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Dan Didio posted:I've read this three times and I'm still not sure what you mean. I think he's talking about how Alan Taylor disliked how campy the GOTG teaser was and wasn't happy about having it attached to his movie.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I believe there's an entire thread over on CineD to that effect. Yeah, I had read that thread before the film came out and had similar suspicions. P&G was just the confirmation that yes, he knows exactly what he's doing.
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greatn posted:I haven't seen Catwoman, but it seems like one of those films people say is really bad without ever having seen it. All I know is it certainly deviates from the Batman character. I dunno, I'd recommend anyone watch it at least once; it's terrible, but still within the realm of being enjoyably bad.
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Isn't there a rumor that BvS was delayed due to Affleck getting injured?
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Looks like DC is finally getting serious about a Wonder Woman film.
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Regardless of how DOFP does, anyone thinking that Fox would sell the rights back to Marvel is probably going to be sorely disappointed. Fox would rather make a dozen underperforming X-Men films before they let Disney profit off of a single one.
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Chaos Hippy posted:Aren't they supposed to be aliens instead of mutants in this movie? If that's still the case, I wouldn't count on anything. They were, until someone at the studio said "this is stupid" and made them mutants again.
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Sion posted:No, see, I haven't seen it but every single review of it I saw basically said 'there's nothing good in this film at all.' Is it worth givin' a look? You should absolutely watch it, it's an amazing film. It felt like most of the criticism it got came from people who couldn't accept the idea that Bay is a competent filmmaker who is a lot smarter than people give him credit for. I don't think it would have gotten such a negative reception if it were released under a pseudonym. "Man, how could you make a film glorifying a real life murder? Michael Bay is a meatheaded jock sociopath, there's no way he could know what satire is!" HorseRenoir fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Feb 3, 2014 |
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The Fantastic Four have officially been cast: Miles Teller is Reed, Kate Mara is Sue, Michael B. Jordan is Johnny, and Jamie Bell is Ben. Can't wait for all the "not racist but" comments about Jordan's casting. I think the most interesting thing about this is that all of the actors are in their 20's. HorseRenoir fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Feb 20, 2014 |
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Black Widow is finally, finally getting a solo film. This announcement sure would have been cool if it hadn't come several years after it should have, directly after the announcement of a Wonder Woman film.
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Hakkesshu posted:That cartoon ruled, and I was so goddamn pumped after that last AoA tease. Man, Marvel is wasting that license. Why is there no awesome X-Men cartoon running now? Why is every X-Men video game complete garbage? Considering how terrible Marvel's cartoons are right now, I wouldn't mind them dragging their feet on an X-Men show until Loeb leaves.
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JediTalentAgent posted:I'm aware of that. I was speaking in terms of Disney is probably not too keen on wanting to deal with a conflicting superhero film franchise out there using a character they are also using. I know they're doing it right now because both companies have shared the rights to use them, and apparently Whedon REALLY wanted to use them in Avengers, but I'm sure Disney would prefer being able to control the character. At this point, I think Disney's biggest problem will be having Aaron Taylor-Johnson constantly get compared negatively to Evan Peters. It'll be really hard for Whedon to top DOFP's usage of Quicksilver, and the images/teasers of ATJ's version aren't exactly inspiring confidence in me.
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The difference between the DOFP Quicksilver photos and the MCU Quicksilver photos is that at the very least, Peters' Quicksilver had some sort of interesting personality and look while ATJ's Quicksilver is just a boring brooding guy in Under Armour. But then again, I was one of the handful of people who liked DOFP Quicksilver's outfit and was rightfully vindicated when he turned out to be the best part of the film. quote:I think it's pretty clear from those set pics that those aren't Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch's final looks in the film. They aren't going to have a whole team of people in tightly designed costumes with one dude in mismatched Under Armor standing next to them. I know, but I think it's indicative of the direction they want to go with the character. Same thing with Scarlet Witch being dressed up as a 90's mall goth.
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Didn't see this posted here yet, but Hollywood Reporter has announced that along with Edgar Wright leaving, most of Ant-Man's key crew has left due to a lack of confidence that the film will make the announced release date. Apparently Marvel still doesn't have any replacements lined up and they aren't budging on the July 2015 release date. At this point, I think the film will either be delayed or be released as an X3-level rush job. What a loving trainwreck.
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Crosspost from CD: Nikki Finke is claiming that DC is about to get really serious about their film slate, really soon:Nikki Finke posted:We know that Warner Bros Pictures is way behind Marvel Studios when it comes to making movies out of its comic book properties. But I have intel on what is coming up at this July’s Comic-Con from the studio. A lot of stuff remains in flux but my sources have so far: Some of this sounds too out-there to be true (Shazam and Sandman films by 2016? What?), but it sounds really interesting nonetheless.
