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Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Vick is the only one I can remember.

e: Oh, and Todd Marinovich.

# ¿ Oct 24, 2013 15:38

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 19:43

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Manziel is almost certain losing Mike Evans so that probably increasing his likelihood of declaring.

Tony Pauline posted:

Texas A&M red-sophomore Mike Evans, also a week three riser, turned in another dominant performance on Saturday, with Auburn victimized this time around. Evans numbers were a jaw-dropping 11 receptions, 287-yards and 4 touchdowns. Sources close to the program told me late last week word is Evans will enter the draft. If true don�t be surprised if he�s the first receiver off the board next April.

# ¿ Oct 24, 2013 16:51

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Doltos posted:

Evans is gonna be a unique prospect because I feel like half of his catches come from grabbing a floater while standing perfectly still with 3 defenders around him 5 seconds after the ball is snapped. He doesn't seem fast or quick at all, at least NFL fast for WRs. He might legitimately be the heir to Mike Williams.

It'll be interesting to watch the top WR prospects for me since the prevailing talk* is the Jets adding weapons on offense. Right now I think I'd prefer Marqise Lee as the more polished route runner, although he seems to have the injury flags coming up.

*They'll end up drafting defense

# ¿ Oct 24, 2013 17:05

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Jets will have at least 10 as well. Bucs 3rd rounder plus 3-4 comp picks from the LaRon Landry, Shonn Greene, Mike DeVito, and Dustin Keller group.

# ¿ Oct 25, 2013 15:10

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

superaielman posted:

The NFL usually only gives 1-2 comp picks out, I thought. I know the Packers will get a decent one from Erik Walden/Greg Jennings at least.

The max they give is 4, although it depends on how many other team are getting them. Idzik was careful to only sign players that had been cut, which don't count against the formula for negating your comp picks.

# ¿ Oct 25, 2013 16:30

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

The stink of not winning playoff games doesn't come off in the media. It'll be brought up forever. Peyton still gets poo poo about his losing record.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2013 12:49

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Is it too early for draft positioning? These SoS ranking are based on full schedules not just games played. Only glitch is Jags 0-8 should be worse than 0-7, however if they end up with the same record, Bucs could conceivably get the #1 with an easier SoS.

code:

Team				Win%	SoS
1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers		0.000	0.562
2. Jacksonville Jaguars		0.000	0.567
3. Minnesota Vikings		0.143	0.533
4. New York Giants		0.250	0.550
5. Pittsburgh Steelers		0.286	0.508
6. St. Louis Rams (via WAS)	0.286	0.516
7. Atlanta Falcons		0.286	0.529
8. Houston Texans		0.286	0.554
9. Philadelphia Eagles		0.375	0.475
10. Buffalo Bills		0.375	0.500
11. Cleveland Browns		0.375	0.508
12. St. Louis Rams		0.375	0.533
13. Miami Dolphins		0.429	0.508
14. Tennessee Titans		0.429	0.512
15. Baltimore Ravens		0.429	0.512
16. Oakland Raiders		0.429	0.537

# ¿ Oct 29, 2013 15:22

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Hey guys let's see how mind numbingly dull we can make bewbies' awesome NFL Draft thread.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2013 19:11

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Kim Jong Il posted:

Does anyone else remember that game where Akili Smith looked amazing against the Jets? Then he got hurt again, and promptly disappeared.

Looks like he only played 1 game against the Jets and he was 4/6 and was knocked out in the 2nd quarter.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200112160nyj.htm

e: Oh my god he only had 1 game in his career with a Y/A over 6.

# ¿ Oct 30, 2013 00:31

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Yeah Gabbert was definitely high on the draft board, enough so that Tennessee taking Locker over him was a pretty decent surprise.

scouts inc posted:

7. 49ers - Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
Gabbert has the tools and intangibles to succeed, and if he falls this far it would be a pleasant surprise for new head coach Jim Harbaugh.

Ahhh Alternate Universe mock drafts :allears:

# ¿ Oct 31, 2013 14:53

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Bortles! He's definitely staying another year though.

# ¿ Oct 31, 2013 16:13

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Wario Kart 64 posted:

It's a fun waste of time to go through the years. What the gently caress is a Vidal Hazelton, anyway?

Practice squad WR for the Jets! He's been on IR since the preseason.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2013 16:56

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

euphronius posted:

Why don't you ever see TEs taller than about 6-5 or 6-6. Do they make them tackles if they are even taller? (Or power forwards.)

PFR says there have been 33 TEs 6'7" or greater in the post-merger era versus 195 offensive linemen, 81 defensive lineman, and 8 of every other position combined.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2013 16:10

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Volkerball posted:

The curse of the early declaration strikes again. Bradford is 25 and has a 90 QB rating with no receiving help. Chill out.

