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Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

They say I'm a madman...
But I'm not mad
at anybody

Honest, I'm not.


Unlike RT tablets, Windows 8.1 tablets can access desktop and run normal programs. 2 GB RAM is standard and every tablet so far comes with a free copy of Office Home & Student 2013.

Released - 8 inch models

Lenovo Mixx 8 ($299.99 for the 32GB base model)



Specs:
- 8.46 x 5.19 x 0.31 inches, 0.7 pounds
- 8" HD 1280 x 800 WXGA display with IPS technology (5 touch points)
- Intel Bay Trail Atom Processor Z3740 Quad Core (2M Cache, up to 1.80 GHz)
- Up to 7 hours battery life
- 2-megapixel front camera and 8-megapixel back camera
- Bluetooth 4.0, Micro-USB, Micro SD slot
- Veriface Face Recognition Software

Upgrades:
- Hard drive up to 128 GB
- 3G

Special Accessories:
- Detachable Cover

Dell Venue 8 Pro ($299.99 for the 32GB base model)



Stylus issue kinda fixed. Get the firmware update here

- 8.59 x 5.12 x 0.35 inches, 0.87 pounds
- 8" HD 1280 x 800 WXGA display with IPS technology (10 touch points)
- Synaptics digitizer
- Intel Bay Trail Atom Processor Z3740D Quad Core (2M Cache, up to 1.80 GHz)
- Up to 10 hours battery life
- 1.2-megapixel front camera and 5-megapixel back camera
- Bluetooth 4.0, MicroSD slot, Micro USB 2.0

Upgrades:
- Red paint (on Dell.com)
- Up to 64 GB
- LTE connectivity (currently unavailable)

Special Accessories:
- Dell Active Stylus ($30)
- Dell folio case ($40)

Toshiba Encore ($329.99 for the 32GB base model)




- 8.4 x 5.4 x 0.43 inches, 0.98 pounds (depending upon configuration)
- 8" 1280 x 800 HFFS display (5 point touch)
- Intel Bay Trail Atom Processor Z3740 Quad Core (2M Cache, up to 1.80 GHz)
- 2-megapixel front camera and 8-megapixel back camera, dual mics
- Bluetooth 4.0, Micro HDMI out, MicroSD slot, Micro USB 2.0, GPS
- AC Adapter for USB Charging Cable
- 30 days free Skype
- 6 month free pass to Xbox Music

Upgrades:
Up to 64 GB

Special Accessories:
PA1541U-1BLK Encore Soft Case
PA1542U-1BLK Encore Portfolio Case with Cover, Black

Coming Soon - 8 inch models

Lenovo Thinkpad 8 ($399 for 64 GB base model, February?)



Specs:
- 8.87 x 5.19 x 0.34 inches, 0.95 pounds
- 8.2" 1920◊1200 FHD display with 10-point multi-touch
- Intel Bay Trail Atom Z3770 Quad Core 1.46 GHz Processor (up to 2.39 GHz)
- Up to 8 hours of battery life
- 2-megapixel front camera and 8-megapixel back camera (with flash), dual mics
- Bluetooth 4.0, Micro HDMI out, USB 3.0, MicroSD

Upgrades:
- Up to 128 GB of hard drive space
- 3G/4G LTE

Special Accessories:

quote:

An optional Quickshot Cover is one of the more interesting options available for tablets of this size. As with Appleís iPad Smart Covers, it attaches magnetically at the side of the tablet and protects its screen. As youíd expect, the cover automatically wakes the device when itís peeled back, but it also has a neat trick where you can fold a corner to expose the 8-megapixel rear camera and automatically launch the built-in camera app. The cover also doubles as a stand used to prop the tablet up in a tentlike mode.

