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ThornBrain posted:With Ilyana he's more likely to go straight to where he's keeping the rest of the girls to drop her off. Yeah, and Wei's not the kind of guy who can handle stuff like long-term surveillance. He'd get antsy and start punching random passersby. No bus windshield would be safe!
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So looking at Sleeping Dogs on the Playstation Store, holy CRAP there is a hell of a lot of DLC. They went DLC-INSANE with this game. Which are the ones I can skip, the Horse Armor?
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None of these DLCs where released in Germany though.  I am looking forward to seeing them.
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Speedball posted:So looking at Sleeping Dogs on the Playstation Store, holy CRAP there is a hell of a lot of DLC.
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Wei Shen: murders men by the dozen, gets his rear end kicked by 3 chickens.
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Speedball posted:So looking at Sleeping Dogs on the Playstation Store, holy CRAP there is a hell of a lot of DLC. There's 4 that have missions: Wheels of fury, year of the snake, nightmare on north point and the zodiac tournament. The rest either add non-story missions or are just costume/weapon packs. Though if you're on pc like me.... http://store.steampowered.com/app/202170/ 20 bucks for the whole set for the rest of the day...
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poo poo. Mac user. I really do oughta get a gaming rig one day.
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U.T. Raptor posted:Wei Shen: murders men by the dozen, gets his rear end kicked by 3 chickens. Insert joke about all it taking to bring down the mighty Wei Shen is a few cocks.
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Now that we're near the end of the main segment, I have a bit of an admission to make. So a few years ago I LP'd a Vietnamese bootleg translation of PokeMon Crystal. One of the more memorable moments:   This is the kind of thing going through my head every time Wei's name gets said. But anyway, "Wei!" as it turns out is actually a casual Chinese greeting comparable to "Hi!".
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Epee Em posted:Now that we're near the end of the main segment, I have a bit of an admission to make. I remember that LP, it was one of the first I read on the Archive before I bought an account. Also...kinda like in Darker than Black, where the main character is literally named "The Student."
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I really like Broken Nose Jiang's characterization so far. Like it's clear she has ambition to become Sun On Yee leader, but she's really the one you want leading especially compared to Big Smile Lee. When you first meet her, she makes it very clear why Lee would be a terrible leader and Wei doesn't disagree with her. Even in the vandalism mission, her reasons to remove Two Chins was so Lee doesn't perceive Tsao as a threat and have the poor bastard killed.
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   Thus concludes the main story of Sleeping Dogs. We followed this up with a discussion on why Sleeping Dogs is so good compared to other GTA-style games. Next time: The Zodiac Tournament
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C'mon, Wei, it's ONLY a shotgun! WALK IT OFF, YOU PUSSY! (Also, you did NOT touch the sky...)
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Samizdata posted:C'mon, Wei, it's ONLY a shotgun! WALK IT OFF, YOU PUSSY! He did.
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Can't wait for the rest it's still going great so far. By the way, you can see the collectibles on the big map just hit square. You only see the ones you unlocked through dates though. I actually thought that for a while then found it on accident at one point. There's many nuances in the game that are never explained or even necessary as well. I even just learned one in this video, I never knew about the tackle finisher.
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U.T. Raptor posted:Those white boxes you were shoving peoples' heads into weren't empty, they had panes of glass in them That...sounds painful. Why was there only the effect of cracking Styrofoam then?
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I am really glad you showed off the special environmental kills at that last stage because I forgot to use a few of them. ...god this is one bittersweet ending, I mean I love this game and all but it pretty much ends like any drat good cop movie does. I mean, sure the story is a little clichéd on that front with the whole cop vs. gangster, the limits of one's force and the losses we must take and such. But god drat is it fun as hell to play this. And I'm so glad I got into this game to enjoy that experience along with you guys.
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Looking forward to the afterparty. I guess they really wanted Sifu to talk things over with you at the end there, since all the jade statues were basically just sitting out in plot missions. ...which is weird that he never shows up in any of Wei's flashbacks.
