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Wait, the guy wrote a script that actively checks for sockpuppets, and made it publicly available? Meanwhile, he has two sockpuppets of his own - one where he pretends to be an attractive asian woman ( ) as well as another sockpuppet who he claims died.And at no point did he think that in making this script publicly available somebody might consider using it on him and realise that he is pretending to be an attractive asian woman. There is not enough
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Did he just not respond when you told him about the account thing? I'd think as paranoid as he is about SA he'd double-check that poo poo was secure even if he thought you were lying.
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made of bees posted:Did he just not respond when you told him about the account thing? I'd think as paranoid as he is about SA he'd double-check that poo poo was secure even if he thought you were lying. Ego has a bad tendency to overrule sense.
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Posting from their mod-only forums would be a clear case of poop-touching. Don't touch the poop! Edit: Ignore the above. Just don't touch anything! Brother Jonathan fucked around with this message at Sep 14, 2013 around 03:04 |
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Dauntasa posted:You should totally check out the mod-forum. Maybe Sawboss is doing it differently from how I did it a during the previous threads, but I could never figure out a way of accessing the mod-only forum while being Fast Eddie. I could see the titles of the threads in there, but couldn't actually read the content of them.
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made of bees posted:Did he just not respond when you told him about the account thing? I'd think as paranoid as he is about SA he'd double-check that poo poo was secure even if he thought you were lying. The first time I told him, he banned my account. The second time, he just insulted me, and the third time he didn't say anything. As for the sock puppet tool, it only cross-references IPs based on your current IP. I guess he never anticipated someone other than him signing into his account. And as for mod forums, Yeah Bro, there's virtually no security. It's more like a maze than anything, even when just looking around using the front end like we are. The whole site structure is a joke. People who register there are at huge risk, even if they're just making lurker accounts. e: which is to say, goons, think twice about registering there even to just lurk or whatever. Passwords are still stored as plaintext (on the forum itself, no less) and worse. If you already had an account, make sure your password there is different from all your others. Impatient Skype JO fucked around with this message at Sep 14, 2013 around 02:17 |
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I always used 123456 type passwords at TVTropes because I knew the system was worthless anyways.
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LaughMyselfTo posted:This was posted in one of the old threads, but it bears repeating: I write as a hobby, and that actually hurt to read. I'm not even talking about the tropes itself (I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and hope he's translating the concepts into TVTrope Language), but in his approach to the situation he's describing. He's treating it like a video game (I have X healing potions that heal Y health points and a character has Z damage!) instead of a thematic issue of scarcity. Why would someone do that?
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nm. Senor Blacksmith changed his mind.
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MisterBibs posted:I write as a hobby, and that actually hurt to read. I'm not even talking about the tropes itself (I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and hope he's translating the concepts into TVTrope Language), but in his approach to the situation he's describing. He's treating it like a video game (I have X healing potions that heal Y health points and a character has Z damage!) instead of a thematic issue of scarcity. Why would someone do that? I saw a trope page where someone explained that if you can't come up with a good story, just play D&D and write about the events that happen in the game. It's amazing how that idiot writer takes it so literally that he writes into a corner.
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Omega Shadowcry posted:Symphony's guitar barely managed to ring out over the screams, gurgles, and roars of these Paintings In Flesh. Smoking Crow fucked around with this message at Sep 14, 2013 around 04:10 |
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What I really love about the TVT forums is this:Main Forum Rules posted:You may have no more than 10 user accounts. There is an automated system which will site ban users with more than 10 accounts. If you forget your password there's no way to recover it so you have to make a new account entirely.
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purple_sammich posted:What I really love about the TVT forums is this: Changing your password requires you to be logged in, and there's no password recovery/reset system, so if you get stuck outside your account you're SOL.
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Why Do People Even Care About Unfortunate Implications?burnpsy posted:After seeing this post, I have a question to pose to all of you. burnpsy posted:@nrjxll: While I'll admit that I subconciously block out the especially offensive stuff for that reason you listed, to be perfectly honest, why waste your time self-censoring when, as you said, someone will be up in arms anyway. Oh So Into Cats posted:It's like the catch-22 of white people and POC helping each other. If a POC helps a white person it's racist because it implies that the white person's problems are more important, if it's a white person helping a POC then it's also racist because it shows that the POC would not have been able to reach their goals without white person intervention. So obviously the only solution is that different races should just not help each other. Stormthorn posted:"It's like the catch-22 of white people and POC helping each other...." Robotnik posted:
Majormarks posted:My stance is that if you get offended by something I say or do, that's a problem on your end.
