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Slate Action posted:I drew Mega Starmie: Needs more spikes.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:02
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Jeez mega Venasaur is a tank. He removes the weakness to ice and fire, gets a big boost to defense to make it as high as his special attack and defense. Still though Venasaur's main use is chlorophyll.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:06
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Zaphod42 posted:Really? If you only get one, why? That's just a sucker move. I mean it's still bad to only give one per file, but I don't plan on using a lot of the megas and the ones I want to use aren't version exclusive so I might as well give mine away since they won't be any use to me. v  v
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Oct 11, 2013 18:06
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Wait-wait-wait, do you only get one MegaStone, or can you have multiple of the same one? Like can I have multiple Houndoomites? ... Seriously this kind of decides if I wanna get another game. 
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Oct 11, 2013 18:08
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Nobody knows. I can't imagine them giving you only one, though, that's dickish.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:10
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LightningKimba posted:Wait-wait-wait, do you only get one MegaStone, or can you have multiple of the same one? Like can I have multiple Houndoomites? Not sure I get why it matters, since you can only have one mega-evolved pokemon per team.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:10
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Sade posted:Not sure I get why it matters, since you can only have one mega-evolved pokemon per team. What if I wanted ALL the stones? When there is something to collect I must collect them all. (Games like DK64 were hell for me when it comes to that mentality)
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Oct 11, 2013 18:11
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Don't misinterpret that, though - you can have as many Pokémon on your team holding Mega Stones as you want, you just can only Mega Evolve one per battle.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:11
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Oct 11, 2013 18:12
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Intimidate drops the foe's Attack one stage, so it sticks around until they switch out. Chlorophyll affects the stat directly, so once it's gone so is its effect.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:13
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Sade posted:Not sure I get why it matters, since you can only have one mega-evolved pokemon per team. Also you might accidentally trade it away and then goodbye Megamawile forever 
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Oct 11, 2013 18:14
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maketakunai posted:Since there are version exclusive Mega Stones, for you to use Aggronite or whatever, someone needs to trade you their very exclusive one-of-a-kind stone.. which very few people will actually do if you can't get more. Aight, fair enough. I can't imagine they wouldn't give you a way to re-acquire mega stones though.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:15
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Speaking of Manectric, has someone found out yet what happens when a Mega evolved pokemon uses moves like Trick/Switcheroo? I'm pretty much sure that various other megas also have access to those.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:16
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So far as I know, it fails.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:17
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qnqnx posted:Speaking of Manectric, has someone found out yet what happens when a Mega evolved pokemon uses moves like Trick/Switcheroo? I'm pretty much sure that various other megas also have access to those. There are items that Trick doesn't work on, so it's probable that it just doesn't do anything. quote:http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Trick_(move)
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Oct 11, 2013 18:18
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It almost seems like mega stone collecting is the new legendary hunting. I can deal with that. Does anybody know if 24-hour stores like Wal-Mart or Meijer will be putting the game on shelves at midnight? I know it's common on new release Tuesdays but Nintendo always releases games on weird days.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:19
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Bag of Sun Chips posted:It almost seems like mega stone collecting is the new legendary hunting. I can deal with that. It's probably left up to the store. Call ahead and see. If your walmart's electronics dept manager is in tune with the pokemon thing they might even be doing a midnight release event.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:20
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Isn't it weird to only have about 69 new Pokemon made for Gen 6. I know a lot of the new Pokemon are in the Mega Pokemon, but they at least could have gotten to 90 or 100 new Pokemon. Even Diamond and Pearl had 107 new Pokemon.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:21
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Jarogue posted:Isn't it weird to only have about 69 new Pokemon made for Gen 6. I know a lot of the new Pokemon are in the Mega Pokemon, but they at least could have gotten to 90 or 100 new Pokemon. Even Diamond and Pearl had 107 new Pokemon. They also had to update the previous 700 pokemon with new models and animations, as well as model and animate every move in the game.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:22
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Jarogue posted:Isn't it weird to only have about 69 new Pokemon made for Gen 6. I know a lot of the new Pokemon are in the Mega Pokemon, but they at least could have gotten to 90 or 100 new Pokemon. Even Diamond and Pearl had 107 new Pokemon. Most of those were pre-evos and evolutions. Basically what Megas are doing but worse.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:22
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Jarogue posted:Isn't it weird to only have about 69 new Pokemon made for Gen 6. I know a lot of the new Pokemon are in the Mega Pokemon, but they at least could have gotten to 90 or 100 new Pokemon. Even Diamond and Pearl had 107 new Pokemon. Consensus is that the development time that would have otherwise gone to designing more new Pokemon instead went to modeling and animating all 718 Pokemon plus Megas in 3D.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:28
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Crosscontaminant posted:Houndoom is another cross-pollination Mega Evolution - it's X-exclusive but Houndoominite is only found in Y. Devs have been watching way too much Naruto, clearly. Our Gamestop sucks butt and aren't doing a midnight thing, neither is our Best Buy. It's a sad day when your best hope is a drat Wal-Mart purely on the basis of them being open all the time. 
