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pvax
Aug 6, 2001

ARGH! ... gently caress poo poo piss ... lost my job a month or two ago and had to cancel ALL my pre-orders. Of course, now I see the launch trailer and that LOTUS F1 CAR!!!!!

gently caress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edit: Thanks.

Well, at least I have something to look forward to later on :)

pvax fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Nov 5, 2013

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Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Condolences, Pvax. Being out of work is a nightmare. Best wishes to you and to yours.

Southpaw
Mar 9, 2006
Ugg, that trailer. I'm trying to resist getting an Xbone, that crap is making it difficult.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Southpaw posted:

Ugg, that trailer. I'm trying to resist getting an Xbone, that crap is making it difficult.

A few weeks ago I cancelled my preorder and replaced it with a preorder of GT6 since I already have a PS3 and a wheel that will work with it. That preview has convinced me I made a huge mistake.

I'll wait for the wheel situation to settle down (need an H-pattern shifter and clutch). FM5 will still be there when the wheel support arrives.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
I have two Xbones on pre-order, and for the low, low price of retail + $400 you can have my second one (and subsidize my new thrustmaster wheel!)


(Holy god that trailer)

Wiseblood
Dec 31, 2000

Man, some of the details are amazing. They even got the movements of the 'Cuda's intake.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

GutBomb posted:

A few weeks ago I cancelled my preorder and replaced it with a preorder of GT6 since I already have a PS3 and a wheel that will work with it. That preview has convinced me I made a huge mistake.

I'll wait for the wheel situation to settle down (need an H-pattern shifter and clutch). FM5 will still be there when the wheel support arrives.
I love you GB, but it's about time you ate a *little* crow. :cheeky:

Delusibeta
Aug 7, 2013

Let's ride together.

Ether Frenzy posted:

I have two Xbones on pre-order, and for the low, low price of retail + $400 you can have my second one (and subsidize my new thrustmaster wheel!)


(Holy god that trailer)

I'd take it for retail - $400. :v:

But yeah, Forza is the one Microsoft franchise that I miss from my 360 days.

speedtek
Nov 26, 2004

Let's make it out, baby.
Welp, looks like I'll be mowing some lawns before the snow comes. Anyone need their computer fixed?

Tragic Otter
Aug 3, 2000

I love that the trailer ends with an open-wheel racer sprinting balls-out, just to show the sense of speed.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

I really want this game, but I don't want the system that it's on. Very conflicted. :v: I'll just have to admire all of the user made screenshots that will be hitting the internet in less then a month.

Tragic Otter
Aug 3, 2000

I'm not sure why people are hesitant to buy a console that lets them play the game they want to play. Isn't that the point?

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


Faceless Clock posted:

I'm not sure why people are hesitant to buy a console that lets them play the game they want to play. Isn't that the point?

I dont want to rehash the same old stupid Xbox One bashing but I think the point is that nearly everyone here who is a huge Forza fan has literally no other titles that interest them on the Xbox One, thus it seems like a huge price of entry to continue playing just one game.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Faceless Clock posted:

I'm not sure why people are hesitant to buy a console that lets them play the game they want to play. Isn't that the point?

Basically what Basticle said. The Xbox One has no value to me other than Forza 5. That wasn't the case with the 360. The console is also way the gently caress overpriced.

burtonos
Aug 17, 2004

...and the angel did say, "go forth, and lay waste to all who oppose you"

Basticle posted:

I dont want to rehash the same old stupid Xbox One bashing but I think the point is that nearly everyone here who is a huge Forza fan has literally no other titles that interest them on the Xbox One, thus it seems like a huge price of entry to continue playing just one game.

I think there are 3 games I want for the Xbone. I've wasted more than the cost of a 'bone on games I never really played on the 360.

steckles
Jan 14, 2006

I didn't want an Xbox and then Forza came along, I didn't want a 360 and then Forza 3 came along. Now it's happening again.

Dammit Forza.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Faceless Clock posted:

I'm not sure why people are hesitant to buy a console that lets them play the game they want to play. Isn't that the point?

Most games worth playing will be multiplatform, just as they were this past gen. I see no reason to buy the console that costs $100 more, is less powerful and won't work with any peripherals I bought for its predecessor just for Forza.

