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djf posted:Okay so it's 4 episodes in and it's safe to say this is a pretty bad show. The concept has potential but unless they make the antagonists a step-up from the kind of bad dudes in most TV cop dramas it just doesn't hold up. When the drug lord turned down a plea bargain to give up the stewmaker by saying "you don't know who you're hunting, i'll take my chances with homeland" you're expecting a pretty interesting character. Instead we get slightly unhinged dentist who dissolves bodies in his own wood cabin. We're seriously meant to believe this guy has been working for repressive regimes around the world? Yeah this show has points where you think it's going to be interesting, then some character development just throws you for a loop. I've had a number of "huh?" moments while watching the first few episodes. Xaris posted:(Someone help me) I want to, I'm a fan of bad TV shows, but I just can't seem to get into this one. I never get drawn into the episode enough to enjoy it.
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This show is wonderfully awful. I think they can't afford better writers because they spent the cash on amazing guest stars. We've had Skinny Pete, Isabella Rossellini, and Francis Dolarhyde aka the Tooth Fairy.  I can't wait for next week's installment of SpaderSmug Adventures featuring NotOliviaWilde and her sidekick The Little Ginger Moron.
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Oct 18, 2013 20:19
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Also, let's face it, this week's "Manta Ray" was the fact that there are no chemicals on earth corrosive enough to dissolve a body in roughly five seconds' time before an FBI Rapid Response Team kicks down the door.
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Oct 19, 2013 04:56
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Also, let's face it, this week's "Manta Ray" was the fact that there are no chemicals on earth corrosive enough to dissolve a body in roughly five seconds' time before an FBI Rapid Response Team kicks down the door. We weren't meant to believe that his whole body was dissolved, just that he was paralyzed and submerged in a tub of acid for a good five or ten seconds and thus died.
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Oct 19, 2013 07:26
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ShakeZula posted:We weren't meant to believe that his whole body was dissolved, just that he was paralyzed and submerged in a tub of acid for a good five or ten seconds and thus died. The FBI also asked Spader at the end where he was, and Spader said he must've escaped. So it did dissolve his body pretty quickly.
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Oct 19, 2013 10:34
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:The FBI also asked Spader at the end where he was, and Spader said he must've escaped. So it did dissolve his body pretty quickly. "The barely recognizable rapidly-dissolving goo in that tub of red stuff must be some other poor schmuck...right, Lizzy? Not like you'll be able to DNA test any of it."
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Oct 19, 2013 11:35
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I gave it four episodes and I'm done for now, will ask around at the end of the season to find out if it got any better. Hostages is miles better but will no doubt be cancelled due to more people enjoying this. I just can't stand the ineptitude required for the FBI etc to operate at for SmugSpaders character to be able to do what he does. You could swap out almost all of Donalds dialogue with "Hodor!" and barely change his level of competence. Good job the FBI evidence room in the same facility they build escape proof containment vessels apparently has no cctv so the chap who let her wander past and root around could launch a proper investigation. Cameos from the HappyBombMan might have kept me coming back but alas, he hasn't been seen again.
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Oct 19, 2013 13:11
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Finally watched the most recent episode and I'm still really, really liking this show. Sorry for the rest of y'all. v  vMy favorite line: CIA Lady: How did you get here? Reddington: That's a nice blouse.  *walks away*
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Oct 20, 2013 17:26
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Whenever I see Spader, I keep thinking that if this show were done in the nineties/early 2000s, I could see William Shatner doing the same role, with exactly the same kind of delivery. This is a good thing. Count me on the "enjoying this show" list!
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Oct 21, 2013 01:15
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Tonights episode is... Episode 5: The Courier Messenger Robert Knepper is on the run but Red and the FBI don't know his appearance. Elizabeth ends up in the middle of a kidnapping plot.
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Oct 21, 2013 21:25
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I swear to god that's last week's episode with three words changed, from the description.
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Oct 21, 2013 21:29
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He's the greatest courier of all time. Completely untraceable. You can find him in the park at 2 PM. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to read a book that smart people read. Edit: Hooray for torture! OMG JC a Bomb! fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Oct 22, 2013 |
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Oct 22, 2013 03:11
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The FBI in this show are nowhere near as stupid as the FBI in The Following, but they are just as uninteresting to watch. Another thing, that refrigerator had no latch and was maybe 4 inches underground! There is no way that you couldn't open that with a little effort.
