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I think TvTropes is all the worse because unlike other terrible examples of neckbeardy weeaboo insanity, you can't look at and think "But maybe it's all a joke, maybe someone is taking the piss". With TvTropes, there's just enough depressing realism to assure you that yes, there truly are people in this world who are obsessed with turning every last thing they have ever laid eyes on into a DARK MATURE SEXY version of itself, and/or documenting every last conceivabley sexual thing that every occured in any media they have consumed. Speaking of Tropers trying to make poo poo edgy and DARK, isn't there a quote about it? "Only children wish for adulthood, adults revel in childishness" or something? Basically saying "Only immature people want things to be mature and dark"
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 11:50 |
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 04:41 |
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So decided to look at movies that did get past the censors and were well known for it. Lets look at Sunset Boulevard and see if the troper can see what was gotten past the censors. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/SunsetBoulevard quote:Getting Crap Past the Radar: It's strongly implied, and among the production crew outright stated, that Norma has been using her pet monkey as a surrogate lover.Which means that the unfortunate Joe caught her on the rebound. quote:The nature of the relationship between Joe and Norma was also unmentionable in The Hays Code era. quote:Title Drop: The very first line: "Yes, this is Sunset Boulevard, Los Angeles, California." Interestingly, there is no actual title card, and the first shot simply shows a street marker, so it's still debatable whether the title proper should be Sunset Boulevard or Sunset Blvd. quote:Yandere: Norma. Full stop.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 12:01 |
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RareAcumen posted:Holy poo poo, are you serious? I never got into it because it looked like they'd be handling it awkwardly and it'd have a love interest and all kindsa stuff I don't care about. I heard about it being really good, like Attack on Titan though so I'm surprised that that of all things got in. Whoever told you that is a horrible filthy liar. SAO starts as masturbatory wish-fulfilment with a whole bunch of different creepy subtexts, and then the second arc kicks in and things get really ugly. At one point, the villain literally drinks the topless heroine's tears from her face as a 'gently caress you' to the hero.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 12:05 |
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Darth Walrus posted:Whoever told you that is a horrible filthy liar. SAO starts as masturbatory wish-fulfilment with a whole bunch of different creepy subtexts, and then the second arc kicks in and things get really ugly. At one point, the villain literally drinks the topless heroine's tears from her face as a 'gently caress you' to the hero. But that's the best part of the entire show. Nothing shows pure unadulterated cartoon villainy then literally drinking the tears from a girls face with half-nudity for added creepiness.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 12:14 |
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Friends don't let friends watch SAO.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 12:24 |
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This Sword Art Online stuff sounds awful, I bet tropers love itSword Art Online Reviews posted:Sword Art Online arc review by seg 162 24th Jun 14 Huh. I'd say it's just one isolated review, but looking at the YMMV page it's even more negative, and there seems to be a strong consensus that this poo poo got really hosed up in a bad way around the time of something called "Fairy Dance", which I'm going to assume is the same thing. Somehow, tropers managed to realize that a terrible creepy anime was terrible and creepy. HapiMerchant posted:But that's the best part of the entire show. Too bad you didn't. Lottery of Babylon fucked around with this message at 12:43 on Jul 9, 2014 |
# ? Jul 9, 2014 12:33 |
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HapiMerchant posted:Speaking of Tropers trying to make poo poo edgy and DARK, isn't there a quote about it? “Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” - C. S. Lewis
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 12:45 |
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ungulateman posted:“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” To quote Grant Morrison, in Flex Mentallo: "Only a bitter little adolescent boy could confuse realism with pessimism." E: "Astro City Special: Supersonic" is another comic that goes for the jugular on this particular attitude. Somfin fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Jul 9, 2014 |
# ? Jul 9, 2014 13:50 |
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Darth Walrus posted:At one point, the villain literally drinks the topless heroine's tears from her face as a 'gently caress you' to the hero. HapiMerchant posted:But that's the best part of the entire show. Ahahahahaha. That's loving magical. There's moustache twirling villainy and then there's this poo poo which is like doing a cirque du soleil routine on one. ahahahaha, brilliant. I'm still not watching it though.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 15:52 |
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Does someone have a link to the Bideau thread?
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 16:08 |
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I was just thinking about him the other day. Well, trying to remember who that crazy internet person who only listened to film soundtracks was. This thread reminded me, and the memories of llama cosplay came flooding back. The thread is here. May Jerima Precklesdough have mercy on your soul if you read past the OP.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 17:00 |
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discu...9200&page=1 Short version: They are trying to come up with a "creed" for TV Tropes, and the below is a verbatim quote of the first proposed creed mentioned in the thread: quote:We believe in one Mod, I'm surprised this hasn't been torn apart here. It's ripe for it.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 20:41 |
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Does that mean this time next year, we can expect Tropers to start evangelizing door-to-door?
