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David Icke's lizardmen reclaim the Earth in 2017, and all the rich people have been warming the planet up for them to make it a more ideal habitat in exchange for being allowed to live and not be denied air conditioning in their zoo habitats. Everyone else is to report to their designated 'mincery' to become hatchling chow. Oh yeah, and some writings by Nostradamus or a da Vinci analog foretold how to stop this from happening and there'll be a sublime globe-trotting artifact and document-collecting adventure where Liz finds out she's a half-lizard hybrid with a twin sister, which will explain why she and her acting seems so cold-blooded. Pretty sure it's not the JFK dossier, since all they'd need to do is pressure a President to extend the seal-until date. And seeing how inept everyone but Evil Alan Alda was, I'm guessing the gubbermint in this show's universe just goes around licking the remaining lead paint off the walls of federal buildings until they're told to do something by whatever shadowy cabal is running the world that week/month. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Nov 12, 2014 |
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't they put Hawkeye in that box because it is shielded from radio waves? Yet EOD dude was talking to them on a radio? loving show.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 14:17 |
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Just got caught up. Holy crap. We sure are racking up a body count this season.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 11:13 |
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Manofmanusernames posted:So...I'm I the only one who's been enjoying this show unironically from the beginning? I don't really understand all the hate this show is getting on SA. My problem is that the writers seem to take themselves too seriously. They think they are crafting a compelling story. No one cares about #lizziessecret, Tom wasn't/isn't some intriguing man of mystery that makes me want to buy a Ford Mustang, and everyone in the FBI task force is terrible except maybe for the nerd guy. Same problem for The Following. If they just went the 24 route and embraced the wacky poo poo that works then it would be much better. As it stands now, any non-Spader enjoyment I get out of the show is accidental (Lizzie pulling over some random guy's car, telling the driver to follow an ambulance, and luckily said driver is apparently a stunt car driver who can keep up with a high speed chase)
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# ? Nov 15, 2014 04:39 |
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I hope they go full on ALIAS and the fulcrum is some weird sphere of liquid that does mind control or something I forget and it made no sense.
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# ? Nov 15, 2014 12:02 |
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Gough Suppressant posted:I hope they go full on ALIAS and the fulcrum is some weird sphere of liquid that does mind control or something I forget and it made no sense. Well, as I recall, ALIAS was more or less just a 'spy show' for two seasons before they started in with the ~Rimbaldi~ poo poo ad nauseam.
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# ? Nov 15, 2014 12:17 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Well, as I recall, ALIAS was more or less just a 'spy show' for two seasons before they started in with the ~Rimbaldi~ poo poo ad nauseam. Ron Rifkin was still totally boss though
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# ? Nov 15, 2014 12:23 |
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Apparently there is an episode after the Super Bowl.
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# ? Feb 2, 2015 01:42 |
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I might stay up for it. Ron Perlman seems to be in it.
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# ? Feb 2, 2015 03:05 |
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Mr Hootington posted:I might stay up for it. Ron Perlman seems to be in it. This episode is good so far. At the halfway point and am hoping Ron Perlman replaces Peter Stomare as the big bad. I'm also enjoying the entire US goverment a.k.a. shadow cabal is super evil and Red may or may not been burned and is actually a good guy turned "evil" to fight them storyline. Is it subtext? I'm bad at this. I may also be the only one who likes this show in TV IV. Edit: Post is not edit. Sorry for the double post.
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# ? Feb 2, 2015 05:24 |
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Well, *I'm* watching it, so that's gotta say something. I don't think Perlman is anything other than the baddie-of-the-week, though. EDIT: Oh god yes, Red walking down a hall blowing fools away with with The Brothers Bright's Blood on my Name playing in the background. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Feb 2, 2015 |
# ? Feb 2, 2015 05:32 |
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Grizz from 30 Rock was one of the dudes who got Shotgunned by Red. That was a blink and you miss it cameo.
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# ? Feb 2, 2015 05:41 |
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After last season's revelation about "da gorl", Anyone else get the feeling that Liz isn't actually anyone important to Red, and that she just happens to conveniently fill a particular urban legend about Red that he needs filled while getting him access to the FBI?
