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Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
I dunno I like BW2. The story? Eh I could take it or leave it but compared to N one of the characters we meet in the game is awesome. As for Hugh, he's... something alright, it's hard not to laugh at him until one event, then it's less funny... Then you remember it's HUGH and he's still a prick.

But yeah, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed several features from it. I just wish I had someone in the area I could have given my Key too so I could have actually played Challenge Mode.

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Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
All I know is I got to the second gym and then was immediately sidetracked by one of the new features in this game. Several days later I emerged with the game completely broken over my knee.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Zorak posted:

You're missing a key bit of this: Black 2 came out way earlier than those previous sequels had. It came out the very next years, while there were on average spacing of about two years for the other "third versions". It was just too bloody soon.

I think the speed of it was hastened by the 3DS, Where as they reasonably may have waited the usual time period before releasing B2W2, the fact that the 3DS was already out and beating down doors probably hastened its production. Then again I don't know. Maybe they just finished the game quickly and decided to release it. Or maybe X/Y were nearing completion and they decided that rather than delay those games, they would release B2W2 sooner.

All I really know is I had a tonne of fun with B2, And while it didn't fix all my issues with Black (Why do I still have to wait until the end of the game to get certain pokemon I like? You could have made them available earlier.) It was an addictive game.

Especially one of the features that properly unlocks in the post game. So many old memories...

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
I'm sorry I was just glad that Black 2 has the decency to go "Here's everything, gently caress off" my only question is if they're gonna give the running shoes this early why not... I dunno. Just have the trainer always have them?

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Sakuramei posted:

Yeah, I know how it works, but I would't be surprised if she leveled pretty fast too with the higher experience for traded Pokemon. Though, maybe it's just me who managed to end up getting a Pokemon right to that point when I hit a gym.

That and the so people don't just trade their party over from their last game and wipe everything.

Judge Tesla - That actually still bugs me because I don't think the series will ever let Ash get that far again. :(

Wait. What? Ash got further than that literally every other tournament. The furthest he got was Sinnoh, where the anime decided "Oh gently caress, we actually don't have a legitimate way to make him lose at his current power levels. Okay, all of his heavy hitters except for Pikachu are too injured to fight. His opponent has Darkrai and Latios!"

It was LITERALLY like the Battle Tower just eventually deciding "NO! gently caress YOU PLAYER!" but for the anime. The real stupid part was Ash actually tried preparing "Oh hey, in the off chance Heracross gets put to sleep, I'll teach him Sleep Talk, which lets him use Megahorn on Darkrai. One of the few things that can legit kill him dead! Oh he's still trucking and wiped out half my team."

This is not as embarrassing as Unova, where he lost to someone who forgot to bring 6 Pokemon to a 6 on 6 battle.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Nihilarian posted:

Roxie's cool.

Not a fan of what comes next.

Why do you hate fun?

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

KataraniSword posted:

Link up with a copy of Black 2 that has completed the game already.

That's the only way. (Well, short of using an Action Replay.)

which sucks when you don't have anyone to swap keys with, so you can't play Challenge Mode at all... This leads to sinking over 300 hours into the main game.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Crosspeice posted:

Weirdly enough, I actually prefer the anime version of Colress to his in-game version. He's much more fleshed out in the anime and is one of the better characters we've had. I'll go more into it when the LP comes to it, but in the game, you don't see too much of what he's about.

I... literally couldn't disagree more. As I really like game Colress and think what the anime did to him was hilariously retarded. The again that about sums up the anime in general...

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
I think it's even brought up to Hugh that, yes, Purrloin is really loving common and he could have just gotten another one. I think his reasons for wanting that specific one back are justified but god drat did they have to make it the most common pokemon in the world?

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

MR. J posted:

Tell me some more. I'm fascinated to learn how merely changing pokemon encounter lists can cause more bugs.

Because the Japanese release was Red and GREEN with blue as a later special edition.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

MR. J posted:

Huh, I just figured they arbitrarily changed green to blue for the western release since they thought Blastoise was a better cover mascot than Venusaur.

What was special about Japanese blue version compared to red and green?

