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Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Reminder: Michael Bay named Megan Fox's character in Transformers after himself.

AnonSpore posted:

I've only ever seen a short clip of Catwoman (which I think was posted in this thread) and that was enough for a lifetime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNlmRId2FVQ

# ¿ Apr 1, 2014 06:03

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 10:54

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

zoux posted:

Can you imagine being a 13 year old Marvel comic books/superhero fan in this era? Id've lost my poo poo.

Since they'd have basically grown up with it, wouldn't it basically seem like the norm? Don't get me wrong, it'd be very cool, but I think the (presumably older) people in this thread are more amazed by it because we can remember a time when there weren't concurrent X-Men, Avengers, and Spiderman film franchises.

# ¿ Apr 4, 2014 00:25

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

DynamicSloth posted:

I'm sure Strucker will be disposed of quickly in the opening like Batroc, it's not Age of Anachronistic Villain Doing Hammy Accent Work.

On the other hand, the Winter Soldier wasn't exactly the focus of Captain America 2.

# ¿ Apr 7, 2014 05:38

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Mr. Maltose posted:

He totally was when you realize that they're not really talking about Bucky in the title.

That idea works (assuming you know / look up an obscure reference), but titles set expectations and I think people might have expected more of a focus on Bucky than the movie ended up having.

# ¿ Apr 7, 2014 15:41

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

I liked Thor 2 a lot. It had a sense of fun and adventure, and the final fight sequence was actually interesting rather than just a punch-a-thon (which some of the other MCU movies have had issues with).

Solaris Knight posted:

Man, the MCU continues to astound me, mostly that there hasn't been a agreed upon bad one yet

The Incredible Hulk wasn't especially fantastic either.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2014 05:46

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

There wasn't really any two-fisted salutes in TWS or AoS. I'm conflicted about that, because it's hilariously goofy.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2014 12:46

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

I can't think of anything as as long-running as the MCU that hasn't had retcons on that kind of level though.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2014 15:05

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Cap's costume at the start of TWS is my favourite of the movie ones so far, but I recognise they're going to change it each time for toys and stuff.

# ¿ Apr 11, 2014 02:39

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

muscles like this? posted:

He doesn't really use it too much though, its in what, the ship section and after that he's wearing civilian clothes for most of the movie.

He's wearing it in the elevator as well, and when he's on the bike just afterwards.

# ¿ Apr 11, 2014 02:54

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Barry Convex posted:

None of the previous X-films have grossed even $500m worldwide, so DOFP's reported $250m budget is actually a pretty big risk.

It's not that much higher than X3's budget.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2014 07:43

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

They've already recast the Hulk once within the MCU as well.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2014 06:07

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

theflyingorc posted:

Also are we all forgetting what happened with Rhodie?

And the Hulk.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2014 16:46

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Hollismason posted:

I don't care what anyone says Batman/Superman will most certainly make a billion goddamn dollars no matter how lovely it is because its Batman and Superman in one film.

WB isn't trying to do world building they're trying to make a Billion goddamn dollars.

Yeah, but it's meant to be the start of a franchise and making a mint on the first film is no good if it gets terrible word of mouth and poisons the well for followups for a while. Superman Returns and Batman and Robin both made money, but here we are.

# ¿ Apr 29, 2014 05:05

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

greatn posted:

Les Mis, Prestige, X2, and I wanna say he almost certainly is in some other good films I just can't think of them right now.

Erskineville Kings.

He's also a successful stage / musical actor too, which is where he first made any waves outside of Australia.

# ¿ May 2, 2014 00:53

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

ImpAtom posted:

There are only so many designs you can do for a bat-themed car. No matter what it's going to resemble something that exists in Batman's history because Batman has had a whole loving lot of cars.

Well yeah, you're working within a well-established universe, seeking complete originality is impossible and probably undesirable (same goes for costumes).

I'd still like to see more low-flying Batmobiles.

# ¿ May 13, 2014 05:07

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Race Realists posted:

Dare I ask: Is it really that hard to like something, but not be an obnoxious piece of poo poo about it?

Most of the people who liked Nolan Batman films aren't in the vocal minority of obnoxious shitheads.

