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ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

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Any unofficial errata or house rules (such as the mystic adept karma cost)?

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ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

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I dunno if there's any actual official errata yet, though there are vague "unofficial" ones (the only one I can think of are the mystic adept changes).

Dunno just yet if I'll make a character since I get enough of Korea in my day to day life :p. If I do, I'll probably give decking a whirl.

ProfessorCirno
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Minjun Young "Rigged Deck"

You can never really escape.

Minjun was technically born a Korean citizen. Sure, his family left not too long after his birth due to potential impending legal issues, but the SIN was there nonetheless. He didn't speak the language, didn't know any of the culture, but still had that drat SIN stuck to his name. No matter how hard he tried to rebel against his parents (who happily took it in stride; like father like son) he still had that fragging SIN stuck to his name.

His parents were Runners. Sure, they had SINs, but that never stopped them. They saw his rebellion as something natural, even wanted - after all, they were a success story, so why couldn't he be? Sure, he'd never be the powerhouse of magic and muscle that his mother was, but his father was more then happy to teach him all the ins and outs of the Matrix - especially the parts he wasn't supposed to go.

But Minjun didn't really want to be a Runner. The whole point of rebelling is to NOT end up like your parents, after all! So he started using his skills for less profitable avenues. He connected up with the local neo-anarchist groups, jammed a guitar in a few punk groups, messed up a good handful of corp sites both virtual and real world. Fun, simple stuff, all aggression and no long term plan. But money started to run dry. His parents weren't gonna support him, and he needed cash.

So he made his first Run.

You can't escape it. It's not that he disliked the Run. Hell, it was pretty exhilarating! But the whole time he was dreading what could end up happening - just another corp citizen by day, Runner by night, and capitalist shitbag during all hours. He didn't stop running, but he tried (vaguely) to take jobs that were aimed at hurting corps rather then neighborhoods or people. He got a new arm, something flashy and standout-ish, very unfashionable. Styled his armor as a proper synthleather jacket, studs and patches and all. But the Runs started to run dry, and cash started to run low again. He crashed a few nights on various friends' couches, but poo poo was starting to look bad.

Until he got a call for a new job.

Fragging Korea. Of course.

And now his gaudy unfashionable arm is super in, and his decking and VR gaming skills have gone from nerdy to mainstream, and all this load of drek. On the bright side, he still certainly doesn't fit in - nothing stands out more then someone who almost fits in, and Minjun stands close enough to stand WAY the hell out. Officially he's here to visit some family from his father's side, and of course now his cousin won't buzz off. He's hooked up with a few members of whatever punk groups he can find, rigged enough casino games to make a tidy sum of cash before he was caught, and begins quietly hoping this job doesn't require him to live here long term. His wishes and hopes have a way of not quite working out.

ProfessorCirno fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Nov 5, 2013

ProfessorCirno
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All done unless I somehow find a picture, which sadly doesn't seem likely. Come on Korea. Where are your punks. You can't all be boy groups*

*They are absolutely all boy groups.

ProfessorCirno fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Nov 5, 2013

ProfessorCirno
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I mean I teach in the land of the "morning calm" (HAH!) but every time I ask either students, other teachers, or hell, any of the expats who've been here longer who the decent rock groups are, they just shrug and tell me it's 90% pop and hip hop around here.

ProfessorCirno
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...So an experienced - if wanted - shaman, an insane barely human sociopathic hunter, a loudmouth mafia kid turned bruiser with a billion languages, an ice cold former corp hitman and medic, and a rich neo-anarchist punk decker.

Seoul game gonna get interesting!

Edit: I guess there's some second game? Whatever.

ProfessorCirno
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Well, in most cases, I can just shoot them with my gun.

Most combat-hacking would be against Big Dudes or armor, I think. Or in situations where I can throw together hilarious dead serious environmental railing kills hazards

ProfessorCirno
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Atlatl posted:

Just use [pre] tags.

Watch out though, they can break the table.

ProfessorCirno
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Already kinda laughing at how starkly different some of us are approaching this.

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bunnielab posted:

Where did you get that google doc sheet from? I have some janky rear end excel thing I use for character building but it is very hard to post in a readable format.

It was sort of a two part process.

I used this sheet for most of my actual chargenning. I then found this while googling for any other excel sheets, copied it, saved the copy on my own GDrive, then filled it out.

It ain't Chummer, but it gets the job done rather nicely. Note that the first does not list anything from the books - everything has to be filled out yourself. What it DOES do, is do all the actual math and number crunching. Which for me was all I needed it to do, to be honest.