Graphic and sound update, removal of glitches just an update release.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Final derail but as a kid I actually got to see how hosed up a trade between a Japanese game and an English game would go. I had Japanese Yellow and my brother Green, now neither of us understood a word so they were much more difficult than they should have been. However we did have people in the neighbourhood who had english Pokemon games. So whenever we would trade for Pokemon we would wind up with things like Level 127 Lapras with a HP bar that breaks the screen and weird attacks.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Pureauthor posted:

Pretty sure that has less to do with regional differences than with one of the traders having a bootleg copy.

No I'm 100% certain that's not the case. Considering it was like a regular level 7 Spearow turning into that Lapras.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

tlarn posted:

It's not Rotation and that's all that matters. :colbert:

I think you can fight every tournament Rotation style. Or Triple Style, or Double Style.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Blaziken386 posted:

I just realized Hugh's whole point in the game. Pokemon is (supposed to be) aimed at kids, right? He's a role model of how not to act.

Hugh's whole thing is self-loathing projected outward as rage. He hates himself for failing, especially when you consider why that specific Purrloin means so much to him, and while everyone else is willing to move on from it, he's focused and fixated on it because on top of having failed other people got their pokemon back, but Purrloin never returned.

Look, as a guy who just recently had two puppies stolen, while I was still at home mind you and I didn't even notice, I can certainly empathize more with Hugh than I could when I played the game. Because some motherfucker walked onto my property and STOLE MY loving DOGS and I didn't even like them all that much, yes I could just go and get new ones, that's not the point.

So Hugh is a rival who's obsessed and focused on past failings, notice he never hates you, or projects hatred towards you. He just hates himself.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Glazius posted:

Remind me, have we seen a lot of anti-Team Plasma sentiment outside of Hugh? It seems like it should be pretty common.

He's not the only person still hurt, but a lot of trainers got their pokemon returned to them, and ultimately Plasma lost.

Onmi fucked around with this message at 16:40 on May 24, 2014

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Listen, all I know about the anime right now is that Serena is Ash's Childhood friend and that means exactly what that means in Japan. Also he's maybe getting Wrestlebird. I stopped paying even tertiary attention to the show once the Sinnoh League realized it didn't have a legit way to have Ash lose, so it just threw a Darkrai and Latios at him. It was the anime equivalent of the Battle Tower just saying "gently caress you" and besides Digimon with the exception of 02 and Time Hunters was always the better show

so how about that Pokemon World Tournament? I think this was one of my favorite additions to the game, it honestly shocked me because I had seen the exact style of it proposed for an eventual buffer between the Elite 4 in the past. It was like "Wow yeah this would be a fun way to clean up the rival plot threads before going to face the Elite 4".

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Crosspeice posted:

But using Punishment twice instead of Swagger then Punishment deals more damage anyway. I guess that since the stat boost is permanent and the enemy rarely switches means in longer matches overall it works, but then you have to start again when the next Pokemon comes in, wasting more turns.

It's a bit iffy, but it works.

Well I think the idea is it's more like a move for the player vs player battles anyway, you give the opponent the decision to either switch out, thus eating a Punishment, or staying in, risking confusion, and eating Punishment.

The other thing is it's a counter to pokemon that would usually use the first turn to stat up with say... Sword Dance. 90% of Pokemon is mind games when it comes to the competitive level really.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
I did not know that event in Castellia existed.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
I never visited that place. Huh. Didn't even know it existed.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Tonlim posted:

Personally, I can't say that Whitney's that much of problem once you're out of the ten year old approach to the game.
Now Juan's double team spamming Kingdra with rest and a chesto berry on the other hand... :argh:

But yeah, Drayden is amazing and the only dragon-type specialist I actually like, and his gym is pretty much the best in the series thus far as far as I'm concerned.

Because his gym encourages what we already do. Killing everything in our way.

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Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Magma and Aqua were dumb as hell and much better in ORAS. I mean still saturday morning cartoon silly but at least we never get meteor volcano nonsense. But Galactic, even recognizing it's a front for Cyrus to basically become pokegod, is still the dumbest team.

Neo Plasma is basically another take on Team Rocket though, which I thinks more notable from the swap to black uniforms. They've even got silly teamrocket things like Ice Airships, I cannot stress how much I actually love the Ice Airship.

The lamest though was HGSS era Rocket, basically a bunch of putzs looking for Giovanni.

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