 2014 07:30
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Jan 8, 2014 19:45
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duck monster posted:Ahahaha reading these sites just led me to the wikipedia page of possibly the greatest rear end in a top hat scientist of all time, Allen H. Frey. Thanks for reminding me about that guy! His wiki page needed an edit. According to Wikipedia, he is no longer "being effectively silenced by the United States Government"
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Jan 11, 2014 21:34
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Modern Art was largely European in its roots, and from way before the CIA. The Surrealist Manifestos were from 1924 and 1929, The Bauhaus was founded in 1919, Dada came about through gatherings of artists in Switzerland in WWI, etc whereas the OSS, the precursor to the CIA wasn't founded until WWII. If the idea is that Modern Art is a CIA invention or was non-influential until they got involved, you need some time travel in there. Instead, they were likely just funding already well regarded artists that went against the tenants of Soviet Realist art to piss off the USSR, and many of the more abstract schools of Modern Art contrasted heavily with Soviet Realism. That was basically it. The CIA wanted the American artistic scene to be very vibrant and innovative to contrast with the Soviet stagnation with Socialist Realism. Wowing the world. I don't think anybody claims the CIA invented modern art, but they funded the poo poo out of it.
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Jan 12, 2014 06:48
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Also, the Chinese have their own wacky conspiracy theories to support themselves. Since there is already a vibrant counter-narrative, the only reason to create a counter-counter narrative would be to assert that Aryans did it first. Of which there are also several, but while CTs are necessarily reactionary, not all CTs are overt in their reaction. Indeed, plenty gain strength by distancing themselves from it.
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Jan 13, 2014 03:56
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My understanding is that the Soviets were also trying to close the "psychic" gap with their own programs. I'm googling looking for examples but, to be fair, as hosed up as the Western system is, the Soviet system was super hosed up. I'm just saying, it's hard to get up in arms against a program like MK ULTRA or GLADIUS when people are getting abducted late at night because they are living in a totalitarian state. That doesn't apologize the hosed-up-ness of it. It's like torture. That's something that *other* people are supposed to do, not what we do. Too bad that's what we're all about now.
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Jan 13, 2014 06:54
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Jeff Boss isn't in on the con. Jeff Boss is an American hero fighting for the Truth.
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Jan 18, 2014 23:38
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Personally, I'm a big believer in the "No Towers" theory. Sure, there are pictures, but those can be faked. Everybody who ever saw them from the outside was paid by the NSA. And everybody who went inside of them well, you got off on the subway and instead of going up, you went down. The simulated viewing room was covered up by the fountain.
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Jan 19, 2014 09:05
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I already posted this several pages ago. Google building sev-an.
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Jan 22, 2014 10:56
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Given the state of American vs. European healthcare, I'm really surprised by the map of Europe.
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Jan 23, 2014 04:09
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See, we are talking about crows. Jim crow. It's sympathetic magic. The Illuminati got us again.
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Mar 11, 2014 03:43
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The saber rattling against Russia and China was also really disturbing.
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Grouchy Smurf posted:I really can't understand why people support Snowden. Lets ignore the morality and / or debate regarding leaking secret documents for a moment. Showden leaked the documents from China, and then moved to Russia. Do people honestly believe that he got nothing out of the Chinese and Russian governments in exchange for secret documents? He simply sold important information and leaked some documents to make it look like a bigger thing. Sold information about the US government actively doing evil things. Things that really needed to come to light and weren't going to otherwise. Personally, I think of the Russia/HK (and HK is different from mainland China) angle as more of an escape route. But let's suppose for a moment that it was purely a mixture of spit and profit motive. He wanted to make a buck to make the US government look bad and got paid by foreign powers to do it. Or he just straight up got paid by foreign powers to make the US government look bad. Does that in any way excuse the gross negligence/outright evil/hosed-up corruption the US government was doing? Would we be better not knowing they existed or knowing that they existed? What you are asking is, "For the moment, let's ignore the morality of doing the right thing. Given that, isn't he an rear end in a top hat for conspiring with foreign powers against our government?" That's some Red Scare level poo poo, man.
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Grouchy Smurf posted:The leaking information part is hugely controversial. You can find people debate in favour of either side, with some pretty solid arguments. What I don't get is why Snowden is labelled as a hero. Bradley Manning is a hero. He did what he thought was right, stood up, confessed, and took the consequences like a man. Snowden was apparently fed up with the injustice in his country, leaked/sold documents, run away from justice and moved into a country that is renown for repressing its citizens. Hell, he is probably living in a house with a jacuzzi and sauna right now. So, what you are saying is that if you want to take a stand against injustice you have to submit yourself to that injustice? How the gently caress does that make sense? Chelsea is in solitary for what she did, and is widely mocked by the media when they talk about her at all. Snowden is sipping vodka and sampling caviar while we are still talking about him. Not only is it better for him personally, it is better for us as a whole because that kind of foreign patronage keeps him in the news. We need whistle-blower protections. Absent that, taking a sweet deal from a foreign power seems like a fantastic idea since it encourages other whistle-blowers. They know they'll have a safe haven. Martyrdom is nice and all but relying on a society built on martyrs is a piss-poor way to go about things.