# ¿ May 16, 2014 06:11

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

d00gZ posted:

I guess I just wish Marvel would embrace the fact that you don't have to be grim and gritty to have higher artistic aspirations than "well, that was fun!" That said, I haven't seen Winter Soldier yet, and I hear it does a great deal towards that goal.

Yeah, I think it does a pretty good job of that. It's as political as any of the Batman films (but with better politics), and isn't much more serious than the other Marvel films.

# ¿ May 16, 2014 15:06

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

There's a typo in the picture, and it actually means that Ted Kord will be in the film.

# ¿ May 20, 2014 14:45

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

zoux posted:

Cryptic crew tweets involving playing cards definitely says "Joker" to me.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

# ¿ May 20, 2014 14:51

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Trickjaw posted:

In this continuity, all the characters are established, right? So we don't have to get Bats/Joker origin stories? This could well end up a six hour movie.

I think they've strongly implied Bats is a veteran hero at this point.

# ¿ May 20, 2014 15:12

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

The card is just a distraction, it's what it's lodged in that matters.

Plastic Man confirmed for BvS.

# ¿ May 20, 2014 18:36

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Hakkesshu posted:

If I can say anything about DoFP it's that Fox clearly has the stronger hand in the whole Quicksilver debacle. There's no loving way that the Kick-rear end guy will be able to top this.

On that note, the reaction to Quicksilver pre-release versus post-release has pretty interesting to watch.

# ¿ May 26, 2014 08:20

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Jackman being a lot taller than Wolverine (nominally) is makes the Fastball look a bit sillier too.

# ¿ May 29, 2014 15:42

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Premeditated Toast posted:

I'm confused, wouldn't the movie give a potential bump to comic sales, therefor still being a good thing for Marvel, or is this a weird reverse case of cutting off the nose to spite the face?

Movies don't really give much of a bump to comic sales, and comic profits are tiny compared to the movie business.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2014 09:37

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

XboxPants posted:

If that rumor is true, it's probably not that Marvel is trying to create a shortage of characters, and more that Marvel wouldn't want some cool new character to debut in X-Men and get really popular and start showing up all throughout their lines, Iron Man, Captain America, space stuff, crossover events, only to then not be able to actually use him in any movies. Like, especially villains. Think Dr Doom or Galactus. There's a really cool Thor vs Galactus story in the comics right now but they'll never be able to do that on the films.

In that case couldn't they just not do crossovers with any new material?

Anyway, it feels like movies don't tend to go for more recent material to begin with (The Winter Soldier being a big exception, although I've probably forgotten others).

# ¿ Jun 1, 2014 13:42

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

I should have known I was overgeneralising.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2014 14:32

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

qntm posted:

"Children of the Atom", right?

Yeah, which (in universe) is why the nuke tests in the mid 40s lead to a bunch of teenagers and young adults with powers in the mid 60s.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2014 01:48

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Maria Hill definitely knows about Coulson.

E: Given Coulson's currently the nominal director of SHIELD in the MCU his existence can't be a secret for that much longer.

Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Jun 20, 2014

# ¿ Jun 20, 2014 07:49

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

theflyingorc posted:

They're just feeding the blogs that follow this sort of thing EXACTLY what they want.

It's pretty much what has been happening for Avengers 2 as well, except people aren't really worried about that.

# ¿ Jul 11, 2014 07:22

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

theflyingorc posted:

I'd imagine that most people who saw The Avengers had completely forgetten about Hawkeye's small part in Thor.

Especially when Hawkeye is a non-character for most of The Avengers anyway.

The Avengers was great, but you only need to look at X-Men or the Fellowship of the Ring or any film where a team is assembled through a series of vignettes to know that it's not the only way to do it.

# ¿ Jul 11, 2014 16:40

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

glitchwraith posted:

With Justice League, your bringing in god-like aliens, mythical and magical cultures, the results of unrelated scientific accidents, and those who are simply really well trained vigilantes all to the mix. There is no overarching theme to easily sum up why these people do what they do and why they do it together.

They're heroes, and they're working together to do something they all believe in but couldn't do alone. It's a basic idea that has been used since at least the Illiad and the story of the Argonauts.