General Probe
Dec 28, 2004
Has this been done before?
Soiled Meat
One of the ways I tried to talk myself out of buying an Xbone was the aforementioned "why would I buy it for only 1 game?!" then I remember the only reason I picked up a 360 was for Forza 2, but that wasn't a launch title so I didn't feel so dirty...That said I've got 2 PS3s I can sell, and between those and my games I think I can at least cut the cost of this thing in half.

redhalo
May 19, 2009

Would it make it easier if you told yourself you were buying it for Forza 5, 6 and 7?

WienerDog
Apr 8, 2007
Resident Rocking Dachshund

redhalo posted:

Would it make it easier if you told yourself you were buying it for Forza 5, 6 and 7?

Don't forget Forza Horizons 2 & 3.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

WienerDog posted:

Don't forget Forza Horizons 2 & 3.

I would rather forget Horizons. Unless the next one is just Forza 5 in an open world, it will never be anything more than an arcade game.

Tragic Otter
Aug 3, 2000

Cannot Find Server posted:

Most games worth playing will be multiplatform, just as they were this past gen. I see no reason to buy the console that costs $100 more, is less powerful and won't work with any peripherals I bought for its predecessor just for Forza.

Forza has been THE console racing game of the last generation. If you're big into racing games, that's absolutely worth buying a $500 console for, even if you never buy another game for it (and once you have it, you will).

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Faceless Clock posted:

Forza has been THE console racing game of the last generation. If you're big into racing games, that's absolutely worth buying a $500 console for, even if you never buy another game for it (and once you have it, you will).

I bought a PS3 for GT5 and never bought any other games for it.

Project CARS will be multiplatform and seems very promising and GT6 looks like a good game as well, so I'm not sure this reasoning still holds.

burtonos
Aug 17, 2004

...and the angel did say, "go forth, and lay waste to all who oppose you"
Every other driving game I have played since I started playing Forza has made me mad that I am not playing Forza, so the reasoning sounds pretty tight to me.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Nearly everything except iracing has done that for me.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

WienerDog posted:

Don't forget Forza Horizons 2 & 3.

Is that even going to happen? Forza Horizon bombed in sales. The game is good, it reviewed well, and I personally liked it a lot, but the sales were real bad.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



I said come in! posted:

Is that even going to happen? Forza Horizon bombed in sales.

If they actually figure out who to market another Horizon game to, this wouldn't be a problem. Horizon was a great foundation for a series but it didn't know who to appeal to.

Tyree
Sep 11, 2003

STRETCH

STRETCH

STRETCH

Faceless Clock posted:

Forza has been THE console racing game of the last generation. If you're big into racing games, that's absolutely worth buying a $500 console for, even if you never buy another game for it (and once you have it, you will).

The fact that I can't use my fanatec wheel was the last straw for not getting an xbone for me. I'm not spending 500(console)+60(game)+300-400(wheel)+50(season pass dlc) for one game. Oh and I forgot about getting xbox live.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Tyree posted:

Oh and I forgot about getting xbox live.

To be fair, Xbox Live will almost certainly be down for the first couple days after the Xbone launches anyway (as will PSN). So you don't need it at launch :v:

Dbhjed
Jul 20, 2006

Homework?!
Lipstick Apathy

I said come in! posted:

Basically what Basticle said. The Xbox One has no value to me other than Forza 5. That wasn't the case with the 360. The console is also way the gently caress overpriced.

Same here. Forza is the ONLY reason for me getting an Xbox One. I will not be able to use the camera since my office is tiny and I have a steering wheel setup (for ps3) in it and an arcade cabinet. But knowing this gen might see another 4 to 5 forza games, it would be worth it. Also the free live games.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

Basticle posted:

I dont want to rehash the same old stupid Xbox One bashing but I think the point is that nearly everyone here who is a huge Forza fan has literally no other titles that interest them on the Xbox One, thus it seems like a huge price of entry to continue playing just one game.

Well, you can say that; but there are many cross-platform sports games that I play exclusively on consoles. Don't misunderstand, I will buy a PS4 also, and GT6 when it comes out (no matter how much it loving sucks.)