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Jun 12, 2014 21:03
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Dacap posted:Even though he has the look for Black Adam I think I'd almost prefer him as Shazam. He can totally pull off that big kid smile and optimism and it would add another person of color to the League. I'm still holding out for Dwayne Johnson as John Stewart.
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Oracle posted:Still doesn't inherently require a whole origin movie. See Grant Morrison. Batman, Superman, and yes Wonder Woman are iconic enough they don't need a detailed intro like say, Guardians of the Galaxy. Wonder Woman was incredibly huge in the 70s, and most people today if you ask 'who is Wonder Woman' will tell you about the star-spangled bathing suit and bullet-reflecting bracelets and invisible jet and magic lasso who is basically girl Superman. DC's major advantage is that most of their characters have built-in recognition. People know who Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Flash are, no explanation needed. Hell, you could probably have the film start off with the JL being an established group and people would still buy it. The only JL characters that would need explaining are Green Lantern and Cyborg (whose backstory could be summed up in 3 sentences, tops.) I think that using BvS as a way to quickly introduce the formation of the JL is fine, because a JL movie would only need one film's worth of setup at the most. The real reason Marvel had 5 films to set up Avengers was because they were a fledgling studio, and they needed to build up some form of star power and momentum before making a "big film" like Avengers. WB doesn't have that problem.
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I've never really got the complaints over the the tornado scene. The fact that Pa Kent died in a stupid, completely preventable way due to his refusal to compromise his beliefs is kind of the entire loving point of that scene. I think that when people say that they hate MOS, what they really mean is that they hate MOS's message and worldview. That's a perfectly fine opinion to have, but I don't think it's the same thing as the film being incompetently made. MOS is a flawed film, but I think it absolutely achieved what it wanted to achieve.
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Sarchasm posted:Young Clark is able to act in a way that both saves Pa Kent's life and also upholds Pa Kent's wish of "don't let on that you're different." But he doesn't, and within the movie there's really no good answer why. The real reason Pa Kent dies is because the script needed some kind of emotional moment to further push Kent into brooding seclusion, and no one on staff knew how to write it better. He doesn't because Pa Kent specifically tells him not to. Clark having to respect his father's decision to die in the car despite being able to find a way out of it is the pivotal moment of that scene, and central to Clark's character arc. It isn't some coincidence that all three of Clark's father figures die due to their steadfast beliefs of what Clark should be, and that only when all three of them are dead is Clark able to exercise free will and become Superman. HorseRenoir fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Sarchasm posted:But that just raises another problem with the movie, which is that it's a Superman film where Superman doesn't have any agency whatsoever. Well as I said, the heart of your argument is that you don't like what the film has to say, rather than how it said it. You are absolutely correct that Superman has no agency in his own film (although I'd argue that Clark does not become Superman until he gives himself agency at the end of the film), and I'd say you're also correct that Goyer doesn't really have the finesse to fully execute the ideas the film raises. But the main issue is that Clark not having agency isn't a "problem" caused by incompetence, it's a very intentional choice by the filmmakers, and (IMO) an interesting one at that. I viewed the film as an extended version of the whole Uncle Ben story, where the main character has superpowers but isn't truly a superhero yet until he experiences a certain trauma that fundamentally shapes who he is as a person. The film is cyclical in nature: Jor-El chooses to die with the rest of Krypton because he believes Clark should be given a new life, free from the corruption that has destroyed Krypton. Clark obviously obliges because he's an infant with no say in the matter. Pa Kent chooses to die in the storm because he believes that Clark should be able to live as a normal human, and that he would rather accept the consequences of his stupid mistake rather than ruin the only semblance of a normal life Clark has. Clark has a lot more agency in this matter, but is forced to respect his father's wishes and let him go. Zod chooses suicide by cop because he believes that Clark should help rebuild Krypton over Earth's ashes, and that with his life's purpose destroyed his only goal is to make Clark miserable out of spite. Clark is forced to oblige by executing him, but the emotional trauma of doing so is what creates Superman. Superman only exists after Clark breaks free from the cycle and has full agency to do what he wants to do, free from the influence of his father figures. Again, it's not something I expect others to like out of principle, but I thought the arc was generally well handled.
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Sarchasm posted:Not so much that I didn't like the message, just that I don't think the writing conveys that message competently. I really like the ideas behind the film, but I don't think they're set up properly. Too many times I have to ask myself "Why is he doing that?" and too often I don't feel like I have a great answer. I agree that the script is by far the weakest link (although I think the plot is generally sound), but there was enough for me to like that I enjoyed the film as a whole. It's why I'm cautiously optimistic about BvS; Snyder is capable when it comes to directing, but he always chooses really terrible scripts. I feel like Chris Terrio is talented enough that he can bring some finesse to the table that Goyer lacked.