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You know..it just came to me: Wei Shen is a little like Kenshiro from FotNs. Both are brilliant, nearly unbeatable Martial Artists, that are nice guys but have no problems with killing their enemies. Also both seem to emit some kind of aura, that induces suicidal overconfidence in any punk or gang member they meet.
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Any chance someone can make a mod to reskin Elizabeth to look like Wei?
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So, Pendrew kills one person, goes to prison for life, and it's morally fine that Wei's basically set him up to be killed by Triad members. Wei kills literally hundreds of people, and gets no prison time whatsoever. I guess because none of them happened in cutscenes, those are the only ones that matter, right? This ending really doesn't make me feel like Wei's a badass, it makes me feel like he's a video game protagonist who doesn't have to face the consequences of his actions. Even Jackie's death isn't shown as being really his fault; the 18K knew they were close and used one to get to the other, but it's never really put explicitly in terms of "This is my fault, this happened because of me." Which you think they would once he finds Jackie dead. Especially at the end where he just won't die, I basically had to turn my brain off. I mean how is the player supposed to feel like Wei's in any danger when he can shrug off a shotgun blast at point blank range to the chest? It really feels to me like it goes too far at the end, which is a shame because I really like Sleeping Dogs and the story seems largely okay aside from that. That being said, I can't wait for the DLC videos!
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I think it's because almost all of Wei's kills can be argued as self defense. Pendrew straight up murdered an old man in a hospital bed while admiting to literally decades of corruption. Also, Wei kinda faces consequences in dlc I guess?
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bunnyofdoom posted:I think it's because almost all of Wei's kills can be argued as self defense. Pendrew straight up murdered an old man in a hospital bed while admiting to literally decades of corruption. I'm not sure what the people Wei runs over while driving did to have that constitute self defense. And yes, he killed an old man... who was one of the most powerful Triad members, the leader of an entire Triad. As much as I think a lot of cultures try to make it out that all life is equal, that's just not something I personally buy. So him killing Uncle Po, while not exactly heroic, is something that I at least feel is not at all on the same level as killing hundreds of gangmembers and of course the non-plot related stuff like running over people in driving segments, etc. And when you're in a fistfight and just start doing clearly lethal finishers, it sort of feels like "well that escalated quickly." Again, overall it seems like a really nice game, I was pleasantly surprised to find myself caring about Jackie, the guys in Winston's gang. But it feels like it sort of starts to buckle under its own weight a bit at the end, if that makes any sense?
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Shoeless posted:I'm not sure what the people Wei runs over while driving did to have that constitute self defense. And yes, he killed an old man... who was one of the most powerful Triad members, the leader of an entire Triad. As much as I think a lot of cultures try to make it out that all life is equal, that's just not something I personally buy. So him killing Uncle Po, while not exactly heroic, is something that I at least feel is not at all on the same level as killing hundreds of gangmembers and of course the non-plot related stuff like running over people in driving segments, etc. And when you're in a fistfight and just start doing clearly lethal finishers, it sort of feels like "well that escalated quickly. The way I see it, it's kinda like how in Resident Evil for example, you can get bitten hundreds+ of times, and never get infected or even injured - if it doesn't happen in a storyline cutscene, technically it's possible it never happened. I could go through an entire game killing only in self-defense (or even just knocking them out non-lethally), then the next playthrough kill literally everyone that enters my FOV... which reality is true in the game universe? And personally, I feel Po's murder is even worse than the nameless mooks. Po might have been the head honcho, but it seemed like he was focused on traditional warfare between the gangs, i.e. fighting honourably, which would mean less innocent bystanders dying and collateral damage kept to a minimum (Po'd never attack a wedding or funeral, for example). Not to mention him dying suddenly without time to set up and train an heir properly to take over opened up a massive hole in the power structure that everyone started clamouring for, which basically escalated and accelerated everyone's agendas and made pretty much everybody desperate enough to do anything to take his place. If he'd been around a while longer, Wei might've (there's a chance, however slim) been able to dissolve more of the Triads without having to fight huge swaths of them. Only a chance, but it's still better than NO chance with Po gone. Plus, dude was laid up in a hospital bed, recovering from getting shot. The 'bangers Wei put down were perfectly healthy, on their feet, and able to defend themselves. Totally different situation.
