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Bacter
Jan 27, 2012

Nie wywoluj wilka z lasu, glupku.
See, this is the kind of tiny sub-sub-sub rule leading to insanity exploits that makes me glad that Elfred is ostensibly on my team.

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kaiten80
Oct 31, 2012
Oh man, this thread is gonna be great. I've already reinstalled the game just based on the nostalgia factor from the first video. Now I can play along at home!

Mzbundifund
Nov 5, 2011

I'm afraid so.

Bacter posted:

See, this is the kind of tiny sub-sub-sub rule leading to insanity exploits that makes me glad that Elfred is ostensibly on my team.

hahahahahahahaha

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Huh. I never knew you could equip your character by just dumping stuff onto the paperdoll. Always clicked on the slots themselves...

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Mzbundifund posted:

hahahahahahahaha

What a jovial and trustworthy man this Elfred chap is!

Tin Tim
Jun 4, 2012

Live by the pun - Die by the pun

Haha, that was a great exploit! Looking forward to the rest of this, as I already enjoyed your A&A Lp.

I played the hell out of BG2 back in the day, but never actually wanted to play the first game with the old engine. So thanks for showing me this updated version! Though I gotta say, Imoen's old face looks really weird in comparision to her face in BG2.

Kloro
Oct 24, 2008

Fancy a grown man saying hujus hujus hujus as if he were proud of it it is not english and do not make SENSE.
Summon Familiar is a BG2 addition, in case anyone was wondering, so there are several exploits possible if you've got it available in BG1. I'm pretty sure Mzbundifund is clued-up enough to show my absolute favourite (which will probably be in the next Bonus update).

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.
My friend regales me with tales of Baldur's gate all the time and I've had light experience with it. Your run is something I'm watching closely, you two have an all-around interesting setup.

Toes
Dec 6, 2011

Clods to the left of me,
Bookahs to the right.
I'm so glad you two are doing Baldur's Gate. The sequel is one of my favorite games of all time but I could never get through the original. Will you be letting the viewers choose your companions or will the duo be doing it on your own mostly? Minus Imoen to make up for your abhorrent social grace? Holy poo poo how are you worst then Imoen?!

Also, you need t o bring back the pineapple of death.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

Mzbundifund posted:

Indeed, this is a shameful suggestion. You don't need to resort to save file manipulation to get that wand.

I did not see that coming. :allears:

Bacter
Jan 27, 2012

Nie wywoluj wilka z lasu, glupku.
Let me just say: anybody who had played D&D is going to LOVE the first 5 minutes of the next update

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

Bacter posted:

Let me just say: anybody who had played D&D is going to LOVE the first 5 minutes of the next update

Wolves or gibberlings? :allears:

EDIT: vvvv We are off to an amazing start.

Mordaedil fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Nov 4, 2013

Bacter
Jan 27, 2012

Nie wywoluj wilka z lasu, glupku.
Just change that logical operator, and you'll be right on!

Choronzons son
Mar 1, 2011
Running from Wolves into Gibberlings or the other way around?

Never did the familiar pickpocket trick. A cool thing to do, especially when going solo, is to just quaff that potion of speed in the fight tutorial before leaving with Gorion. Turbo kiting > regular kiting.

KaoliniteMilkshake
Jul 9, 2010

Bacter posted:

Just change that logical operator, and you'll be right on!

You have my attention. Baldur's Gate, from what I can remember, does not waste time in informing you very clearly how much the world hates your desire to exist.

I like the amount of editing you have, from the first zone. It might be a little more clear after the first area, but this game's freedom to let you dick around and explore its world does lead to a vast amount of dead time and backtracking, which is probably the only part of it I didn't love to death. You've cut exactly that out, and I appreciate it.

Tzarnal
Dec 26, 2011

KaoliniteMilkshake posted:

You have my attention. Baldur's Gate, from what I can remember, does not waste time in informing you very clearly how much the world hates your desire to exist.

I like the amount of editing you have, from the first zone. It might be a little more clear after the first area, but this game's freedom to let you dick around and explore its world does lead to a vast amount of dead time and backtracking, which is probably the only part of it I didn't love to death. You've cut exactly that out, and I appreciate it.