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Classtoise posted:

Bible: The thing I put into Orokos was something like 7d6t5, then the Pushing the Limit 3d6e6t5 (basically: 3d6, reroll 6s, target number is five). For whatever reason, Orokos just counts "reroll 6" as "and then add it".

So it's still just 2 hits (6 and 5), since the third was a 4. Hope that clears it up. Orokos kind of jumbled it.

Use h when you have Rule of 6 running.

So If I have a dice pool of 10 and Edge of 3, it'd be 10d6t5 normal, and 13d6h5 when spending Edge on a roll. e and o are for rolls that count the number rather then successes.

ProfessorCirno
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poo poo, who's our face? ITR, I think you're the best at it. Somehow I ended up as secondary. We're being lowballed hard - get us some proper nuyen!

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The Bible posted:

For both games, I'd like to ask that when you post, please link your character sheet.

Best DM declaration ever made

ProfessorCirno
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While it can be risky since it means I can't react suddenly to gently caress ups or sudden changes, I will say that making multiple Matrix rolls in one post does help speed things along. Sadly Matrix poo poo as it stands now is still pretty time consuming, though at least in SR5 it's actually do-able in a PBP. I imagine combat-hacking would be much faster, as what you tend to be doing is more...direct.

ProfessorCirno
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I dunno what happened in your specific situation, but I'll explain Shadowru matrix best I can. I feel the need to point out first that there aren't multiple Matrixes. There's just The Matrix. There are multiple grids (which are somewhat analogous to service providers and servers combined) and Hosts (which are more individual Grids based solely on a specific building). Grid wise there's three levels: Public Grid can be used roughly anywhere but you take penalties for using it, as it's the lovely cheapo grid stuffed to the gills with spam. Beyond that there're Local Grids, which you get for free at...Medium? Or Low? Life Quality. This would be your LA Metropolitan Area Grid - the main grid network for everyone in the area. Still public, but not free. Lastly there are global grids connected to the AAA's - you get these at High. These can be used anywhere in the world where that AAA has a foothold, which is more or less almost everywhere in the world. Most corp sites will use their subsequent corp global grid rather then the local one, so unless you want to take -2 to all your actions, you'd want to hop onto that grid before diving into the corpshit. If you're not on corp territory, the local grid is what you'd want to be using.

A host is a "building" inside the Matrix - it's on "The Matrix" rather then a specific grid, so you usually don't need to worry about grid hopping. Lots of hosts are public - your hotel's host, for example, is not going to be exactly state of the art, it'll likely have a small corner for important files and a large viewing area to set appointments, look at the rooms, make requests, etc, etc. In real world terms, a host is mostly analogous to a website mixed with a server (note: everything in Shadowrun is basically also a server).

So from what I understand in your example, so long as you never left The Matrix on the whole (by using Reboot) you should still have your connection to the Sprite.

ProfessorCirno
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Ok, went to the thread and read it - the node is completely disconnected from the Matrix. YOu are trying to access a computer that is turned off. You must either turn it on or use ~*~spooky Resonance~*~ to connect to it.

Matrix stuff is less complicated then it is wordy

ProfessorCirno
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Maybe that other team just can't handle it.

Heh

:smaug:

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The Bible posted:

What's up with Seoul Team?

Work's get me super zoned out and tired. I'll post tomorrow. Sorry!

ProfessorCirno
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So I started a few posts before realizing I don't have anything to add until we can get a floor plan. Sorry! v:shobon:v

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CisMale - as far as I know the only thing about faking a SIN is either buying one (with the subsection saying how hard it is to make) or using Forgery to fake the data signals, but the forgery is listed as being something that cannot function as a normal SIN - even trying to buy something at the local Stuffer Shack shows it as fake. It's essentially Fake SIN rating 0.

ProfessorCirno
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The forgery would basically look like a SIN being broadcast. The problem is if anyone actually checks it, it's immediately flagged as false. The more I think about it, the more "Rating 0" is the best comparison - any Fake SIN looks real, even the lowest, shittiest one. It's just that using it and having it checked makes the difference. Fake SIN 1 can be used at a stuffer shack because they won't even really check it, they'll just beep it and the machine goes YEP PROBABLY A SIN. A forgery can't even do that - the machine doesn't even accept it as probably. If you just want something being blared out when you run upstairs, a forgery could work.

...Although, I don't actually have Forgery, so it'd default to a dice pool of 7.