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Oct 22, 2013 04:06
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Oh no, guys. The ~Adversary~ Welcome to Alias-land. Soon they'll be relic-hunting for "Romboldo" stuff. Aside from that: "Hey, let's totally put this guy who can't feel pain with unknown things hidden in his body in a transport van and leave him unsupervised. If he had an escape kit hidden he'd have *already* tried picking his cuffs while confined in this ultra-security facility, RIGHT?"  Once again, FBI Guy's only a good actor when he's pretending to be a bad guy. Oh my, I hope that isn't *foreshadowing*. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Oct 22, 2013 |
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Oct 22, 2013 06:12
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Digging the music on this show, outside of that awful use of Sinnerman a few weeks ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-9Xr1a9LQ4
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Oct 22, 2013 09:03
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The show really wasted an Knepper on a really dumb character. KilGrey posted:Finally watched the most recent episode and I'm still really, really liking this show. Sorry for the rest of y'all. v Soothing Vapors fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Oct 22, 2013 |
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Oct 22, 2013 15:59
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"I just found out my fiance(?) actually really is killer/spy/agent and he 'really needs to talk'. Better head home and face him instead of calling the authorities." This entire show is incredibly and I don't know if I'm still watching it for anything other than Spader being smug.
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Sereri posted:I don't know if I'm still watching it for anything other than Spader being smug. You say this like there's another possible reason.
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Sereri posted:"I just found out my fiance(?) actually really is killer/spy/agent and he 'really needs to talk'. Better head home and face him instead of calling the authorities."
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Oct 22, 2013 20:49
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SKINNY PETE! In a suit.
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Oct 22, 2013 21:09
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Just watched the first five episodes last night and today to catch up on this, I kinda like it. It's dumb, the FBI agents are painfully incompetent, but it has James Spader being a smug dickhead and that's enough for me.
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Oct 22, 2013 23:46
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I had a big post about everything that was wrong with that last episode, then I realized how stupid it is to try and think about anything that I'd just watched in a logical manner. gently caress this show.
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Oct 23, 2013 02:21
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Is it just me or is Ressler ( FBI agent) just a poorly written character? I have known many FBI agents and no way in hell he would be able to act like this guy's character has been written. Also, the FBI in this show must have been the bottom of their class at Quantico, as they have absolutely no idea what the hell they are doing.
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Oct 24, 2013 23:53
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When the head of the FBI guy was saying to bring French woman in and Red was having to explain to him why this was stupid (because of course he'd need it explained to him) all I could think of was a line Saul had in the first season of Homeland: "an arrest at this time would be of negative value."
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Oct 25, 2013 01:31
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I'm glad they aren't taking away from the entertainment value of smug dickhead Spader by surrounding him with competent people. That would take away from the reason to watch this! At some point the sheer stupid is going to be too much but I might as well see how dumb it gets. They're seemingly blowing their wad early on Super Spy husband but maybe there'll be a curve with Apple Guy or something.
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Oct 26, 2013 02:40
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Tortolia posted:I'm glad they aren't taking away from the entertainment value of smug dickhead Spader by surrounding him with competent people. That would take away from the reason to watch this! He's going to be constipated Apple Guy soon if he doesn't stop eating apples all day long.
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Oct 26, 2013 10:16
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This show is amazing. All of the characters are either unlikable or evil, so when something bad happens to them it's actually pretty satisfying. I love watching Elizabeth be punished with psychological trauma every episode.
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Oct 26, 2013 10:56
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Elizabeth is loving retarded, naive, stupid, and constantly looks like she is about to burst into tears. The FBI are loving incompetent beyond all belief. James Spader owns, I was this show for the 5 minutes of he does each episode.
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Oct 26, 2013 15:09
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I enjoyed this episode, it was nice to see T-Bag again. Which they'd used him more, he didn't really get to let his full psycho out. I did find it funny his character was attached to a jail break yet again. One of my favorite things was the episode of Breakout Kings he was on. I'm looking forward to next week and what goes down with Lizzie and her husband.
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KilGrey posted:I enjoyed this episode, it was nice to see T-Bag again. Which they'd used him more, he didn't really get to let his full psycho out. I did find it funny his character was attached to a jail break yet again. One of my favorite things was the episode of Breakout Kings he was on. I'm looking forward to next week and what goes down with Lizzie and her husband. The way they're criminally underusing guest talent makes me wonder if there isn't a clause in Spader's contract saying that only he and whoever this Adversary guy is can be the only persistent 'big bads.' Also, this show will redeem everything wrong with it if the Adversary is a ~serious face~ Shatner. ...or George Takei. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Oct 28, 2013 |
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Oct 28, 2013 10:15
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This is an awesome thread. Read the op and first few posts; everyone is optimistic. Skip to last page, everyone is calling it terrible. I was briefly interesting in checking it out based on Spader alone, but it sounds like poo poo so gently caress that noise.
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Oct 28, 2013 15:38
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Basically, we are watching it for Spader .
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Oct 28, 2013 15:41
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They should just rename the show The Amazing Spader-Man and go with that.
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Oct 28, 2013 19:36
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Episode 6: Gina Zanetakos After Tom confronts Liz about the box, Red informs Liz and the FBI that the next name on the Blacklist is beautiful and deadly corporate terrorist Gina Zanetakos, a person who Red believes knows a lot more about Tom than he is willing to admit.