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SwissArmyDruid posted:After last season's revelation about "da gorl", Anyone else get the feeling that Liz isn't actually anyone important to Red, and that she just happens to conveniently fill a particular urban legend about Red that he needs filled while getting him access to the FBI? I had thought something similar before but that would rely on all of these people knowing Red's background so completely. I am wondering if she was a trophy that Jack won by taking out some big bad.
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# ? Feb 2, 2015 05:56 |
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:I had thought something similar before but that would rely on all of these people knowing Red's background so completely. I am wondering if she was a trophy that Jack won by taking out some big bad. Hence "urban legend". It could very well have been a story that Red perpetuated himself to bait people into trying to attack that weakness, to draw people away from his other, more vulnerable, more actual weaknesses. Knowing what I know of Red, that sounds like something he'd do. Straight out of Sun Tzu, too. "A military operation involves deception. Even though you are competent, appear to be incompetent. Though effective, appear to be ineffective." EDIT: Well, that commercial seems to blow my little theory out of the water. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Feb 2, 2015 |
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Yoshifan823 posted:Grizz from 30 Rock was one of the dudes who got Shotgunned by Red. That was a blink and you miss it cameo. Yeah, I was half expecting the next guy to be dotcom
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# ? Feb 2, 2015 09:19 |
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I love this show,I don't even care how dumb the story gets cause James Spader is awesome.
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# ? Feb 2, 2015 09:38 |
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crazy8 posted:I love this show,I don't even care how dumb the story gets cause James Spader is awesome. For me, the show has been relegated to the "I need some background noise so I'll put a Blacklist on" category, but I still enjoy it quite a bit for Spader. I've never seen one actor carry a show so much. Seriously, if you removed him, the show would be nearly unwatchable. Now I feel the need to catch up just so I can see why Ron Perlman is showing up. Sidenote - I love Peter Stormare as an actor, but he is criminally under-used.
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# ? Feb 2, 2015 17:15 |
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SwissArmyDruid posted:After last season's revelation about "da gorl", Anyone else get the feeling that Liz isn't actually anyone important to Red, and that she just happens to conveniently fill a particular urban legend about Red that he needs filled while getting him access to the FBI? imo this is way too clever for the writers of this show to have ever thought of it
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# ? Feb 3, 2015 01:26 |
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Remember how a while ago, the idea of the US maintaining a site where they routinely brutally torture and execute people without due process would have been something the bad guys were doing in a conspiracy?
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# ? Feb 3, 2015 01:42 |
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Gough Suppressant posted:imo this is way too clever for the writers of this show to have ever thought of it Dunno. They've shown that Red can insinuate himself to anyone he desires with great ease, as demonstrated by his getting close to The Daughter of Berlin. For a hot moment, you all thought that really was his daughter, and not Liz. This has made me re-evaluate if he is not using Liz in the same fashion.
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# ? Feb 3, 2015 04:49 |
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Red going full shotgun and pistol in the last minutes were totally badass. I love Spader.
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# ? Feb 3, 2015 05:22 |
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And I never would've thought him capable from his work in Boston Legal
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# ? Feb 3, 2015 06:08 |
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Ahahahaha, "Blood on my Name" jumped to #1 in the "Singer-Songwriter" category on Amazon. (This is the song playing while Red goes Rambo near the end.) I understand it may have already had some fame by being used previously in a True Blood promo, but this couldn't have hurt. Wish I could see the popularity graph for the song.
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# ? Feb 3, 2015 08:20 |
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Digital Jedi posted:Red going full shotgun and pistol in the last minutes were totally badass. I love Spader. "Imma be takin' that shotgun." *thoom* I did kind of want Spader to fourth-wall the boiler room scene where the guy says it isn't gonna be him sticking behind to do the resets... "Fine, Lizzy and I will stay. We're both wearing plot armor."
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# ? Feb 3, 2015 08:23 |
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I too only watch this show as background noise. Can someone recap how Spader ended up in Hong Kong and how he got his B-team onto this hi security prison?