Acer Iconia W4 ($329.99 for the 32GB base model - February)



- 0.42 inches thick, 14.56 oz
- 8" HD 1280 x 800 WXGA display with IPS technology (5 points touch)
- Intel Bay Trail Atom Processor Z3740 Quad Core (2M Cache, up to 1.80 GHz)
- Up to 10 hours battery life
- 2-megapixel front camera and 5-megapixel back camera
- Bluetooth 4.0, Micro HDMI out, MicroSD slot, Micro USB 2.0

Upgrades:
(unknown)

Special Accessories:
Bluetooth keyboard with an integrated cover/stand

Released 10+ inch models

ASUS Transformer Book T100 ($349 for 32 GB model, $399 for 64 GB model)



- Free Keyboard Dock
- Unlimited ASUS WebStorage free for one year
- Tablet: 10.3 x 6.7 x 0.4 inch, 1.2 lbs
- With Dock: 10.3 x 6.7 x 0.5 inch, 2.3 lbs
- 10.1" 16:9 IPS HD (1366x768) with Multi-Touch Screen (5 points touch?)
- Intel Bay Trail Atom Processor Z3740 Quad Core (2M Cache, up to 1.80 GHz)
- Up to 11 hours battery life
- 1.2-megapixel front camera and no back camera
- Bluetooth 4.0, 1 USB 3.0, 1 Micro USB 2.0, micro HDMI out, microSD slot

HP Omni 10 ($399 for 32 GB base model)



- 10.2 x 7.1 x 0.4 inches, 1.4 pounds
- 10.1" IPS HD 1920 x 1200 (5 touch points)
- Gorilla Glass 3
- Intel Bay Trail Atom Z3770 Quad Core 1.46 GHz Processor (up to 2.39 GHz)
- Up to 8.5 hours battery life
- Proprietary charger (not USB )
- 2-megapixel front camera and 8-megapixel back camera
- Bluetooth 4.0, Micro-USB, Micro SD slot

Dell Venue Pro 11 ($499.99 for the 32 GB base model)



- 11.72 x 6.96 x 0.40 in, 1.59 lbs
- 10.8 inch IPS Display with FHD (1920 x 1080) resolution with 10-pt capacitive touch
- Synaptics digitizer (?)
- User replaceable battery
- Intel Bay Trail Atom Z3770 Quad Core 1.46GHz Processor (up to 2.39 GHz)
- 8 to 10 hours of battery life
- 2-megapixel front camera and 8-megapixel back camera, dual mics
- Bluetooth 4.0, USB 3.0, Micro HDMI out, MicroSD slot, NFC

Upgrades:
- Core i3 4020Y, Core i5 4210Y and Core i5 4300Y
- Up to 256 GB of hard drive space
- Up to 8 GB of RAM
- LTE/3G

Special Accessories:
- Replacement Battery ($79)
- Dell Tablet Keyboard ($159 - full sized chicklet keyboard with additional embedded rechargable battery)
- Dell Tablet Keyboard ($129 - ultralight full sized keyboard with comfort key travel and a magnetic connector)
- Dell Tablet Dock
- Dell Active Stylus ($35)

Microsoft Surface 2 Pro ($899.00 for 64 GB base model)



- Free stylus
- 10.81 x 6.81 x 0.53 inches, 2 lbs
- 10.6 inch ClearType Full HD Display (1920 x 1080, 10-point multi-touch)
- Wacom digitizer
- 4th generation Intel Core i5 Processor, 4 GB RAM
- Two 720p HD cameras, front and rear-facing
- Full-size USB 3.0, microSD card reader, Mini DisplayPort

Upgrades:
- 128 GB
- 8 GB of RAM, 256/512 GB

Special Accessories:
- All the overpriced garbage you could dream of

Fujitsu STYLISTIC Q584 Tablet PC ($876 for the 64 GB base model)




Includes Microsoft Office Home & Student 2013 but only when you select 'Windows 8.1 (MUI) 32-bit (ENERGY STARģ qualified includes Microsoftģ Office Home & Student 2013 MUI (32-bit) and Windows 8.1 HDD Recovery' in customized options on the site