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Namtab posted:I remember that one of the reasons the last thread turned out lovely was because someone took it upon himself to quote every even slightly skeevy trope off their Ghost in the Shell trope page, with liberal use of ![]() Any who, its good to see the regulars again. Here's hoping this thread doesn't end up getting gassed. Benny the Snake fucked around with this message at Sep 14, 2013 around 06:24 |
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Sawboss Jones posted:The first time I told him, he banned my account. The second time, he just insulted me, and the third time he didn't say anything. I mean, obviously, don't touch the poop now. But if I'd already put the effort into it back then, I would have at least hosed with him until I got bored.
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The YMMV page for Touhou: Watch them go nuts about everything that did (or didn't) happen in their Touhou games. edit: Man, I almost forgot about Colonel McBadass; he's probably still grudgewanking us in the comments section of This Troper videos
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:edit: Man, I almost forgot about Colonel McBadass; he's probably still grudgewanking us in the comments section of This Troper videos His revenge is yet forthcoming.
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Oh McBadass! I regularly get threats from him on my now-defunct channel. Even if he does know where I live, it's not like he's going to be able to take an international flight just to gently caress me up so ![]() He's currently posting by the name The Voice, and likes to post long screeds about how The Voice Will Be Heard.
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And man, if we're going to bring up the worst Tropers, is the "Don't talk about Draven" rule going to be reinstated?
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It's good to see this thread make a comeback - I actually started actively lurking here because of following the first few during boring lectures, which may have increased their entertainment value a bit. Hopefully it doesn't get bogged down in the occasional weird turns the third and particularly fourth threads took, like the multi-page discussion about how everyone who gets bullied in school deserves it and shouldn't receive sympathy, and the brief but perplexing exchange about how liking turn-based RPGs literally makes you a bad person. Jerry Manderbilt posted:And man, if we're going to bring up the worst Tropers, is the "Don't talk about Draven" rule going to be reinstated?
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Characters stuck in neutralTwentington posted:I try, but I just can't seem to get my characters going. I put them in situations in my head, but they never do anything. They just stay there motionliess. I try poking them, but nothing happens. Twentington posted:And I never come up with anything more specific than "This one wants a sausage pizza and a Coke" or "this one wants to have sex" or "this one likes to wear argyle". Twentington posted:All that comes out is Porn Without Plot most of the time. Twentington posted:To more and more Porn Without Plot. And then more and more Porn Without Plot. And then more and more Porn Without Plot. And then more and more Porn Without Plot. And then more and more Porn Without Plot. And then more and more Porn Without Plot. Twentington posted:That's always been a sticking point for me. I never think of impacting or dangerous situations, since I've never been in one. My life is almost absurdly mundane most of the time. Twentington posted:A couple of the things I do have anywhere near established are the setting, and some vague ideas of the characters. But I can barely get beyond minor things like "this one is adopted, a bit shy, but also a horndog" or "this one likes to cook". Just little things like that. My characters don't have any personalities because I made them just by sticking a couple of tropes together and calling it a day, therefore I don't know what their personalities are, therefore I can't write anything for fear of contradicting the personalities they don't have (???), therefore I just write porn. It's okay though, I have a great idea for a setting! Twentington has been posting in Writer's Block for years now, and the fruits of their labors are a handful of lifeless ragdolls except one of them has "Adopted Stepchild + Shrinking Violet + Obvious Pervert" duct-taped to his face. Lottery of Babylon fucked around with this message at Sep 14, 2013 around 15:30 |
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Don't forget about Beyond The Lampshade where banned and bitter tropers go to keep on being horrible people and learn nothing. They hate us, they hate TvTropes but they still love their lolicon. I think they jumped to a new server and a lot of posts were lost but there was classics such as quote:I don't see what the big deal is. My 20 year old brother got a 14 year old pregnant and they're doing alright. and quote:It's not fair to call me a pedophile because it's ok in my country to have sex with children.