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 20:51 |
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Penny Paper posted:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discu...9200&page=1 IIRC this appeared a while back. Also that link doesn't work.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 21:33 |
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Keromaru5 posted:Does that mean this time next year, we can expect Tropers to start evangelizing door-to-door? No, that would probably violate their parole.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 21:54 |
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Keromaru5 posted:Does that mean this time next year, we can expect Tropers to start evangelizing door-to-door? Like go outside and meet people? Is there a trope for this type of behavior?
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 23:23 |
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kazil posted:Like go outside and meet people? Is there a trope for this type of behavior? There's a trope for doing the opposite, does that count?
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 00:51 |
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Don Gato posted:There's a trope for doing the opposite, does that count? We'll call it an inversion of that trope and be done for the day.
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 00:59 |
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The Vosgian Beast posted:IIRC this appeared a while back. Really? Darn. quote:Also that link doesn't work. Sorry about that.
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 02:23 |
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Ninjasaurus posted:Talk about Nightmare Fuel. As I've learned from this thread, one troper's Nightmare Fuel is another troper's Fetish Fuel.
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 02:37 |
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BattleMaster posted:As I've learned from this thread, one troper's Nightmare Fuel is another troper's Fetish Fuel. And for some the two go hand-in-hand.
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 02:58 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:This Sword Art Online stuff sounds awful, I bet tropers love it (^ Literally an excerpt from the original novel ^)
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 03:52 |
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AmiYumi posted:Strange. Seems like SAO is exactly the kind of poo poo loves. I've heard that SAO was bad, but holy And this from the ORIGINAL work...
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 03:58 |
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AmiYumi posted:Strange. Seems like SAO is exactly the kind of poo poo loves. Haha what no way. Everyone who I saw bash that show just said it was generic wish fulfillment anime bullshit. No way, son.
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 04:17 |
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AmiYumi posted:Strange. Seems like SAO is exactly the kind of poo poo loves. Yet tropers hate it, but ADTRW loves it? Nice going.
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 04:18 |
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AmiYumi posted:Strange. Seems like SAO is exactly the kind of poo poo loves. Give the author's publisher some credit: they cut that part from the official publications. Unfortunately, they didn't make him re-write the story to be not-awful.
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 04:19 |
What the fuckity loving gently caress In retrospect, I'm glad I stopped going to my college's anime club shortly after they voted in favor of watching it.
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 04:20 |
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Sweet Jesus how did the animated version handle that part? This poo poo was on Toonami as well!
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 04:28 |
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Sweet Jesus how did the animated version handle that part? This poo poo was on Toonami as well! It didn't. Man, I loving love making fun of SAO, but this is turning into kind of a derail. Arist fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Jul 10, 2014 |
# ? Jul 10, 2014 04:35 |
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I remember when I was at the first spring meeting for my anime club in freshman year of uni, they said "we do weird things for the first meeting of each quarter. Last quarter half the room walked out because we showed breasts..."
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 05:32 |
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Wait it's a story about people playing and getting trapped in an mmo or whatever? It sounds like a lovely rip-off of dotHack
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 06:09 |
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Speaking of video games and Japan, I could have sworn that they had cut this page a while back. Guess I was wrong!
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 06:16 |
From the Discussion page posted:I think that this highly Freudian fetish is deeply misunderstood not only by its critics, but by many of its fans as well. Despite appearing to be naught but simple misogyny at first glance, it is actually a rather complex and nuanced mental exercise, incorporating elements of:
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 06:19 |
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mmm yes my fetish for watching girls get punched in the stomach is so very deep yes this isn't years of rejection manifesting itself at all
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 06:23 |
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I only processed like 1% of that as I scrolled by but the words and sentences I did see were very alarming
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 07:10 |
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HapiMerchant posted:mmm yes my fetish for watching girls get punched in the stomach is so very deep yes this isn't years of rejection manifesting itself at all It's not even hiding it posted:The viewer must create the illusion that women are over-privileged and deserve to be knocked down a peg from whole cloth. This is the "negative" interpretation method.
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 07:12 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Speaking of video games and Japan, I could have sworn that they had cut this page a while back. Guess I was wrong! Now that ain't right.
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 07:26 |
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So it's literally "you have to ignore how human relationships work and recast everything in terms of hosed-up gender roles to appreciate this genre," and that's why they're calling it art?
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 08:10 |
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That's an awful lot of words about getting off on seeing women being beaten up.
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 11:46 |
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NobbytheSheep posted:That's an awful lot of words about getting off on seeing women being beaten up. Be fair - sometimes (rarely) they're getting off on dudes getting beaten up. It's half the reason so much bara (translator's note - Japanese gay literature aimed at actual gay men rather than teenage girls) is so goddamned weird.
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# ? Jul 10, 2014 12:10 |