- Waterproof (tested for IPX5/7/8 specifications)
- Dustproof (tested for IP5X specification)
- Resistant to alcohol-based wipes
- Durable chemically strengthened glass display, MIL-STD tested

- 10.51 x 7.12 x 0.39 inches, 1.4 pounds
- 10.1Ē HD WQXGA Display (2560 x 1600) 400 nit brightness
- Active digitizer and capacitive touch panel
- Intel Bay Trail Atom Z3770 Quad Core 1.46 GHz Processor (up to 2.39 GHz)
- 4 GB of RAM
- Up to 11 hours
- 2-megapixel front camera and 8-megapixel back camera, dual mics
- Proprietary charger (not USB )
- Bluetooth 4.0, USB 3.0, MicroUSB, MicroSD, Fingerprint reader

Upgrades:
- Smart Card shell with VESA attachment points
- 128 GB eMMC Flash Memory
- Near Field Communication
- GPS Module
- Sierra Wireless AirPrime with GPS support (Verizon, AT&T)
- Sprint with GPS support available in 2014

Special Accessories:
Docking Cradle ($59)
Keyboard Cradle ($229)

http://www.shopfujitsu.com/store/st...#wf_productinfo

Coming Soon - 10+ inch models

*coming soon*

Frequently Asked Questions

Q: Just how powerful is the new Bay Trail in the 8 inch models?
A: Pretty powerful. In benchmarks, it's about double the speed of the old netbook standard of the AMD E-350 and there's YouTube videos of it playing old Source engine games.

Q: How much space does Windows and the recovery partition take up?
A: From what I read, about half the space available. 32 GB = 16 GB, 64 GB = 32 GB - I don't know how it is on drives bigger than that.

Q: It appears that Office is a trial version
A: The key's included on a sheet of paper in the box.

Q: Can I output to an external monitor if it doesn't come with a mini HDMI port?
A: Yes, unless you use Miracast, you'll have to use a Mini DisplayPort to HDMI cable but keep in mind that most of these tablets also charge through USB. That makes it an either-or situation if you go that route.

Q: My ASUS Transformer T100 is charging really slow
A: You need to put it to sleep or turn it off to have it charge faster.

Q: GAMES GAMES GAMES GAMES GAMES
A: There's a ton of videos on YouTube testing just about any major game you can think of. Yes, it's possible to game on one of these but don't expect the world out of it.

Q: GAMES GAMES GAMES GAMES GAMES
A: I guess you could even carry around a USB controller and play all your ROMS in between classes if you really wanted to.

Q: COMICS COMICS COMICS COMICS
A: I don't read comics but this app is highly rated http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/ap...b6-47f7ffe601f5 and there's an official comiXology app http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/ap...a3-914cc7918b98

Q: penis penis penis penis penis
A: (nice mission hill reference)

Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at Jan 22, 2014 around 19:31

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Mister Fister
May 17, 2008
NON STOP VERBAL DIARRHEA, EMERGING FROM MY KEYBOARD, FOREVER


Any good 13 inch 2 in 1's coming out?

Dead Man Posting
Sep 1, 2008




I have the Surface 2 on preorder. I also make a lot of bad decision in life and learn to "deal with it"

waffle
May 12, 2001
HEH


Those 8" tablets look awesome--I'm a huge fan of the 8" form factor. 10" is just too big. I'm surprised there's such a big difference in weight between the tablets, though, given they all have basically the same spec.s

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

I WANT A PONY TOO


But can any of them run CivII?

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

IT'S INCISIVE COMMENTARY!


Eagerly anticipating this next wave of 11- and 13-inch convertibles. My Acer W510 was vaguely netbooky at the best of times and is now showing its age -- it's one thing to realize I don't need a laptop that can run Skyrim and another to have to restart my tablet whenever I accidentally open a fifth browser tab even though I knew drat well one of the other ones was Facebook. Lenovo and (surprisingly) Dell have some compelling devices coming down the pipe, and I've heard some of the higher-end Acer machines are actually fairly decent but I'm mostly turned off from them now.