FPS games I play solely on PC. Sports games I play on consoles. "Killer apps" I think about, but Halo never did it for me (see my previous comment about FPS games) and but for GT there is no "killer app" on the PS now that Tekken is cross-platform.

My main concern is getting an XBone, a wheel, and playing FM5. Everything else comes after.

Cannot Find Server posted:

Most games worth playing will be multiplatform, just as they were this past gen. I see no reason to buy the console that costs $100 more, is less powerful and won't work with any peripherals I bought for its predecessor just for Forza.

"Less powerful" is a canard. The hardware is essentially equal. Yes, I know what you've read and PS looks better on paper; but it's a loving red herring and you know better.

Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Nov 6, 2013

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Dbhjed posted:

But knowing this gen might see another 4 to 5 forza games, it would be worth it. Also the free live games.

Do you expect them to crank them out yearly? I'd be impressed if there were more than 3 Forza titles for the Xbone. And by free live games do you mean the same promotion that has been going on with the 360? Because all of the games they gave away were pretty bad or just old.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Nov 6, 2013

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Dr. Faustus posted:

"Less powerful" is a canard. The hardware is essentially equal. Yes, I know what you've read and PS looks better on paper; but it's a loving red herring and you know better.

A 30% difference in power isn't "essentially equal". Come on dude, they can't even render a loving launch Call of Duty game in full HD on the Xbone, quit lying to yourself. The gap in power between the consoles is gigantic.

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burtonos
Aug 17, 2004

...and the angel did say, "go forth, and lay waste to all who oppose you"

I can't wait to hit you off the track.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



You'll have to wait quite a long time, so have fun!

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?
Okay, a few things from that trailer.

1) The what I can assume is the official Forza theme sounds lovely and I want a copy.

2) Details. Details everywhere. Such as the Plymouth's engine moving under load when revving (you see it's ram air scoop move).

3) The sounds, good god. The off-throttle Lotus E21 sounds pornographic.

Falken fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Nov 6, 2013

Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

I got to play a bit of it today when I went to a Microsoft Store to ask about my phone getting fixed, apparently set it up that day, and while I'm not getting an Xbox One, it runs really nicely. Laguna Seca is absolutely gorgeous in game.

I did have one issue with it, there was a lot of aliasing in the cars, much more than I would expect. I don't know if it was the TV or not but it didn't really look all that great when it was showing off the cars at the starting line. From what I played of it, it's better than the last Forza I played, which wasn't Horizon. Granted it was only 20-30 minutes.



Unfortunately, old men in wheelchairs don't actually appear on the track. Ford Focuses, however, do appear on the track.

Ostentatious fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Nov 6, 2013

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

Cannot Find Server posted:

A 30% difference in power isn't "essentially equal". Come on dude, they can't even render a loving launch Call of Duty game in full HD on the Xbone, quit lying to yourself. The gap in power between the consoles is gigantic.
Nope. Not seeing it. You say they "can't" render a CoD title in full HD. You admit it's a launch title. There could be a million reasons why this launch title doesn't live up to your expectations, and none of them have to be hardware.

We've been through these console launches before (over and over and over by now), and we both know that specs on paper (or the first launch game offerings) do not equal any real insight into what the console can or will do in its lifetime.
The gap in power is not anything like "gigantic."

In every case the true power of the console comes from the people who write the code.

The consoles are, in fact, essentially equal. Time and games will bear this out.

Not that it matters much to me, because I'll own both consoles regardless. But when it comes time to buy the next Rockstar game or EA Sports title, it won't matter which console I buy it on, because they'll be identical.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



e: actually this is far off-topic and has nothing to do with the game so gently caress it.

DEEP STATE PLOT fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Nov 6, 2013

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Fuzzie Murloc
Dec 1, 2005
BLOODY HELL, I lost my fruit cup :(
Puttin my two cents in despite it not being relevant to Forza really but the PS4 actually is better then the Xbone in power, power however doesn't always mean it will be better which is what I think Faustus meant to say.
Anyways majority of console gamers who AREN'T fanboys what will matter to them is who has the better lineup of exclusive games to help them decide what system they will get or get first.

Also in case anyone SOMEHOW is STILL not aware of this GT6 is releasing on the PS3 but NOT the PS4.

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