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thetrueoskar posted:The way I see it, it's kinda like how in Resident Evil for example, you can get bitten hundreds+ of times, and never get infected or even injured - if it doesn't happen in a storyline cutscene, technically it's possible it never happened. I could go through an entire game killing only in self-defense (or even just knocking them out non-lethally), then the next playthrough kill literally everyone that enters my FOV... which reality is true in the game universe? I disagree. They were able to defend themselves? Really? Come on, look me in the eye and say with a straight face that those guys totally posed a threat to the guy who can, in a cutscene, shrug off a shotgun blast at point blank range to the chest after being brutally tortured. Why does it matter that he was in bed? To say nothing of the fact that all the escalation caused by his death did result in Wei singlehandedly killing like, 2/3 of the entire Sun On Yee and leaving Jang in charge who seemed the most stable of the bunch. Seems like a decent end to me. Especially since, just because he wouldn't do something 'dishonorable' (BS, you're a Triad member, you've devoted your life to criminal activities, you lost the right to claim honor at the door) doesn't mean that he doesn't still arrange to shake down businesses, harass for protection money, let people take out loans with huge interests, and plenty of other scummy behavior. He might not have been a Sonny, but I don't believe that he's got a clean background that is undeserving of what he got. If he'd been around a bit longer for a slim chance, yeah, maybe Wei could have done more. And Pendrew killing him may have resulted in the triads banding together in a moment of solidarity. And there's a slim chance Wei Shen would spontaneously combust. There's a slim chance of drat near anything and using what might have happened is rather foolish. Leaving Po alive might also have meant that the 18K decided the needed to really make a statement and start an all-out war with the Sun On Yee, leading to massive collateral damage and even more innocent lives lost. See? Just as valid as saying it might have been better if he'd not been killed. As for the first point... just because other games do the same thing does not mean it is a good thing. Cutscenes and story being the only thing of import, separated by a massive impenetrable wall from gameplay is a bad thing, it is not a good design choice. And that's not to say that you should go all Bioware and have a quaint little good/bad meter that people react to, certainly not. But, and I think that Thornbrain and Travis mentioned this in the video on game sequels, that having no control over the characters actions means it's very hard to plan the story. A tale about the character being a good guy falls flat on its face if the open world nature of the game allows the player to play as a total rear end in a top hat the entire time. And even if you accept that only cutscenes matter, the cutscenes are still BS in showing Wei getting tortured, shotwith a shotgun, etc and just walking it right off.
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Sleeping Dogs and the DLC pack are 75% off on the Humble Store. Make sure you follow this guide to turn off the garbage DLCs (Red Envelope, Top Dog Gold, Top Dog Silver and maybe High Roller).
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Huh. For a second there, I thought they were going to pull the old "it was all a drug trip" ending. Guess not!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVnY4F7ftOE Seems the game is getting an hd re-release. Because that's the thing to do now.
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ares5566 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVnY4F7ftOE I'm just happy that they're doing this for a good game, and not just an overwhelmingly popular game, especially if this leads to a sequel.
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ares5566 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVnY4F7ftOE looking at this all i can think is sleeping dogs movie. this is not a bad thing, mind you.
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Mister Xenophobe posted:I'm just happy that they're doing this for a good game, and not just an overwhelmingly popular game, especially if this leads to a sequel. They're already working on a sequel, though all we know about it is it's title, Sleeping Dogs: Triad Wars.
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ares5566 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVnY4F7ftOE I think it's so developers can get used to coding on the new consoles. And also because I unno, people will play the same game again if it looks better. Look at Wind Waker.
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