All else fails I'll just get a Surface Pro 2. I'd prefer a clamshell form factor, but those things still look drat nice.

loquacius fucked around with this message at Oct 18, 2013 around 14:25

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003


IuniusBrutus posted:

But can any of them run CivII?

Yes all of them.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005

OFFICIAL BITCH OF DANBO DAXTER

loquacius posted:

Eagerly anticipating this next wave of 11- and 13-inch convertibles. My Acer W510 was vaguely netbooky at the best of times and is now showing its age -- it's one thing to realize I don't need a laptop that can run Skyrim and another to have to restart my tablet whenever I accidentally open a fifth browser tab even though I knew drat well one of the other ones was Facebook. Lenovo and (surprisingly) Dell have some compelling devices coming down the pipe, and I've heard some of the higher-end Acer machines are actually fairly decent but I'm mostly turned off from them now.

All else fails I'll just get a Surface Pro 2. I'd prefer a clamshell form factor, but those things still look drat nice.

The Power Cover for the Surface Pro should be coming out soon and that will convert it into a clamshell form factor. If I was in the market for a lightweight laptop I would take a serious look at the Surface Pro with the Power Cover.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

IT'S INCISIVE COMMENTARY!


Internet Explorer posted:

The Power Cover for the Surface Pro should be coming out soon and that will convert it into a clamshell form factor.

Does it? I thought it just kinda hung from it like the Touch/Type covers did. The main problem with that for me is that they didn't even put in a magnet or anything to keep it closed, and also I'm still kind of skeptical about how lap-friendly they're gonna be even with the new kickstand angle.

fake-edit: While looking into that, I stumbled upon this video and I gotta say I'm actually really impressed with the potential of the docking station, in that it seems really easy to switch back and forth between the big-screen monitor mirroring the Surface's display and it being a second desktop. If you spring for one of the really high-end ones with 8 gigs of RAM the Surface could be a desktop replacer with that thing.

(real-edit: with a price to match of course; goddrat the 512-gig ones are expensive)

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

These lumps.
I know you wanna slump up on
These lumps,
But you can't 'cause you're a chump!
A chuuuuuuuuump!
-LSP


loquacius posted:

If you spring for one of the really high-end ones with 8 gigs of RAM the Surface could be a desktop replacer with that thing.


That's sort of the point of the Pro in my opinion, that it's a one-device-does-all and it was baffling that they didn't come out with a dock with the first one. It should make a huge difference in appeal to businesses. And again, MS drops the ball by releasing it sometime in 2014 and not at launch. They're probably holding off to see what enterprise demand is for the Pro so they don't waste money on docks nobody wants, but still, it's a feature that they should brag about and be proud of. Most other Ultrabooks don't have elegant docking solutions which make them limited for "real" work at the office where a nice keyboard/mouse/large screen are needed.

I think with some tweaks (making the Pro thinner and lighter, especially), the dock really completes the package and makes the concept, if not necessarily the execution, of the Surface Pro pretty unassailable.

LifeSizePotato fucked around with this message at Oct 18, 2013 around 17:36

lostleaf
Jul 12, 2009


Call me Charlie, you might want to update the OP for the lenovo miix 2. The stylus is actually passive not active. reference link

quote:

Lenovo has informed ZDNet that the stylus/pen that comes with the optional $20 smart cover is capacitive (for working with touch screens) and does not use an active digitizer.

I'm very excited about the dell venue 8 pro mainly because it has an active digitizer. Waiting for some reviews before dropping the money.

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008


lostleaf posted:

I'm very excited about the dell venue 8 pro mainly because it has an active digitizer. Waiting for some reviews before dropping the money.

Same here, although as the pen requires a battery it seems to be some unique technology. It will be interesting to see how well it works along with palm detection.