ProfessorCirno
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Actually vocalizing thing is for suckers who don't have full DNI B)

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Tomorrow morning I'll make a full summary of goods we're looking at wanting/needing. Seoul Team, if you want more, mention it!

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I apologize in advance if things get...messy.

Four spiders means we're certainly going to have our work cut out for us.

Just to go over it again, CURRENT PLAN AS I UNDERSTAND IT:

TEAM A: Front door

TEAM B: Sewers

Team A walks right in like a boss like they own the place (also they have an appointment) and sits down. Rigged Deck pretends to nap AKA HOTSIM VR and starts building up his marks. Team B I THINK comes in from the sewer, carrying all our actual gear. Rigged Deck, marks in place, "wakes up" and edits the cameras into a loop and starts the fake distraction on let's say floor 12. Floor 13 guards are "called" and asked for reinforcements. Team B takes the elevator up to Team A, where Team A joins them, and we go to floor 13. At this point one of two things happen

1) We are successful in bein' all sneaky

2) poo poo.

1) Cameras having been pre-edited into loops shouldn't bother us. We jam the drones or find some means to stealthily get rid of them, go to I assume the IT office, take out the processor, have a merry jaunt to the offices, take the Go board, open a window, and rappel down. lovely Cass is had, we lie low for a bit just to play it safe, collect our cash.

2) WE hosed UP. Maybe the guards didn't buy it. Maybe Rigged got caught. Either way, we arrive at floor 13 guns blazing. We shoot every guard in our way (non-lethally, of course! Well, maybe), take down the drones, Rigged bricks the elevator if possible, we get that processor, hope we don't have to use our anti-air, inevitably have to use our anti-air, blow the window, rappel down as best as we can, hop the wall, and lie as low as humanly possible while praying our SINs don't get burned and mending our awful gaping wounds and lead poisoning.

ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

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Forgoing any changes to this, I'm ready to start next scene of us beginning the run.

ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

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For any who care, I made a big ol' post on Hosts recently in the Shadowrun thread, and now a sorta supplement for it.

Here

And here

ProfessorCirno
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It's me, I'm The SR5 Decking Guy :(

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Editing is in fact a Complex that must be done every round, so keeping cameras untrained is a full time job. I REALLY need to remember to buy an Agent when we finish here.

ProfessorCirno
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I mean I kinda like it because it gives you a reason to have an Agent outside of "JUST GIVE ME +3 DICE FOREVER" and it stops you from just using your Agent to give you +3 dice or so forever. It also gives an incentive to deal with cameras or get rid of them in another way to free up the decker.

ProfessorCirno
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Alright, almost elevator time. Any ideas on how to get security peeled away? Or do we throw stealth to the wind and those elevator doors open with guns firing?

ProfessorCirno
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Just a heads up, for ease of use in Orokos, when using Edge to either reroll or add dice, use h instead of t - this adds Rule of Six to it automatically.

So if I rolled 20 dice, got one hit, and wanted to reroll, it would be:
20d6t5
"oh noooooo"
19d6h5+1

ProfessorCirno
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Only supplement out so far is Gun Heaven which adds a few guns, one of which is grossly overpowered (don't allow it)

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Here and ready to do "the hacking"

ProfessorCirno
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:D

ProfessorCirno
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No worries, I got Edge to spare. Human supremacy :cool:

ProfessorCirno
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Is that 5e or 4e? I think in 5e all drain is Will + Other Stat.

ProfessorCirno
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This is why you always SAVE EDGE.

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I'm some kind of loving Schrodinger's Cat right now.

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The Bible posted:

You're knocked out. That's my ruling. Get a stim patch on you and you're good to go again, at least until it wears off.

I will remind you all that there is a stairwell on this building as well, and like nearly all building in Seoul, probably a basement, maybe with sewer access.

I don't suppose I can apply it to myself? :B

Also wait. We're running right? Are there modifiers for that? As I desperately scrounge any way to add just one more dodge or soak dice, hahaha?

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The Bible posted:

Whoops, you are actually right. According to page 162, since you were running while you were attacked, the sniper should have gotten a -2 penalty on his attack. You can add that as a defense modifier and roll those two. I suppose Melody will probably want to as well.

If you get only 1 hit, go ahead and subtract it from the damage, leaving you at 1 Physical.

Bonus dodge: 2d6t5 2

I LIVE!

( Haha I don't suppose that makes it a grazing shot instead? :p I'm ok with just having the one box left to limp away from though, hahaha )

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