No receiving help is a bit much. They've invested heavily in his receiving options in recent years. It's not like they're running out guys off the street.

code:

WR
Austin Pettis	2011, 3rd round
Brian Quick	2012, 2nd round
Chris Givens	2012, 4th round
Tavon Austin 	2013, 1st round
Stedman Bailey 	2013, 3rd round

TE
Lance Kendricks 2011, 2nd round
Jared Cook 	FA, 5/$35m

# ¿ Nov 4, 2013 20:20

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

I give the Rams credit for at least trying to give him weapons though, specifically since my team has drafted exactly 2 receiving options with a high draft pick in the past decade, Dustin Keller and Stephen Hill. :suicide:

# ¿ Nov 4, 2013 20:31

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Updated non-playoff draft order with full-season SoS. Giants plummet to #10.

code:

Team			Win%	SoS
1. Jacksonville Jaguars	0.111	0.537
2. Tampa Bay Buccaneers	0.111	0.568
3. Atlanta Falcons	0.222	0.537
4. Minnesota Vikings	0.222	0.541
5. Houston Texans	0.222	0.555
6. Buffalo Bills	0.300	0.517
7. Pittsburgh Steelers	0.333	0.490
8. Washington Redskins	0.333	0.514
9. Oakland Raiders	0.333	0.541
10. New York Giants	0.333	0.557
11. St. Louis Rams	0.400	0.537
12. Baltimore Ravens	0.444	0.497
13. Cleveland Browns	0.444	0.497
14. Miami Dolphins	0.444	0.497
15. Tennessee Titans	0.444	0.507
16. San Diego Chargers	0.444	0.537
17. Philadelphia Eagles	0.500	0.479
18. Green Bay Packers	0.556	0.456
19. Chicago Bears	0.556	0.473
20. Arizona Cardinals	0.556	0.523

# ¿ Nov 13, 2013 13:54

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Updated with full season SoS.

code:

				Win%	SoS
1. Jacksonville Jaguars		0.182	0.523
2. Houston Texans		0.182	0.551
3. Atlanta Falcons		0.182	0.565
4. Minnesota Vikings		0.227	0.528
5. St. Louis Rams (via WAS)	0.273	0.500
6. Tampa Bay Buccaneers		0.273	0.574
7. Cleveland Browns		0.364	0.494
8. Buffalo Bills		0.364	0.511
9. Oakland Raiders		0.364	0.517
10. New York Giants		0.364	0.540
11. Pittsburgh Steelers		0.455	0.472
12. Baltimore Ravens		0.455	0.483
13. New York Jets		0.455	0.489
14. Miami Dolphins		0.455	0.506
15. San Diego Chargers		0.455	0.517
16. St. Louis Rams		0.455	0.557
17. Green Bay Packers		0.500	0.443
18. Chicago Bears		0.545	0.466
19. Philadelphia Eagles		0.545	0.472
20. Arizona Cardinals		0.636	0.534

# ¿ Nov 26, 2013 14:24

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Bortles owns but I was thinking late 1st ceiling, likely 2nd or 3rd round if he came out. Could have the highest drafted UCF player since Daunte.

quote:

UCF junior quarterback Blake Bortles reportedly is the No. 1 quarterback on the board for a team likely to draft in the top 10, Sports Illustrated NFL writer Peter King said Sunday night.

Bortles (6-foot-4, 230 pounds) has said he will make an NFL decision after the Knights' appearance in the Jan. 1 Fiesta Bowl against Baylor.

"The fastest-rising quarterback in the first round, should he choose to come out, is fourth-year junior Blake Bortles," the Orlando Sentinel reported King as saying Sunday night during NBC's "Football Night in America" broadcast. "I've spoken to a team that's likely to have a top-10 pick, and they like him better than any quarterback in this draft."

And in his weekly "MMQB" column, King wrote, "I know one team that, as of now, thinks it's no sure thing [Louisville's] Teddy Bridgewater will be the top quarterback on its board. ... Moreover, this team believes Blake Bortles or [Texas A&M's] Johnny Manziel could be the top quarterback on the board."

# ¿ Dec 17, 2013 16:30

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Here's McShay's 1.0 mock. Accuracy isn't expected since his first mock last year had Star, Damontre Moore, and Bjoern Werner 1-3.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/story/_/id/10150969/2014-nfl-mock-draft-todd-mcshay-projects-every-first-round-pick

quote:

1. HOU - Teddy Bridgewater QB
2. STL - Jake Matthews OT
3. OAK - Blake Bortles QB
4. JAX - Johnny Manziel QB
5. ATL - Jadeveon Clowney DE
6. CLE - Derek Carr QB
7. TB - Anthony Barr OLB
8. MIN - Khalil Mack OLB
9. BUF - Taylor Lewan OT
10. TEN - Cyrus Kouandjio OT
11. NYG - CJ Mosley OLB
12. PIT - Louis Nix NT
13. NYJ - Sammy Watkins WR
14. STL - Ha Ha Clinton-Dix S
15. DET - Marqise Lee WR
16. DAL - Stephon Tuitt DL
17. SD - Justin Gilbert CB
18. GB - Eric Ebron TE
19. PHI - Ifo Ekpre-Olomu CB
20. BAL - Mike Evans WR
21. CHI - Dominique Easley DL
22. MIA - Timmy Jernigan DT
23. CLE - Jordan Matthews WR
24. CIN - Scott Crichton DE
25. ARI - Morgan Moses OT
26. NE - Darqueze Dennard CB
27. CAR - Kelvin Benjamin WR
28. SF - Ra'Shede Hageman DT
29. NO - Marcus Roberson CB
30. KC - Paul Richardson WR
31. DEN - Zack Martin OT
32. SEA - Antonio Richardson OT

# ¿ Dec 18, 2013 23:21

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

BlindSite posted:

Unless one of them fails a piss test or gets glassed in a bar fight, pretty much.