I've played BG1 many a time, and I find that most of my runs end because I finally reach Baldurs Gate itself. Its just that coming up to that city and its 500 sidequests that require you to walk over the place is a massive chore to me. The wilderness areas are preferable because they are mostly neat self contained little things you can handle in chunks as you want. While the storyline dungeons and the expansion content is more linear it also does not present a massive headache where the best option is to just enter every house and talk to every npc until you collected and finished every sidequest.

citybeatnik
Mar 1, 2013

You Are All
WEIRDOS




Tzarnal posted:

I've played BG1 many a time, and I find that most of my runs end because I finally reach Baldurs Gate itself. Its just that coming up to that city and its 500 sidequests that require you to walk over the place is a massive chore to me. The wilderness areas are preferable because they are mostly neat self contained little things you can handle in chunks as you want. While the storyline dungeons and the expansion content is more linear it also does not present a massive headache where the best option is to just enter every house and talk to every npc until you collected and finished every sidequest.
The only thing that led to me activating the cheat console for my latest play through of IWD and BG2 was to give me the ability to just warp my party around quickly to just avoid all of the drat backtracking.

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

citybeatnik posted:

The only thing that led to me activating the cheat console for my latest play through of IWD and BG2 was to give me the ability to just warp my party around quickly to just avoid all of the drat backtracking.

That's one of the few cheats that I feel is acceptable in this series of games, although it can break scripting pretty badly sometimes.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

Green Intern posted:

That's one of the few cheats that I feel is acceptable in this series of games, although it can break scripting pretty badly sometimes.

This also sadly had the consequence of leading to Bioware and Obsidian Entertainment to opt to leave out dimension door and teleport spells from Neverwinter Nights.

:smithicide: I missed those spells.

citybeatnik
Mar 1, 2013

You Are All
WEIRDOS




Green Intern posted:

That's one of the few cheats that I feel is acceptable in this series of games, although it can break scripting pretty badly sometimes.

I tend to only use it when retreading over an area - such as Dragon's Eye's lower levels, where I slink away to rest in between waves of snake-men.

Or is it Sputnik
Aug 22, 2009

Oh, Ho-oh oh oh, oh whoa oh oh oh
I'll get 'em caught, show Oak what I've got
Sure doesn't help that you can't run in the original game. You could in Throne of Bhaal, and Planescape had a "toggle run", but everything about BG1 is just... so.. slow...
The bad THAC0 ("you don't hit often") combined with the asynchrony of fight animations certainly adds to the idea that this is a game where not a lot of things happen.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
A comprehensive video LP of Baldur's Gate?

Good luck. I like the commentary you've got going so far, with the occasional explanation of some of the minutiae of AD&D 2E.

George Rouncewell
Jul 20, 2007

You think that's illegal? Heh, watch this.
Did the update get lost on the way?

I want to see this game broken horribly & i lust for gibberling death

Mzbundifund
Nov 5, 2011

I'm afraid so.
Bacter has been traveling for a couple weeks, but will be back in town soonish. In retrospect we probably should have waited to post the thread until he was back, but I think if you are checking your calendar to decide the optimum time to post your LP you are probably giving too much attention to LPs.

He did send a present, though.

Insurrectionist
May 21, 2007
Truly some impressive display of finger athletics.

Seriously though, I don't know why they even bother putting games like Boxknox on these things, when the touchscreen is always so terrible for them. They should stick to cardgames and the like.

bad boyfriend worse lay
Feb 18, 2011

And when they went,
I heard the noise of their wings,
like the noise of great waters.
Judging by the picture there's no high score screen for BoxKnox, which is disappointing because I can only imagine the frustration of the next player (How often does a touchscreen boxing game on an Ethiopian Airlines flight get played?) trying to beat Bacter's one win.

Choronzons son
Mar 1, 2011

Boxknox posted:

AWW!
Was this opponent
too tough for you?

This should be every game over message.

Teledahn
May 14, 2009

What is that bear doing there?


Bacter is great and truly a dedicated Lper, to be providing glorious entertainment while on vacation.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Has he returned from his plane-game adventure?

insanityv2
May 15, 2011

I'm gay
He was chatting with us yesterday in the Blackwell LP thread so I would guess so.

We're all itching for more bactorc.

SirDifferential
Sep 19, 2012
I'll be following this thread. I got this game from GOG a while ago, but the game threw a random encounter against me after I left the starting town and some wolves or something killed me. I never got further than 5~ map locations. I think your way of doing this LP is pretty good as I don't think I could read through one of those 100 update screenshot LPs of Baldur's Gate.

Mzbundifund
Nov 5, 2011

I'm afraid so.
Hi! Bacter's back and so is this LP. If the video is only available in garbage resolution, give Youtube some more time to process it, I've only just uploaded it.




From now on, any new spells we see will get a little description here, so you can recognize the dozens of little icons and effects as they show up in the videos.