The low resolution is another blow, I'm actually considering the Dell Venue Pro 11 just for the higher PPI, although those 'slots' it has on the side for keyboard attachments are really ugly. A MS surface with active digitiser and Baytrail (for real windows) would actually be my ideal device.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

IT'S INCISIVE COMMENTARY!


Sri.Theo posted:

A MS surface with active digitiser and Baytrail (for real windows) would actually be my ideal device.

The Pro 2's Haswell isn't doing it for you?

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

I WANT A PONY TOO


Stick100 posted:

Yes all of them.

But can any of them run CivII (well)?

lostleaf
Jul 12, 2009


drat it... I'm so weak willed. Couldn't even wait for the reviews.

I just ordered a venue 8 pro with 64gb plus stylus. Estimated ship date Nov 1. I'll report back once I received it.

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002
I LOVE THE WHITE STRIPES!

I want the 11 - 13" one with a Bay Trail and a kick rear end screen and speakers.

Nehefer
Aug 9, 2008


I also have a Surface Pro 2 on preorder, 8GB version. Man, this should be great.

I think.

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008


loquacius posted:

The Pro 2's Haswell isn't doing it for you?

Not at that price, a Baytrail tablet could come out around £500 compared to almost a £1000. Also a SD card slot would be nice!

Sri.Theo fucked around with this message at Oct 19, 2013 around 17:19

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things

Holy poo poo I thought these were RT tablets. Do any of them have a wacom digitizer like the surface pen? If they have pressure sensitivity and can run sketchbook pro ok, I am buying one asap.

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008


keyframe posted:

Holy poo poo I thought these were RT tablets. Do any of them have a wacom digitizer like the surface pen? If they have pressure sensitivity and can run sketchbook pro ok, I am buying one asap.

The Dell Venue Pro's apparently do, but they describe it as an 'active pen' by synaptics, so its unclear what that means. You're better of waiting for some reviews as most of these are getting released before 2014.

RT is effectively dead with the release of Intel's Baytrail chips.

Edit: Other things to be aware of are seamless disk encryption, connected standby and Instant On all of which have specific hardware requirements to be enabled. Connected standby allows Win 8 to receive updates while in sleep mode (like a phone) and Instant On allows alarms to wake up the device even if its asleep or turned off. Both of which sound very handy..

There's no word if these new tablets will support either function and most reviews suck so I doubt we'll find out until they're fully in the wild.

Sri.Theo fucked around with this message at Oct 19, 2013 around 15:10

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

They say I'm a madman...
But I'm not mad
at anybody

Honest, I'm not.


lostleaf posted:

Call me Charlie, you might want to update the OP for the lenovo miix 2. The stylus is actually passive not active. reference link

Thanks I added that.

I was putting together the 11 inch section but my browser crashed so it maybe a little bit before I can get it up.

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008


Call Me Charlie posted:

Thanks I added that.

Technically you can use a passive stylus with anything, as its just a replacement for a finger. So there's no point in putting it in as bullet point.

Zarfol
Aug 13, 2009


I've preordered a surface pro 2, 128 GB version. Still wondering if the 2lb weight makes in feasible to use as a tablet for an extended period of time and or if it would cause wrist strain to hold it up.

I didn't think the power cover was going to make the surface into a clamshell, definitely going to wait and pick that up then instead of a type cover.

Nehefer
Aug 9, 2008


I don't think it does, it looks like any other cover.

mrpeaches
Jan 12, 2005


Zarfol posted:

I've preordered a surface pro 2, 128 GB version. Still wondering if the 2lb weight makes in feasible to use as a tablet for an extended period of time and or if it would cause wrist strain to hold it up.

I didn't think the power cover was going to make the surface into a clamshell, definitely going to wait and pick that up then instead of a type cover.

It doesn't look like it does. According to pictures here it looks like the standard type cover but just thicker.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005

OFFICIAL BITCH OF DANBO DAXTER

My bad. I thought it was more like the Asus Transformer dock keyboard. Didn't mean to get anyone's hopes up!