I don't think anyone knows that until the combine. Lets look at a mock from January 2013 and see how wildly innacurate it is.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/mock-drafts/gil-brandt/155116

# ¿ Dec 30, 2013 05:58

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

XxGirlKisserxX posted:

You're just making poo poo up.

Let's reminisce about Bradford v Clausen write-ups.

http://walterfootball.com/jimmyclausensambradford.php

# ¿ Dec 30, 2013 17:01

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

They regularly update their mock draft database though!

http://walterfootball.com/draftdata.php

# ¿ Dec 30, 2013 17:14

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

If you don't love Manziel and want him to own on your team for whatever length of time then you're an objectively bad fan of football. That was awesome.

# ¿ Jan 1, 2014 07:16

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Interesting. Brugler was the first one calling Fisher the #1 last year. Phil Savage obviously has NFL connections.

quote:

@dpbrugler
I mentioned this last night but BOB saw Bortles up close this year and had HIGH praise for the UCF QB. Darkhorse candidate for No. 1 overall

@MockingTheDraft
I agree with @dpbrugler big time on Blake Bortles being a possible No. 1 pick with Bill O'Brien as head coach in Houston.

@SeniorBowlPhil
Bill O'Brien to @HoustonTexans = UCF QB Blake Bortles (if he declares) in mix for #1 pick overall. Golden Knights beat PSU 34-31 in Sept.

# ¿ Jan 1, 2014 20:09

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Benne posted:

A.J. McCarron is skipping the Senior Bowl

That seems like a really poor decision. Guess he's fine with the 3-4th round.

# ¿ Jan 1, 2014 23:00

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

swickles posted:

To be fair there is something funky with the field and it really seems to be affecting receivers routes. Instead of water they must have just sprayed astroglide everywhere.

# ¿ Jan 2, 2014 04:46

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

The Roethlisberger/Locker comparisons are pretty apt. His accuracy this game seems down but it obviously hasn't caused that much of an issue.

# ¿ Jan 2, 2014 06:24

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Do Bucs fans not think Glennon is worth a drat? Not sure how he projects as far as upside but I thought he had a pretty nice year for a rookie.

# ¿ Jan 2, 2014 18:33

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

This is something the NYPost did today.

# ¿ Jan 2, 2014 19:13

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

What's the deal with Brandin Cooks? Height is obviously an issue but I assume he's now in the 1st round range with the Biletnikoff award. Dude is stupidly fast.

He also just declared.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2014 00:02

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Mike Evans' ceiling is probably Vincent Jackson, which is still a pretty awesome ceiling to have.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2014 14:23

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

McNair totally wants JFF without taking him at #1.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10238006/houston-texans-owner-bob-mcnair-open-trading-no-1-pick

# ¿ Jan 3, 2014 20:08

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

We're totally trading up for Watkins with Rex's son in the same positional meetings. Just kidding we'll trade up for Vic Beasley instead.

# ¿ Jan 4, 2014 16:07

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Brett Hundley is staying in school, per Schefter. Probably a good idea.

# ¿ Jan 5, 2014 16:29

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Matt Miller, B/R (@nfldraftscout), has his underclassmen talent grades here if you need an additional resource.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArsvXM5M8f44dDVtdUxFTVZ5Q0o4UFBTdlZLOHFDOEE&usp=drive_web#gid=0

# ¿ Jan 6, 2014 15:25

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

dphi posted:

De'Anthony Thomas declared, after a season of several missed games due to injury. Really thought he could benefit from another year, is he going to get picked up for anything other than return duty?

I always figured he'd be converted to a slot receiver in the NFL. He has the same measurables as Tavon Austin and I think most people have him graded as a 3rd rounder, but I wouldn't be surprised if he goes much higher once he tests at the Combine.

# ¿ Jan 6, 2014 16:26

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Rookie WR with Brian Schottenheimer and Kellen Clemens. I was very high on Austin; still am.

# ¿ Jan 6, 2014 16:38

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Storm Johnson is also declaring for some reason. His ceiling is maybe a 4th rounder? Probably not a good decision.

# ¿ Jan 6, 2014 19:54

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Seastrunk is also declaring fwiw.

# ¿ Jan 6, 2014 20:06

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 19:43

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Bishop is an amazing first name but it's ruined with Sankey. Guess T-Mase/3-Mase wins by default.

e: In other news, Manziel was at a FSU club and there's video. Manziel rules. Him in New York would be a beautiful unicorn.

http://instagram.com/p/i1WKFCiMzd/

Diva Cupcake fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jan 6, 2014

# ¿ Jan 6, 2014 20:41

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