- Sleep is far and away the best spell for wizards at this stage of the game. Quick to cast, only affects enemies, completely incapacitates all enemies in the area-of-effect for 5 rounds per level of the caster. It's possible for enemies to save against this spell, but they do so at a hefty -3 penalty. To make matters worse, attacks against sleeping foes cannot miss! 5 free rounds of even our feeble attacks is enough to slaughter anything we are likely to encounter at this stage. The downside? Elves and anything level 4 or higher are completely immune to this spell. This will be Elfred's go-to spell for a while, until it suddenly becomes worthless as we encounter higher-level enemies.

Mirror Image is a level 2 wizard spell, and one of the best defensive spells for a while. Tarnesh always opens with this intimidating effect. Surrounds the caster with 2-8 identical images. Any incoming attack will randomly hit one with even odds, so Tarnesh's three mirror images gave him a 75% chance to just flat-out ignore any incoming attack. If an image gets hit, it is destroyed, so it's possible to wear this spell down through attrition. Fast weak attacks are optimal, since they can chew through images faster.



- Command is sort of the cleric's budget version of Sleep. Only affects one target, and only lasts for one round. Command would be strictly inferior to Sleep, except for its even faster casting time, and that fact that it cannot be resisted whatsoever unless the enemy is level 6 or higher. Even high level enemies can fail their save, so Command can still be useful against foes that Sleep can't touch.

- Cure Light Wounds is just what it says on the tin. Heals 8 hit points, which is enough to heal any of our current party to full in a single cast. Like most healing spells, it has a long casting time and very short range, so it's impractical to use in the heat of combat.

Dickey Butts
Feb 3, 2008

Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
Glad to hear that Bacter is back and this lp is going on again! That Bear was a great way to start out real combat.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Bear to Dire Wolf to Diseased Gibberlings. Beautiful.

e: Imoen's perfect kill of Tarnesh was amazing too. If my working is right, 1/5 chance of aiming for the right image, 1/20 of critting and 1/6 of max damage makes the whole thing a one in 600 shot. Annoying voice and pink tunic be damned, the girl's got some chops.

sebzilla fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Nov 22, 2013

sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





Really that's the only way this could open up. With death by wolf.

Kobold eBooks
Mar 5, 2007

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AN OPEN PALM SLAM A CARTRIDGE IN THE SUPER FAMICOM. ITS E-ZEAO AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE THE MAIN CHARACTER, CORPORAL FALCOM.

sebzilla posted:

Bear to Dire Wolf to Diseased Gibberlings. Beautiful.

e: Imoen's perfect kill of Tarnesh was amazing too. If my working is right, 1/5 chance of aiming for the right image, 1/20 of critting and 1/6 of max damage makes the whole thing a one in 600 shot. Annoying voice and pink tunic be damned, the girl's got some chops.

The best part was her squeaky declaration of "My blade'll cut 'ya down to size!" right before she viciously stabbed his face off.(Spoiled for people who haven't seen the video yet.)

Bacter
Jan 27, 2012

Nie wywoluj wilka z lasu, glupku.
One reason I'm glad I'm playing this with Bundifund is that I absolutely would have tried to go for a pure melee specialist on my first run-through, on the assumption that seven foot orc with a hammer is easy mode, as it is in most fantasy games.

I didn't play a lot of D&D, is what I'm saying.

Also, I should say, for a guy who's totally new to this game, from the first combat to the last combat in this update is almost magical - I get why this game was really popular. I leveled in ability, not in stats, which is my favorite way to level.

Bacter fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Nov 22, 2013

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
Imoen was absolutely worth the wait.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters
This LP is already thoroughly entertaining. I admit I'm thoroughly shocked that the vanilla game ended up being more functional in multiplayer than the EE.

I tried like hell to get vanilla BG working multiplayer with a buddy, up to using some dubious service called Evolve, and could not get a drop of blood from that stone :argh:

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sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





^^
Actually I think as of the last patch the EE netcode is a lot more stable. But I haven't tested it yet.

Bacter posted:

One reason I'm glad I'm playing this with Bundifund is that I absolutely would have tried to go for a pure melee specialist on my first run-through, on the assumption that seven foot orc with a hammer is easy mode, as it is in most fantasy games.

I didn't play a lot of D&D, is what I'm saying.

Also, I should say, for a guy who's totally new to this game, from the first combat to the last combat in this update is almost magical - I get why this game was really popular. I leveled in ability, not in stats, which is my favorite way to level.

A melee specialist wouldn't be terrible. But at level 1 everyone sucks. Well except archers. Archers are kinda crazy in BG.

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