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Riso posted:Basically, we are watching it for Spader There is no doubt that it's a horrible show but Spader is so drat entertaining that I'm not going to stop watching any time soon. Also, Shatner guest starring would be amazing.
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Oct 28, 2013 22:16
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So he confronted her with his secret box...and then he gets pissy and denies all wrongdoing. Wrongdoing proven by the box he just voluntarily showed her. And then he tells her to call the FBI because he has nothing to hide, and proceeds to poo poo himself when she actually does. What the hell is even happening anymore? Edit: The government is run by a shadowy cabal of corporate interests, and they have a Blacklist member who organizes attacks for them. Let's get her arrested and placed in the custody of that same federal government. Edit 2: Inject an overdose of drugs into victim's neck, dump pills around body, hope to God the coroner never bothers to check stomach contents. OMG JC a Bomb! fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Oct 29, 2013 |
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Oct 29, 2013 03:09
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Snooki isn't buying any of his lies.
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FBI Guy: "Whatever you do, don't kill her!" Lizzy: "Kill her? I want to talk to her!" *FBI Guy puts two into her upper chest instead of kicking her in the face* ----- FBI Guy: We've got ten minutes, what are we gonna do about this car bomb that's *actually* the car? We should keep saying that because it sounds TOTALLY cool despite being completely irrelevant. Bomb Squad Guy: gently caress if I know, I've suddenly forgotten all I know about electrical engineering because I'm so taken aback by how cool a car bomb that's *actually* the car is, and I seem to be the only guy with 'bomb squad' on my costume. Run, maybe? Me Talking to the TV: Chuck the loving car into the water. It's port water, no one fishes in it, and you're in Texas, which is already the most polluted state in the Union. FBI Guy: Clearly we should stand around for 30 seconds and talk tensely about how bad it'd be if it explodes where it is. Lizzy: Oh hey I know let's dunk it in the water! FBI Guy: It's surrounded by shipping crates! How do you propose we get it into the water now that we've magically wasted five minutes in only 90 seconds' time!?!? I'm going to glower *derisively* at you now. I don't know what that word means but I heard it used once and it does NOT sound complimentary. Port Authority Guy: We do have these nifty things called 'cranes,' you know. FBI Guy: Okay, FINE. Enough with the loving LOGIC. But I totally get to do some Jack Bauer poo poo. You faggots aren't gonna steal my glory by just pushing it into the drink or just telling the crane guy to drop it, thereby buying us extra sinking time. Imma drive this bitch off the pier and bale at the last possible second like a fukkin' BOSS, *without* consulting with the bomb squad guy about the possibility that the ignition isn't booby-trapped or anything since this car was never *intended* to be driven once it was placed on the boat. That might be bad. Oh well, gently caress it! VROOM VROOM, BITCHES! *BLOOMP* FBI Guy: Yeah, let's all totally stand on the side of this pier and stare down at the Cobalt-60 salts accumulating at the surface giving us all a good soak in gamma rays. I'm a badass, right? Totally more badass than you, Ms. Terrorist Woman. You haven't even killed anyone yet. You'd probably cry for days - need *counseling* and poo poo. ----- Spader: Ah, art, booze, and money. My life *rocks* except for mild shipping glitches and having to wet-nurse incompetent loving children. Sucks to be anyone else.
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Holy poo poo, what a twist. The whole time, Red "Dead" Skelton was framing her husband to make her think that he was a secret agent! And she played right into his hands, as he plotted to....uh.....brush off the plot line in the next episode so they can hunt the next person on the Blacklist, The Most Deadly ______ in all of ________. And man, "playing all the sides" in Syria! It's too bad the federal agencies are too busy being impossibly dumb to stop the worst war criminal in history that they technically have in custody but not really.
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On the plus side, I'm pretty sure the villain next time is Wilson from House. I can't wait to see how they completely squander his talent for small screen drama as they did with Tom Noonan and Robert Knepper. EDIT: Yup. Episode Title: (#107) “FREDERICK BARNES” 11/04/2013 (10:01PM – 11:00PM) (Monday) : LIZ AND THE FBI HUNT FOR A MAD SCIENTIST – ROBERT SEAN LEONARD GUEST STARS – After a chemical attack on a subway, Liz (Megan Boone) and the FBI search for the man responsible. Liz reluctantly calls on Red (James Spader) for his help after she finds her search for the next person on the blacklist, brilliant scientist Frederick Barnes (guest star Robert Sean Leonard), heading to a dead end. Meanwhile, Liz wants nothing to do with Red after he implicated Tom (Ryan Eggold). Diego Klattenhoff, Parminder Nagra, Harry Lennix also star. ----- On a completely unrelated note, why did the car-bomb-that's-actually-a-car-and-how-cool-is-that-we-should-totally-keep-saying-it-as-often-as-possible have US Government plates on it? BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Oct 29, 2013 |
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