Largepotato posted:You can set keys for that in the options. Can you? interesting. I don't mind using the mouse to ascend and dive but maneuvering in more than those directions gets confusing especially when you are trying to shake somebody off your tail and not crash into a team mate. Anyone else find the hanger really quiet compared to the WoT one? weirdly unsettling for me. I guess they'll patch that stuff in when they nail down the more important things like post release bugs.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Can you? interesting. I don't mind using the mouse to ascend and dive but maneuvering in more than those directions gets confusing especially when you are trying to shake somebody off your tail and not crash into a team mate. Yes, it is imperative that you tweak the entirety of WoP's keyboard controls and mouse maneuverability to enjoy it, otherwise you'll feel like a flying Churchill. You can really see the difference in-game between someone turning with only their mouse and someone turning with their mouse + keyboard, it can decide quite a few duels. That and being able to spin your plane instead of trying to slug your way down or up and losing loads of energy. WoP still doesn't have a separate button for barracks  If you guys want to see your barracks don't forget that you need to right click on a pilot and press the view barracks button since it is the only way you can access it so far. Quite a bizarre design choice.
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Mans posted:Yes, it is imperative that you tweak the entirety of WoP's keyboard controls and mouse maneuverability to enjoy it, otherwise you'll feel like a flying Churchill. Holy goddamn that is a on the spot example of what it feels like flying with the default set up.
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Nov 14, 2013 20:54
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I'm also on EU as Grabpot_Thundergust, and somehow I've found a way to be worse at this than I am at tonks.
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Nov 14, 2013 21:03
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SeanBeansShako posted:Holy goddamn that is a on the spot example of what it feels like flying with the default set up. Bloody kids moaning about the default setup. Back in my day... No seriously, you change the controls?
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Ratzap posted:Bloody kids moaning about the default setup. Back in my day... No seriously, you change the controls? I'm going to do it later. I played enough for tonight  .
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God, I had forgotten how terrible some of the stock plane grinds can be. I mean sure you can always do damage in planes with a stock gun but it can be a huge diffrence when fighting in an energy fighter that doesn't get lots of time on target each pass. Then you get the planes that are both slower and worse at turning than everything their tier and above without engines or airframes add in a piddly gun and unless you get one of those games where everyone ignores you it is hard as hell do do damage let alone get kills. Definitely have to stay away from my stats page because its fluctuating all over the place due to low number of games as well as trying to quickly grind through terrible low tiers leads to bad play. Anyone have a recommended setup for mouse controls? At this point I played with the standard settings so much that it just feels normal but I wouldn't mind a bit more control for when I have to fight actual good players. Sphrin fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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Nov 15, 2013 01:04
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Which of the Soviet fighter lines are recommended? I barelly touched them during the beta.
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Mans posted:Which of the Soviet fighter lines are recommended? I barelly touched them during the beta. Lines? There are soviet fighters and flying bricks. The I-15, I-16e and I-16l are superb especially once you get a good pilot and pimp it out a bit. Sphrin posted:Definitely have to stay away from my stats page because its fluctuating all over the place due to low number of games as well as trying to quickly grind through terrible low tiers leads to bad play. I was at 67% yesterday, now 84 matches and 42%  I have 1.3 kills a match average, 10k damage to aircraft and 200exp per match average but they are just so loving terrible. I can't carry that much and it keeps tossing me in with the windowlickers.
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It just amazes me how Rageblind WT fans get about some people liking WoWP. I've been playing both and each game has its merits. Got my zero and buffalo today ran out of silver training crew first time thats happened.
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Wren610 posted:It just amazes me how Rageblind WT fans get about some people liking WoWP. I've been playing both and each game has its merits. Got my zero and buffalo today ran out of silver training crew first time thats happened. We have nothing better to do. No but seriously, for people used to the crit and module damage of WT, the HP and critical existence failures of WoWP can be quite jarring. Even the arcade mode of WT is somewhat realistic with its damage and other physics. Especially compared to WoWP.
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I am around as ArcPanzer on the EU cluster. After around 60-65% wins during alpha and beta I am down to <50%... there are some really lovely players out there and sealclubber squads rule supreme and always target me first it seems. I have a strange phenomenon with the contact list. Some of my friends never show up as online and adding them to my contacts does poo poo nothing at all. I always have to invite them manually into my squad. Does anybody know a possible solution?