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Nothing concrete yet, but it sounds like WB wants Chris Terrio to write the Justice League film as well as BvS. I am fully in support of WB's plan to quietly remove Goyer off the franchise. Re: Ant Man, I have no idea how the gently caress this film is going to be completed on time without being a massive trainwreck. The film is supposed to be in theaters less than a year from now and it doesn't even sound like they've finalized a script, let alone started shooting.
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Jul 25, 2014 23:42
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This "WB chickened out" thing is such fanboyish bullshit. Both Marvel and WB were poised to lose money if they opened the same day. If anything, I'd say that Marvel came out of this worse, considering BvS is now set to make more money than Cap 3 by using Cap 2's own release strategy against Marvel.
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JT Smiley posted:How so? By the time Cap 3 comes out BVS will be long out of theaters with no competition to speak of. Releasing first isn't a guarantee of anything this far out. The issue isn't what's in theaters in opening weekend, it's what's opening in the weeks afterwards. Cap 3 is much closer to the summer blockbuster season and will have to deal with other tentpole films cutting into the film's performance in the long term. BvS will be the only game in town for roughly a month and won't have to deal with that.
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I really really doubt anyone will care about who blinked first next year besides the usual company war fanboys.
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Codependent Poster posted:I don't know who you can cast for Shazam. You'll need someone who can physically match up with the Rock, and that's not easy. I think they'll have to go with an unknown, or redesign the big cheese so he's more like a lean cut guy and not a big dude. In a perfect world, Shazam would be played by Dwayne Johnson and Black Adam would be played by Dwayne Johnson in a goatee.
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omg chael crash posted:I don't care if it is or isn't, but it seems like Shazam isn't connected to MoS/BvS? It sounds like it is, it just won't directly cross over with those films.
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The next DC film to be announced is Suicide Squad, directed by David Ayer. I love David Ayer and I am 100% down for this.
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Crosspost from CineD: 2016 - Batman v. Superman 2016 - Suicide Squad 2017 - Wonder Woman 2017 - Justice League 2017 - Lego Batman 2018 - Flash (starring Ezra Miller) 2018 - Aquaman 2019 - Shazam 2019 - Justice League 2 2020 - Cyborg 2020 - Green Lantern Not sure why they want to make a Cyborg movie,
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Koalas March posted:Its literally the same thing. Our target was boys and girls liked it instead but we don't care because sexism so let's cancel this show instead of marketing it to a different audience. That's not really how television works. When advertisers pay money to show ads during a program, they're looking for a very specific demographic and expecting that demographic to tune in. The network could have said "hey this show is for girls now", but then all the advertisers looking for a male demographic (because guess where the money is!) would finance something else, ad revenue would be lower, the show would fail to make a profit and get canceled anyway. I personally blame YJ's cancellation on being a moderately pricey animated drama show at a time when there is very little demand for that type of show, and a pretty boring and mediocre animated drama show to boot.
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Dacap posted:Bleeding Cool is claiming that the first Wonder Woman movie is a period piece taking place in the 1920s and the second will take place in world war 2. The first will involve the typical origin of a man (who may not be Steve Trevor) discovering the Amazons and will introduce Diana to the world of man. The third movie will feature the modern day Diana in the Justice league. That sounds way too interesting to be real.
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"Fun" is such a useless nebulous term, and it always irritates me to see people act like it's some kind of well-defined adjective. 98% of the time, "fun" just means "I liked this but can't actually elaborate why". For what it's worth, I've had way more fun watching Inception and Dark Knight than I had watching any Marvel movie.
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I've said it before but the whole point of that scene is that Pa Kent's death was easily avoidable, and what that says about him and Clark as characters. Complaining about why Pa made a stupid life-threatening decision is like complaining that Schultz's plan in Django Unchained is overly complicated; it's mistaking an intentional character flaw for a half-assed plot.
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For all the complaining MOS gets, its depiction of Smallville as a place full of scared old white people who work in large big box stores feels incredibly realistic and apt to me. Anyone who idolizes small-town Kansas as an idyllic haven of American virtue has clearly never been there.
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At this point, I have to support this film if only because it makes so many pedantic nerds furious.
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loving called it: Michelle Maclaren is directing Wonder Woman. Really happy to see Maclaren making the transition into film.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I was really hoping for Timothy Olyphant as Deadshot, which got me thinking about Walton Goggins as the Joker. I've heard that Will Smith doesn't like doing sequels/franchises, which would rule him out for playing any major characters.
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