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# ? Feb 3, 2015 09:11 |
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Gough Suppressant posted:imo this is way too clever for the writers of this show to have ever thought of it It's going to be something ridiculous and nonsensical. Based on this episode, my prediction (pure speculation) is that Liz' DNA/fingerprint/whiny voice is the key to unlocking the Fulcrum, or something ludicrous like that. tatopom posted:I too only watch this show as background noise. Can someone recap how Spader ended up in Hong Kong and how he got his B-team onto this hi security prison? Wasn't sure about the capture bit. I figured I'd missed or forgotten something about the first half of the season, but I think it was supposed to be vague. As for his little helpers, he said something along the lines of 'I know people in every prison'. Don't think their presence was planned in advance. richardfun fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Feb 3, 2015 |
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richardfun posted:It's going to be something ridiculous and nonsensical. Based on this episode, my prediction (pure speculation) is that Liz' DNA/fingerprint/whiny voice is the key to unlocking the Fulcrum, or something ludicrous like that. She's probably the Rembaldi device
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# ? Feb 3, 2015 16:27 |
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WhyteRyce posted:She's probably the Rembaldi device gently caress you, now you made me remember how much better a show Alias was than this (even in the later seasons).
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# ? Feb 4, 2015 16:51 |
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WhyteRyce posted:She's probably the Rembaldi device Please don't trigger me
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# ? Feb 4, 2015 18:51 |
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WhyteRyce posted:She's probably the Rembaldi device No no no no no...Romboldo this time.
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# ? Feb 5, 2015 18:22 |
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Who even are the boring loving baddies now? That rich Jew guy who acts like a badass and doesn't believe red has the thing or whatever and the other people round the table who hired hell boy. loving hell. They're like a shadow government who own the cia and ...??
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# ? Feb 6, 2015 21:04 |
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Raymond 'Red' Reddington: [outside the White House with Elizabeth] People think it matters who occupies that house. It doesn't. Multinational corporations and criminals run the world. I figure them for the topmost evil cadre trying to run the developed world.
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Bape Culture posted:Who even are the boring loving baddies now? That rich Jew guy who acts like a badass and doesn't believe red has the thing or whatever and the other people round the table who hired hell boy. loving hell. They're like a shadow government who own the cia and ...?? David Strathairn is a very good actor, but even I'll admit his character's suffering because of the show's writing. Part of me thinks - and wants to believe - that Spader's little segues are completely ad-libbed, because the only other thing that makes sense is that there's a writer for those that works separate from everyone else.
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# ? Feb 7, 2015 01:54 |
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Accretionist posted:Raymond 'Red' Reddington: [outside the White House with Elizabeth] People think it matters who occupies that house. It doesn't. Multinational corporations and criminals run the world. I can't not read this in James Spader's voice. He's also half the reason I'm really excited for Ultron.
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# ? Feb 7, 2015 02:05 |
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:I can't not read this in James Spader's voice. He's also half the reason I'm really excited for Ultron. Spader evidently did some motion capture for Ultron as well, so it'll not only have his voice, but his mannerisms.
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# ? Feb 7, 2015 09:06 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Spader evidently did some motion capture for Ultron as well, so it'll not only have his voice, but his mannerisms. I really hope there's a scene where Ultron picks up a fedora and puts it on during a dramatic speech.
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# ? Feb 7, 2015 09:09 |
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pentyne posted:I really hope there's a scene where Ultron picks up a fedora and puts it on during a dramatic speech. "This reminds me of the time when...oh right, I've only been *alive* for about a week. I'm going to have to accumulate a few humbling life experiences before I start that spiel."
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# ? Feb 7, 2015 09:28 |
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Bape Culture posted:Who even are the boring loving baddies now? That rich Jew guy who acts like a badass and doesn't believe red has the thing or whatever and the other people round the table who hired hell boy. loving hell. They're like a shadow government who own the cia and ...?? The Illuminati
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So, what was that secret device that she found in the bear? SD cards? I thought the fulcrum was from the 90s so unless its microfiche I don't know what else it could be.DOOP posted:The Illuminati The Business Plot actually succeeded and the public was convinced that it was a failure.
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