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

They say I'm a madman...
But I'm not mad
at anybody

Honest, I'm not.


AnandTech reviewed the ASUS Transformer Book T100 a few days ago.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7428/...ook-t100-review

Intel Atom Z3740 seems to be on par with the AMD A4-5000 processor and nearly double the AMD E-350, which was the old netbook standard. And 8.68 hour battery life is pretty impressive.

quote:

The Transformer Book T100 is really the Wintel campís answer to the Chromebook onslaught. Compared to the traditional entry-level PCs out there, the T100 really is a breath of fresh air. You get an IPS panel, great battery life and modern WiFi all in a package that can work as both a notebook and a tablet. The system is responsive and predictable in its performance thanks to the use of solid state storage. While there isnít a full blown SSD inside, the eMMC solution is clearly better for light consumer workloads than a mechanical disk. Solid performance from the rear facing speakers and excellent portability round out the T100ís package. If I had to compare it to what youíd normally expect to get from a $349/$399 Windows PC, Iíd say the Transformer Book T100 is a clear winner.

Where things get complicated is if/when you start comparing across platforms. ASUS and Google set the standard for affordable color calibrated displays with the 2013 Nexus 7, and unfortunately the T100 comes no where close to that. Even HPís Chromebook 11 delivers a more accurate out of box experience than the T100. Again, the T100ís display isnít bad, it just desperately needs a factory calibration.

Itís important to keep the T100ís performance in perspective. For light multitasking or single app-use workloads, the T100 does very well (much better than the Chromebook 11 we just reviewed). Light browsing and document work are at home on the T100. Donít expect it to be a Haswell replacement though. I would like to see the gap narrow between Intelís Atom and Core lines, but Iím afraid itís going to take real performance pressure from a competitor before we ever see that day.

The dock experience on the T100 is reasonable, but itís clear to me that the Transformer Book T100 is first and foremost a tablet, and only serves as a clamshell device as a secondary function. Thatís not to say it makes for a bad notebook experience, it can just be cramped as a result of the 10.1-inch display footprint. If youíre looking for a device that youíll use mostly as a tablet but want the flexibility of turning it into a notebook when you need to, the T100 can definitely fit the bill. If your desire is primarily for a touchscreen notebook, then the T100ís tradeoffs may be more frustrating.

At the end of the day the T100 is a good device, but like the Chromebook 11 we recently reviewed it couldíve been amazing with a few tweaks. With a less reflective display, color calibration at the factory and a better feeling keyboard/trackpad Iíd be absolutely in love with the T100. I also wonder if 10.1-inches is the right form factor for this sort of a device. Iím not sure that Microsoftís decision to go with 10.6-inches is the right one either, but the typing experience on a Surfaceís type/touch covers does feel remarkably less cramped.

The T100 truly lives up to the Transformer brand. The combination of Intel's Bay Trail silicon and ASUS' mechanicals gives the device a dual personality. In tablet mode it's just as portable as any other 10-inch tablet, while in clamshell mode it can be a netbook-style ultraportable PC. Iíd love to see ASUS continue down this path and truly try to perfect the device. I look at the work that ASUS and Google do together and canít help but wonder what the T100 would look like if it had the same sort of pressure/influence. Perhaps thatís a bigger criticism of how Microsoft works with its partners, but I look at the comparison of ASUS tablets with and without Googleís influence and try to imagine a further polished Transformer Book. Thatís something Iíd really like to see.

There are very few perfect computing devices out there, but ASUS is one of the companies with the ability to build one if it really tries.

Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at Oct 20, 2013 around 20:09

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things

Apparently dell has a 11" venue pro with i5 option for a rumored $499 with pen support. If that is true I will buy that poo poo so fast it will leave a burn mark on the credit card machine.