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Oct 11, 2013 18:31
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Inspector Zenigata posted:I disagree; megas are being given to things that deserved to get real evolutions, basically precluding them from ever getting real ones. Megas are quite different than real evolutions in gameplay, too. Plus most mega evolutions are just adding spikes and shoulderpads to the previous models, rather than looking like a truly distinct form. 69-75 new pokemon is fine, I just wish that some of the megas were actual evolutions instead of being restricted by this silly gimmick. Do we know for a fact that 'getting a mega evolution' is a guarantee that there will never be a new regular evolution for that pokemon? I haven't seen any confirmation on that one way or the other.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:31
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Jarogue posted:Isn't it weird to only have about 69 new Pokemon made for Gen 6. I know a lot of the new Pokemon are in the Mega Pokemon, but they at least could have gotten to 90 or 100 new Pokemon. Even Diamond and Pearl had 107 new Pokemon. Discounting legendaries, Diamond and Pearl introduced 31 new families, and gen VI introduced...31 new families! Of course with legendaries gen 4 goes farther but gen 4 also had too many legendaries. gently caress evolutions, I care about brand new things, which this generation has plenty of.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:31
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Mega Houndoom is too great godbless
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Oct 11, 2013 18:32
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Inspector Zenigata posted:I disagree; megas are being given to things that deserved to get real evolutions, basically precluding them from ever getting real ones. Megas are quite different than real evolutions in gameplay, too. Plus most mega evolutions are just adding spikes and shoulderpads to the previous models, rather than looking like a truly distinct form. 69-75 new pokemon is fine, I just wish that some of the megas were actual evolutions instead of being restricted by this silly gimmick. Yeah, but they've got a new hat!
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Oct 11, 2013 18:34
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Crosscontaminant posted:Mega Manectric is still Electric-type and has Intimidate. Manectric has always been the most awkward-looking pokemon to me and this just solidifies it 
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Oct 11, 2013 18:34
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jivjov posted:Do we know for a fact that 'getting a mega evolution' is a guarantee that there will never be a new regular evolution for that pokemon? I haven't seen any confirmation on that one way or the other. No, but it seems likely, doesn't it? It doesn't really make more sense to give a pokemon with a Mega evolution another evolution. I suppose they could treat the Mega Stone like Eviolite in that case, in that you get a benefit from not evolving the pokemon. Then again, many of the pokemon who got megas already felt "complete" to me. An evolution wouldn't have made sense (to me) for Pinser--where do you go from a giant badass bug? The Mega Evolution forme allows them to improve it (that is, keep up with power creep (and give it wings!)) without trying to shoehorn in a new evolution for that pokemon.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:35
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There's definitely an imbalance with the Mega evolutions where some of them are viable in either form (like Gengar) but some of them really need the Mega form to be viable (Mawile). If you see someone toss out a Gengar in competitive play, you have to wonder whether or not it'll Mega evolve and change the situation, but if you see Mawile come out you know what's about to happen.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:38
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Sade posted:They also had to update the previous 700 pokemon with new models and animations, as well as model and animate every move in the game. Its not like making 3D models is new to Pokemon, just like at XD, Colosseum, and Battle Revolution. And Mega evolution shouldn't take that much time since only the last evolution a Pokemon get one. There also maybe that every pokemon might not get a Mega evolution.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:38
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Slate Action posted:There's definitely an imbalance with the Mega evolutions where some of them are viable in either form (like Gengar) but some of them really need the Mega form to be viable (Mawile). If you see someone toss out a Gengar in competitive play, you have to wonder whether or not it'll Mega evolve and change the situation, but if you see Mawile come out you know what's about to happen.  Mawile actually has several very good sets in NU. (Mostly buff and utility.) The surprise factor might just be enough to keep them afloat in higher tiers.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:41
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Slate Action posted:If you see someone toss out a Gengar in competitive play, you have to wonder whether or not it'll Mega evolve and change the situation, but if you see Mawile come out you know what's about to happen. A Baton Pass team?
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Oct 11, 2013 18:42
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Is there gonna be a different thread for pokemon trading or will we just use this one? Between trade evos and version exclusive stones I suspect there'll be a lot of posts about it.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:44
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The Leper Colon V posted:
Yeah, but is having one strong option and one gimmick option really as good as having two strong options? You could run a surprise set on almost anything.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:44
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Is there gonna be a different thread for pokemon trading or will we just use this one? Between trade evos and version exclusive stones I suspect there'll be a lot of posts about it. There's always a thread in Private Game Servers for trading.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:45
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Solumin posted:No, but it seems likely, doesn't it? It doesn't really make more sense to give a pokemon with a Mega evolution another evolution. It's just as likely that current mega evolutions will just become a regular, permanent evolution somewhere down the line. Or a split evolution where you can either keep it in a current form for mega evolution potential OR evolve it permanently into something new. Or something else entirely, who knows? I doubt even GameFreak does at this point. Let's not assume anything about future games when this one isn't even officially out everywhere yet.
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Oct 11, 2013 18:47
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Inspector Zenigata posted:I disagree; megas are being given to things that deserved to get real evolutions, You guys gotta see Masquerain in game, it flaps it's little wings ridiculously fast to keep itself afloat it's so adobrable goddamnit 
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Inspector Zenigata posted:Not as a guarantee, but it seems pretty unlikely that they'd give the single-stage pokemon who now can mega evolve a regular evolution now that they have the ability to mega evolve. If Game Freak wanted, they can just leave Mega stones in Gen 6. They did it to the Berserk Gene.
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