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Tropers definitely find the act of creating a work hard. You know what's not hard, though? Naming your works! Your Work's Titles Samui Kizu posted:The only one with a definitive title so far is "Dragon Tales" ( as in fairy tales if that wasn't obvious ). Main character is a dragon ( in human-ish form ) and he encounters all kinds of fantasy stuff, but unlike normal fantasy, it's as realistic and scientifically accurate as I can make it without getting it proof read by actual scientists. And the occasional offenses can conveniently be handwaved by the MC's eccentric/trickster mentor being a *something* ( even I have no clue wth she/it is ) so mind-boggingly powerful that she can play around with things like the limit of infinity and the boundary of existence. My story is about a furry dragon and there's fantasy stuff but it's all serious and cool and there's a mentor who can do monkeycheese powerful stuff. KW posted:Eternal Bushido Eternal Bushido Endless Karate Forever Fist Oh So Into Cats posted:I am contemplating titling my current work WARNING: Contains Spiders. The story contains spiders and I keep forgetting that a lot of people won't read that. If a book is full of spiders so that once you open it they leap off the pages and down your shirt readers apparently need adequate warning. no I haven't read This Book Is Full Of Spiders what are you talking about Darkblood Carnagefang posted:The only two I've named so far: If works of fiction could wear fedoras these would be wearing the ones with a feather in the brim. Red Eyes Negro Dragon posted:Lament of a Ghetto Knight: A fantasy story following the life of the once legendary songsword known as Blacknight - master of the Wu-Tang sword style, and the dopest rapper on any coast East or West. Now a washed-up shadow of his former self, the knigga retells his adventures to a former fan of his in a seedy club. Full of tragedy, romance, comedy, murder and glamour. Inspired by the Kingkiller Chronicles, 2pac, rap music in general and lots of weed. Also includes a fantasy Ku Klux Klan with actual grand dragons. I'm not sure whether this is brilliant or terrible. Either way I want to see more.
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A rival out therePsycho Frea X posted:You ever get the feeling? There is someone out there with similar experiences to you. Damaged and empowered much like yourself, in the ways of writing, developed a similar style, with similar ideas, but you want the story told your own way and you're actually competing with them. It's not enough to write anime. The mere act of writing must itself be anime.
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Edit: never mind, it's been long since deleted
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Djeser posted:I'm not sure whether this is brilliant or terrible. Either way I want to see more. I'm gonna go with brilliant.
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Djeser posted:I'm not sure whether this is brilliant or terrible. Either way I want to see more. I'm gonna go with brilliant.
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Djeser posted:I'm not sure whether this is brilliant or terrible. Either way I want to see more. That is a cult classic movie waiting to happen.
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I think it gets less cool when you take into account that "Red Eyes Negro Dragon" is almost definitely a white kid who thinks pretending to be black and satirising hip-hop culture is hilarious and edgy.
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dads_work_files posted:I think it gets less cool when you take into account that "Red Eyes Negro Dragon" is almost definitely a white kid who thinks pretending to be black and satirising hip-hop culture is hilarious and edgy. It doesn't sound like he's actually satirizing it, though.
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Djeser posted:I'm not sure whether this is brilliant or terrible. Either way I want to see more. It reads like DLC for Shut Up And Jam: Gaiden. Lottery of Babylon posted:My characters don't have any personalities because I made them just by sticking a couple of tropes together and calling it a day... Something that I posted in one of the previous threads, and that it still relevant today: You have to remember that tropers essentially engage in cargo cult literature, where they can recognise the components of a story, but not how they interlock and work. Which is why you see story descriptions that have the names of tropes liberally peppered through them as if a story is nothing but a collection of clichés put together into a cohesive mass of horribleness. By way of analogy: A troper will spend years learning about what kind of ingredients typically go into cakes, and compile an exhaustive list of every ingredient and what they taste like on their own. Then the troper will present all of the other tropers with a bowl full of whole unshelled eggs, raw flour, oil, milk, and sugar, all in unstirred heaps, and say 'look at my cake'! And everyone will agree that the cake is delicious because it has eggs, flour, oil, milk, and sugar in it. And there's an unopened packet of instant icing on top, and the icing is surprise sex.
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Shut Up And Jam:Gaiden 420/50 Just add Mickey, and we have our next Kingdom Hearts!
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Are Con Langs Necessary for FantasyThe Muse posted:So I've been working on a series that's a high fantasy type thing, it takes place in a completely different world with different cultures and races and such. Obviously, they're not all going to speak the same language. But I've looked up resources online for language creation and I lack the time and skill to do it efficiently (seriously, how they hell is one to top Tolkien's Con Lang -s?) I've thought up a few solutions to this My fantasy world can't work unless I have sperged about literally every detail. Like honestly, how do you write yourself into a corner before you've even written anything at all?