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If, for the moment, we accept your assertion that both accomplished nothing then why in god's name should we venerate Chelsea? She threw away her life for nothing! I think they both accomplished a great deal, hell, the right vilifies Snowden but uses his information to drat the Obama admin all the time. Ditto with Chelsea. They also provide a context for history. Even if nothing changes now it gives future historians context and that's good. Hopefully it does more than that but gotta take what you can get. But if we assume they accomplished nothing, why venerate a senseless martyr over a savvy manipulator?
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Grouchy Smurf posted:Because she performed a good deed by acting selflessly on what she thought was an injustice, in an attempt to help others. It makes no difference whatsoever if she succeed or not. That is a really hosed up and ineffective moral system you've got there. Good luck with that.
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Grouchy Smurf posted:And I am the one with the problematic moral system. Look at this coward running away, trying to avoid culpability!
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MrUnderbridge posted:Mmmm... sorry, nope. That's not true at all. The science of phrenology clearly shows that differing groups of people have differing sizes of the dysphoric lobe of the brain. For example, porters and others engaged in physical labor have smaller dysphoric lobes than men such as you or I. Women have smaller still, which allows them to both bear children and the tempers of men with such ease as we commonly observe. To say nothing of the slaves in the Caribbean, who almost entirely lack this lobe entirely! It's modern science!
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FuzzySkinner posted:I always assumed that what goes on at top secret military installations would probably be fairly boring compared to what has been cooked up on the internet or featured in tv/film. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3622710
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May 5, 2014 02:04
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The Illuminati send all kinds of crazy messages that way. For example, Jet Li and Adam Sandler have been encoding secret messages in their movies telling me how to build a cold fusion device. Very clever.
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In the spirit of this thread, let me be the first to tell you to gently caress off and die you dirty foreigners. These colors don't run.
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Jul 11, 2014 08:53
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Has someone uploaded it? I would watch the poo poo out of a full-length version of that craziness.
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Jul 11, 2014 23:20
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I don't like his "killing kids" stance, but I do like his "pro-brisket" stance. As a Libertarian, I'm going to have to vote "R" on this one.
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Jul 15, 2014 04:40
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Things Americans can't handle: planes
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Jul 20, 2014 19:12
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Don't listen to the Raelians. Love has outlasted man's machines. What's new today goes out of style. Everyone's gone computer-crazy, far away from where love originated. So don't go to the supermarket today.
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While crazies will talk about things like HAARP controlling earthquakes, weather control is very real. It is an instrumental component of the chemtrail program. Probably the best example of it was cloud seeding prior to the Beijing Olympics to 1) ensure clear skies and 2) rain out as much of the pollution as possible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing_Weather_Modification_Office
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Aug 22, 2014 03:33
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Black Marxism is a pretty sweet canonical text that makes a pretty compelling argument that it is wrong to try and view racism through the lens of class struggle. It was pretty eye opening for me and I think it behooves us as leftists to be conscious and aware of the history of black oppression and how it differs from (white) class struggle. I'll broadly agree with SedanChair. If the racial element weren't present in American political thought, I imagine we'd look a lot more like Europe, Canada or Australia. Not that Tories/Liberals/Conservatives-of-all-stripes aren't total shitheads, but the racial element really does seem to magnify their level of shittiness. That has always been an integral part of American Conservatism, but we're starting to see its ramifications in post-Colonial Europe and Australia with the removal of the White Australia Policy.
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SedanChair posted:There are always gonna be folks who can't come to grips with it, they'd rather die than admit it. Have you read Black Marxism? I really think you'd like it.
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It's more funk/R&B https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIyBxifgLmk
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Sep 10, 2014 18:16
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Isn't the official D&D position to support Year Zero?
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Sep 11, 2014 01:47
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Dude, with the loving finger and poo poo. That was ti-eeet.
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It is really hard for me to find Leftist literature that I fundamentally disagree with, but there you go. (Not that I disagree with the message. Pol Pot did nothing wrong, we should celebrate the death of the capitalist dog  )
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SedanChair posted:Can we just not call people who sucker themselves into supporting authoritarian regimes leftist? Of course not, Freepers support Putin.
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