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Yeah, it's time for them to either massively overhaul the game or just shut it down. It was useful as a free xl farmer for tanks, but now that matches are pretty much 10-15 minutes invested in just waiting, it's worthless.
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This game's mostly pretty dead, but using twin engines to run over and enrage pubbies is pretty fun thanks to the new ramming mechanics.
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Mar 26, 2015 09:11
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I tried playing last night for the first time since around launch and had no problem finding (small) matchs at lower tiers. Unfortunately, I also had no problem finding ground-attacking heavy fighters.
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Mar 26, 2015 09:29
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Actually that's a good thing, they're like free bags of XP when they do that.
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Mar 26, 2015 10:08
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Unless they're on my team, in which case they engender cold and uncomfortable feelings in me.
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So apparently war gaming did something to Planes when I wasn't paying attention, but amazingly enough I'm having fun in the game. - Matchmaker has gotten a lot better. About 4 months ago, I tried playing and found wait times of between 5 to 10 minutes for matches, if they didn't just time out and boot me back to hanger. As lazyhound noticed, the MM now selects for smaller match sizes if no other players are around. It's not uncommon to see between 3v3 to 6v6 matches, but they load in fast with less than a minute of wait. - The games are fairly balanced. While the occasional 3 GA flight will develop into a wonky game, most of the time it's a good mix of plane types spread evenly across acceptable tiers. - It seems less grindy. They have some pretty good weekend specials with improved xp generation for both planes and crews. I don't feel "stuck" in a plane as much as I had. - The pubs here seem somehow better than tank pubs. I see very few suicide rams anymore, and while there is the occasional dipshit, the overall player quality feels higher. I don't notice evaporating team syndrome as much as in tanks. It still happens once or twice a night, but not every other game. - I think they did some work with joystick optimization. When I switched to a joystick last year, it felt like I was being punished for not using a mouse. Now it feels a lot more responsive, with gunnery being improved and evasive maneuvers easier to pull off. - Ground attack has been made more challenging. Last time I played GA in earnest, it was just a cheap way to farm free xp for tanks. Didn't even really have to aim, just point the plane in the general direction as a ground target and mash the trigger. Now ground targets are actual point targets instead of area targets with one "target" being made up of many ground objects (like tanks, or bunkers, or even subsystems on a warship." A lone GA can't also run away with the match by superiority like they used to. Ground targets now also have varying levels of armor, which makes them less attractive targets to light fighters, so the incidences of seeing ground strafing BF 109s has gone down. There are still the occasional multiple fighters and heavy fighters that load a couple bombs and try to drop them before dogfighting. That usually ends poorly. And by and large the game seems to be developing its own player base outside of tanks, which is a good thing. I see very few tank clan tags, and the player base is small enough for players to recognize one another across multiple battles. I think this is probably a good thing, in the long run. The cross-game promos war gaming does seems to have bring over the riff raff more than the good players, so anyone trying to get a feel of the game is going to have to slog through playing with a bunch of bads.
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Apr 19, 2015 18:15
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what were the player numbers like? hundreds or did it raise over  a thousand ?I'm kind of missing a plane game nowadays outside of WT
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Apr 19, 2015 23:18
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Mans posted:what were the player numbers like? hundreds or did it raise over 600 to 1100, with about 700 as a median seems to be the usual number. edit: and I just can't be assed to download war thunder. I've heard it's a good game, but it sounds like just another variation on the same theme. I'm not sinking more money/time into another one of these sorts of games unless it's loving spectacular.
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Apr 20, 2015 00:57
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War Thunder is loving spectacular. Hth.
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Apr 20, 2015 00:59
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War Thunder is pretty cool if you want a point and click flight game for mouse play or a grognard bait simmy thing.
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Yeah, War Thunder is cool in the sense that you can play a variety of different game modes without switching clients, so it's many games in one in a sense  It's not as grindy, but even Arcade mode isn't as arcade as WoWP, in case you were looking for a hitpoint system and stuff.
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xthetenth posted:War Thunder is pretty cool if you want a point and click flight game for mouse play or a grognard bait simmy thing. So what does WoWP offer?
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mlmp08 posted:So what does WoWP offer? An arcadey mode designed to be arcadey with non-castrated joystick controls, hitpoints rather than the effective randomness of hitbox modeling of hitboxes far smaller than you can meaningfully aim for, and a setup without respawns continually diving on you once you lose energy and boom and zoomers hitting unreachable heights that can murder spawners.
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Apr 20, 2015 01:53
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xthetenth posted:An arcadey mode designed to be arcadey with non-castrated joystick controls, hitpoints rather than the effective randomness of hitbox modeling of hitboxes far smaller than you can meaningfully aim for, and a setup without respawns continually diving on you once you lose energy and boom and zoomers hitting unreachable heights that can murder spawners. Hahaha ok. Also lol any arcade player who actually plays as an untouchable BnZ is basically hurting their team because arcade is objective based rather than kill based. Excessive dive angle!
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Apr 20, 2015 05:46
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mlmp08 posted:Hahaha ok. Also lol any arcade player who actually plays as an untouchable BnZ is basically hurting their team because arcade is objective based rather than kill based. It's more that getting spawn camped sucks irredeemable amounts of rear end then whether it's particularly effective.
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Apr 20, 2015 15:17
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That's only really a thing in Arcade, luckily.
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Apr 20, 2015 15:40
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Azran posted:That's only really a thing in Arcade, luckily. I don't play a lot of arcade any more, but about the only time I saw that done effectively was when I was the one doing it. As for the rest, hitpoints are awful, and it's pretty easy to aim at components, especially if you use mouse-aim, the proper control scheme for arcade and RB. It can be a little rough to aim at components on a fighter from long range, but at close range it's no issue, and at long range versus larger aircraft like heavy fighters and bombers, it's not only possible, it's just required to be a decent player at all. But the game has super smooth aiming and a zoom in button, so it's a non-issue except for those who insist on playing a cartoony arcade game and then using a spergy controller setup like joystick/pedals. aiming at components with AAA vehicles is fun. 
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Weltlich posted:- It seems less grindy. They have some pretty good weekend specials with improved xp generation for both planes and crews. I don't feel "stuck" in a plane as much as I had. These were the things that made me quit. After a few days repeatedly having matches where I kill 4 to 6 of the opposition planes and we still get stomped made me just delete it in frustration. The first 2 minutes were so awful each match as the AFKs on both side fly straight ahead, idiots ramming them - a rain of discarded plane parts fluttering to the ground. Maybe they decided the game wasn't worth AFKing in? Or maybe the EU server is still as awful as it was?
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xthetenth posted:An arcadey mode designed to be arcadey with non-castrated joystick controls, hitpoints rather than the effective randomness of hitbox modeling of hitboxes far smaller than you can meaningfully aim for These are not unique to this game at all and really exist in every major active airplane That said, I personally prefer the more "sim" side of games like this because when players kill each other it kind of makes more sense and you see less of the BS spawn killing though things like strafing an enemy airfield are always gonna be an inherent part of it if landing is ever an option. Thief fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Apr 20, 2015 |
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