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Con Langs was the lamest Mortal Kombat character.
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Volume posted:Don't forget about Beyond The Lampshade where banned and bitter tropers go to keep on being horrible people and learn nothing. From the thread "Anti-Male Sexism." Jack Butler starts with a 3-post opener. In the first post, he explains that the real problem is oligarchy, not patriarchy. I'll only do the first of three for the sake of not throwing a wall of text at the thread. He makes his long, drawn-out argument like a stubborn child who is certain that his 48-piece puzzle is actually 96 and he follows the 20 minutes he spent putting those together by spending days carefully tracing the edges and crafting the "missing" pieces, after which he stand back and presents his masterpiece to the world, oblivious to the fact that his "complete" puzzle looks nothing like a rectangle, nevermind the picture on the cover of the box.Jack Butler posted:As in the previous thread, I'm actually interested in having an intelligent discussion on this subject. If all you want to do here is tell me how much of an evil anti-female rear end in a top hat I am for even bringing up this subject, do us all a favor and tell me in a PM. Otherwise, you're trolling. Actually, I have to post his followup in response to quote:Your distaste of feminists seems to be based on generalizations. quote:My distaste for feminists is based on my distaste for sexism. Feminists are sexists, ergo, I hold great distaste for them. Its not a difficult equation to parse through. Feminists have a bad habit of looking around at what the world looks like now and applying it to their vision of history. The problem is that the nature of "work outside the home" was a very different thing throughout most of history. Feminists don't ask what it was like to have to hew coal out of a dark tunnel by hand for 12 hours a day, or to cut hay by hand in the heat of the sun, or to split an entire winter's worth of firewood by hand. The majority of men's work in the past has as much resemblance as work today as a laundry cauldron and washboard has to a digital front-loading washing machine. And because most of the truly dirty, dangerous, physical jobs out there today are still the domain of men (and believe me, feminists are perfectly happy in leaving that situation alone), feminists have no yardstick by which to compare what being a man was like in the past, or that women were privileged to not have to do that sort of work.
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dads_work_files posted:I think it gets less cool when you take into account that "Red Eyes Negro Dragon" is almost definitely a white kid who thinks pretending to be black and satirising hip-hop culture is hilarious and edgy. People who "satirize" hip-hop culture make fun of black people grills, pink Cadillacs, clubbing, hoes, etc. None of them have ever seen the skill of Shaolin.
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Yeah, I figured Beyond The Lampshade must be a good place when I first heard of it, because anything formed as a negative response to TVT must be good, right? But no, it's actually the people too crazy for TVTropes. EDIT: Holy poo poo, Jack Butler's a moderator on BTL. CONTENT: Way too much to quote; hope it's kosher to link to the thread: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.ph...39834200&page=1 This isn't quite the height of stupidity that happens in Writer's Block, but it's still certainly something; both for the OP and for the reactions. We can only imagine what the guy who was thumped was saying, but basically, TL;DR, I think we've found the Jabrosky of feminism. A guy spews his misogynistic fantasies into text, decides it'd be a great feminist story, and pushes it in Writer's Block. (As a video game, no idea how that's supposed to work.) He manages to get a knee-jerk anti-feminist response from someone who was thumped, a fairly reasonable "uh, this is kinda ridiculous" reaction from some other people, and, most damningly for TVTropes, the site's resident feminist comes in and defends him. And yet it's still better than 90% of Writer's Block threads.
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Volume posted:Don't forget about Beyond The Lampshade where banned and bitter tropers go to keep on being horrible people and learn nothing. They hate us, they hate TvTropes but they still love their lolicon. LaughMyselfTo posted:Yeah, I figured Beyond The Lampshade must be a good place when I first heard of it, because anything formed as a negative response to TVT must be good, right? But no, it's actually the people too crazy for TVTropes. I know we're low on content right now, but just making stuff up isn't the way to go. The last time we tried targeting that site, we had goons calling people who suffered child abuse paedophiles and posting pictures of them to laugh at. I'm all for mocking nerds for being nerds, but stuff like that's what got the last thread closed. And where'd you see that he's a moderator? According to their threads, he was kicked off the site after he made that horrible mysoginistic thread.
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as a punchline instead of putting any real effort into being funny.











pieces, after which he stand back and presents his masterpiece to the world, oblivious to the fact that his "complete" puzzle looks nothing like a rectangle, nevermind the picture on the cover of the box.