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I had to really hunt for this, but here - I call it my "Kinda Like War Thunder" control scheme: Based off the "Mouse" control scheme, not the "1.1" or something retarded. This makes it seem the closest to War Thunder's controls that I've felt. W - Pitch Down S - Pitch Up (reverse these if you like down to mean down and up to mean up) A - Roll Left D - Roll Right Boost - Left Shift Fire rocket - Thumb button on mouse (if you have one - RMB is free look, so don't bind it to that) Mouse sensitivity - ~85-90% No keys for yaw, since that's the mouse's job. I can't decide which key to use for the 'auto-level' because in this scheme you'll find your screen upside down a fair bit, and it makes recovering a bit of a chore. ----- It's not perfect, but I think it's a good template to build from. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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Nov 15, 2013 14:18
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Mans posted:Which of the Soviet fighter lines are recommended? I barelly touched them during the beta.
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rossmum posted:I-16 and I-17 are supremely agile and probably among the best tier 4s. The LaGG is terrible, much like real life, but the La-5 and up are amazingly competent at everything. The Yak-1 through -3 are all excellent turn fighters but very fragile. The LaGG isn't even that terrible if you dismount the 7.62mm guns and mount the 23mm cannon with the dual 50s. You'll explode things like crazy and can turn with many fighters so long as you don't try going vertical. Unfortunately, the La-5 has a terrible stock grind until you can get the triple 20mms.
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Nov 15, 2013 16:10
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Just won a battle simply out turning two pubbie pilots in the starter Soviet fighter.
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You should change the OP. The 109s are only good because of their dumb outboard autocannons. You will melt things with the 109 F so quickly it's not even funny.rossmum posted:I-16 and I-17 are supremely agile and probably among the best tier 4s. The LaGG is terrible, much like real life, but the La-5 and up are amazingly competent at everything. The Yak-1 through -3 are all excellent turn fighters but very fragile. Did you end up getting the Mosquito in the beta? It was a little disappointing for me, P-51s are basically your hard counter. Also, it's really easy to avoid getting rammed.
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Finally a good victory but in a lovely plane and in a very "pubbie retard" way  9 kills... I shot 4 of them, the other 5 queued up behind me to be executed by my tail gunner. 50% crew of course so it's not like he picked them off quickly either.
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Nov 15, 2013 21:58
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There is still nothing redeeming or enjoyable about this game. Unfortunately I cannot give away this account because it is tied into my tanks account else I would let someone have it. Everytime I think tanks can be mind numbing and not fun, I simply need to log into warplanes and remind myself why it is not that bad. Bless your hearts for those that can manage to play this and are good at it.
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Nov 15, 2013 23:31
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demonR6 posted:There is still nothing redeeming or enjoyable about this game. Unfortunately I cannot give away this account because it is tied into my tanks account else I would let someone have it. Everytime I think tanks can be mind numbing and not fun, I simply need to log into warplanes and remind myself why it is not that bad. Only reason I would play is if they do another crossover event, because not too many people are good at planes and tanks. We almost won 12k gold that way but got unlucky and got matched with a good tanks/plane teams on every stage that was the opponents strength. WGNA hates goons
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I'm worse at planes than tanks. Only lasting a minute in a match is far from enjoyable for me so not what I consider a game to keep playing.
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There's one thing i'm really loving about the game right now. Pubbies are getting smarter and realize that sticking together brings better results. You can usually find yourself a few pubbies escorting you or you can follow a pubbie ball yourself in almost every game. It becomes amazing when two locust-swarm styled teams end up meeting each other and it turns into a massive orgy of dogfighting and bullets flying everywhere and planes crashing into each other  Ratzap posted:Lines? There are soviet fighters and flying bricks. The I-15, I-16e and I-16l are superb especially once you get a good pilot and pimp it out a bit. Wren610 posted:It just amazes me how Rageblind WT fans get about some people liking WoWP. I've been playing both and each game has its merits. Got my zero and buffalo today ran out of silver training crew first time thats happened.  .