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

They say I'm a madman...
But I'm not mad
at anybody

Honest, I'm not.


keyframe posted:

Apparently dell has a 11" venue pro with i5 option for a rumored $499 with pen support. If that is true I will buy that poo poo so fast it will leave a burn mark on the credit card machine.

$499 is the base model with Atom. There's going to be i3 and i5 options but no word on how much they'll cost.



Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at Oct 20, 2013 around 21:30

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things

Call Me Charlie posted:

$499 is the base model with Atom. There's going to be i3 and i5 options but no word on how much they'll cost.

Ah ok, I know that was too good to be true.

Ragingsheep
Nov 7, 2009


How do the new Atoms compare to (my old) AMD Phenom II X4 965 in performance?

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006
CRYBABY FUCK


Sri.Theo posted:

Same here, although as the pen requires a battery it seems to be some unique technology. It will be interesting to see how well it works along with palm detection.

Active digitizers always require some kind of power source. Wacom's desktop models get around the issue by sending power to the pen through the sensing grid, but it's cheaper, easier, and more efficient to just design a pen with a battery.

Ragingsheep posted:

How do the new Atoms compare to (my old) AMD Phenom II X4 965 in performance?

They're quite a bit slower - roughly comparable to laptop CPUs from the late Core 2 era. That's still quite fast by tablet standards, but keep in mind that you're comparing a low-end mobile CPU with a power budget of about two watts to a slightly aged midrange desktop CPU that could chew through as much as 125W.

mAlfunkti0n
May 19, 2004


I don't know why I want one of these Venue 8's so badly, but I do. I've been planning on the new iPad for awhile now .. but I also find having a full x86 installation of windows in tablet form would be .. interesting at least.

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008


This image makes the bottom slots look not so ugly, I hope that there are places to see these in person soon in the UK, as its pretty hard to find decent shots of that edge.

Space Gopher posted:

Active digitizers always require some kind of power source. Wacom's desktop models get around the issue by sending power to the pen through the sensing grid, but it's cheaper, easier, and more efficient to just design a pen with a battery.
I did not know that, so thanks. Are you aware of any other tablets that use synaptic's technology in this way? I'd love to check out some reviews.

Sri.Theo fucked around with this message at Oct 21, 2013 around 19:27

Ragingsheep
Nov 7, 2009


Space Gopher posted:

They're quite a bit slower - roughly comparable to laptop CPUs from the late Core 2 era. That's still quite fast by tablet standards, but keep in mind that you're comparing a low-end mobile CPU with a power budget of about two watts to a slightly aged midrange desktop CPU that could chew through as much as 125W.
Thanks. Might wait and see how the i3 models go.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

IT'S INCISIVE COMMENTARY!


How long do you guys think it'll be before the new wave of Lenovo devices are released and reviewed? My W510 finally shat itself and died (I blame Acer's firmware updates, because it was working fine with 8.1 before those things came down the pipe) and I dunno if I'm ready to commit to a Surface Pro 2 without seeing some of the competition.

Malmanous
Mar 28, 2008


My Surface pro 2 came in this morning. I've been using a Sony Vaio duo for the last year, and this seems to be much better. The battery life improvements of Haswell are of course awesome, but just the general feel of the device make it seem more like a tablet that can be used as full PC rather than an ultra book which can be used as a tablet.

mAlfunkti0n
May 19, 2004


Bought a Dell Venue 8 Pro to test .. never know it could be amazing and fill my need for something I didn't know I needed.

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things

mAlfunkti0n posted:

Bought a Dell Venue 8 Pro to test .. never know it could be amazing and fill my need for something I didn't know I needed.

Did you receive it already? I can't tell from the way you worded your post.

If you got the pen please test out sketchbook pro (there is a 30 day trial) and let us know if the brush lags when sketching and how it feels in general.

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935
Jul 28, 2006

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ELLAMENNO-P


Is there anything stopping me from installing Visual Studio or Eclipse? Would these IDEs work just the same as on any other desktop computer?

935 fucked around with this message at Oct 22, 2013 around 05:15

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