Sarchasm posted:

The setting makes the "why" less important. Elves can walk on snow because they're elves and elves are magical. You show a guy doing the same thing in Manhattan and you need to take a second and explain why.

Sure, but it doesn't inherently require a whole movie. It's why you have "getting the team together" sequences in films like Ocean's Eleven or Seven Samurai, and why most of the Avengers got a bit of a warm-up fight early on in the movie (because they correctly assumed that people wouldn't have seen all of the previous MCU films).

# ¿ Jul 11, 2014 17:32

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Unmature posted:

Also I don't think Wonder Woman is as iconic these days as people think. As an eight year old who Wonder Woman is. Even if they know, they won't tell you her origin or defining personality traits.

I don't either. Batman and Superman, sure, but the rest of the JLA (to varying extents) is definitely not stuff they can afford to think the audience is familiar with.

Marvel didn't even have that when they started the MCU.

# ¿ Jul 11, 2014 18:07

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Lurdiak posted:

Is this where people say Sucker Punch was a feminist film? Because if we're going to say stupid poo poo about Zach Snyder movies, we might as well go whole hog.

I think he genuinely intended it to be that, and failed utterly.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2014 09:12

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Sarchasm posted:

It's been a couple years since I watched it, but even that seems generous. I'm not sure Sucker Punch is coherent enough to have anything so lofty as "intent" attributed to it.

This interview was done shortly after release.

quote:

Would you say the film is a critique on sexist geek culture?

It is, absolutely. I find it interesting, in a lot of ways, that this movie � of all the movies I�ve made � has been universally hated by fanboys, which I find really interesting. It�s like a fanboy indictment, in some ways. They can�t have fun with the geek culture sexual hang ups.

I thought it was basically you commenting on those attendants at Comic-Con who shout, �You�re hot!� at beautiful cast members.

Yeah! 100%. They don�t know how to be around it. It�s funny because someone asked me about why I dressed the girls like that and I said, �Do you not get the metaphor there? The girls are in a brothel performing for men in the dark. In the fantasy sequences, the men in the dark are us. The men in the dark are basically me: dorky sci-fi kids.�

# ¿ Jul 12, 2014 13:14

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

theflyingorc posted:

I mean - there's a whole lot of Whedon in Avengers. I'm sure that there were a ton of plot requirements, but it's got his stylistic fingerprints all over it.

Shane Black's influence is really obvious in Iron Man 3 as well.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2014 00:59

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

No one suggesting Brad Bird for A3? Shameful.

He should have been tied up with Star Wars instead.

# ¿ Jul 30, 2014 01:07

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

thrawn527 posted:

It's been this way with almost every movie since The Avengers.

Avengers: Thanos mid credits scene, shwarama post credits scene.
Thor 2: Collector mid credits scene, Natalie Portman kiss post credits scene.
Cap 2: Twins mid credits scene, Bucky post credits scene.

They seem to be following the same formula where the mid credits scene sets up a future movie in a different series, post credits scene is either something fun related only to this movie or something to set up a sequel in this specific series (i.e. more self contained).

I think Iron Man 3 is the only post Avengers movie to break from this.

The shwarama scene was also only in some versions, because of when they filmed it.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2014 04:52

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Sarchasm posted:

I'm pretty sure he was just rejecting the notion that Sarah Michelle Gellar hates Joss Whedon, not that she's an active poster on a Something Awful sub-forum.

Just to toss my opinion into this morning's discussion, Joss Whedon keeps a stable of actors that follow him from project to project and I don't think he could inspire that kind of loyalty if he was a shrieking tantrum monster.

It's possible for directors to change too. David O Russell got into a literal fight with George Clooney and called Lily Tomlin a oval office on set while cameras were rolling, but has now settled down and has a set of regular actors.

# ¿ Aug 11, 2014 04:44

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

qntm posted:

Wherever there is danger, he'll be there.

DANGERMOUSE
SUMMER 2016

They are actually making a new TV series.

# ¿ Aug 12, 2014 12:32

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 10:54

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Does anyone else agree that Nebula was one of the highlights of Guardians of the Galaxy?

Yeah, she was good, especially in contrast to the other villains.

# ¿ Aug 14, 2014 01:13

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