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demonR6 posted:I'm worse at planes than tanks. Only lasting a minute in a match is far from enjoyable for me so not what I consider a game to keep playing. Thing is that terrible pubs in WoT also often just last 2 minutes before they get blown up. My biggest gripe with WoWP is how small the maps are and how arcadey the flight model is. I mean it's a difference if you have an arcade mode comparable to, let's say Blazing Angels, or if you go straight into UFO mode. With the small maps most air combat tactics only help little, proper positioning and attack angles will keep a smart pilot in the game but plays a far smaller role than in WT. So I would say: if you just want to jump into a simple shooter and have 5 fast rounds of WWII pew-pew then WoWP is the right game. If you want something with greater depth and a far more rewarding experience once you get good at the game, then WT is the right game. Personally I'm back in WT to jump through their closed beta requirement hoops. If their ground combat provides the same level of depth as their air combat, then I will probably be done with WoT. Hammerstein fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Nov 16, 2013 |
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Mans posted:I'm following the thread now that tanks are looming in the horizon and much like in the WoT thread, the history, gif and video posts are awesome but the thread reaches new heights when I would say my feeling on WoWP isn't rage, but more akin to a sense of pity and incredulity. Even compared to other arcade games such as WT arcade mode, the Ace Combat series, or even HAWX, WoWP is just painful in its execution. Can you mute the guy who yells EXCESSIVE DIVE ANGLE without losing other important sounds? I guess if you can mute that guy, the game would be at least 50% better than I think it is. Also, WoWP has a great feature going for it: if you uninstall it, you've lost no money. Also, holy poo poo the visual effects and sound effects are lazy. Orange sprites fly out the back of planes while I listen to a man stomp on a bag of dry leaves when planes get shot in WoWP. EXCESSIVE DIVE ANGLE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QRVlT3CGA&t=1s The only thing that ever made me angry regarding WoWP was the abysmal looping music they used in their flight school and flight challenge videos. Once you hear the loop on that canned music, just try and forget it. 
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Well so far the encounters have amounted to get as much altitude as possible heading for one of the most likely areas you will have support and encounter enemy aircraft. The result though is either getting shot to poo poo before I can get enough altitude from some better equipped fighter or playing chicken with an oncoming fighter. That leads to me pulling out to avoid a ram death but in the process getting shot out of the sky because that person has the advantage. I am better off staying the course and both of us wipe out and I at least take someone out with me. All of this takes about a minute and it's back to the garage. Either way you can see it is not too enjoyable. I can however sit back and watch things develop but the side effect of that is our guys are wiped before you can figure out what the gently caress happened or vice versa and you never get to contribute. I am with you Hammer, I prefer WT and all it's hoops over this by a mile.
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demonR6 posted:Well so far the encounters have amounted to get as much altitude as possible heading for one of the most likely areas you will have support and encounter enemy aircraft. The result though is either getting shot to poo poo before I can get enough altitude from some better equipped fighter or playing chicken with an oncoming fighter. That leads to me pulling out to avoid a ram death but in the process getting shot out of the sky because that person has the advantage. I am better off staying the course and both of us wipe out and I at least take someone out with me. All of this takes about a minute and it's back to the garage. Either way you can see it is not too enjoyable. I can however sit back and watch things develop but the side effect of that is our guys are wiped before you can figure out what the gently caress happened or vice versa and you never get to contribute. What planes are you even playing? Maybe you are climbing at too shallow an angle, you can generally afford to boost all the way up at like 50 degrees from horizontal.
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mlmp08 posted:I would say my feeling on WoWP isn't rage, but more akin to a sense of pity and incredulity. Even compared to other arcade games such as WT arcade mode, the Ace Combat series, or even HAWX, WoWP is just painful in its execution.  I liked WT's arcade mode much better before they added a lot of realism-lite into it. Some people don't like realistic flight sims or suck at getting how flying a fighter works. When they made Arcade look much more like Historical i lost interest. I'm here to have arcade fun, Red Orchestra and Il-2 do the sim thing much better. The game will improve as time goes on. The core mechanics are quite entertaining and Wargaming knows how to make good games. With any hope WT will scare them into improving what they refuse to correct (mainly poo poo maps on WoT) but the arcade feel, the good balance between trees and tiers and the quickness of finding a match and playing it to completion make it better to my personal tastes. Oh and that robotic voice is gone. Your co-pilot is now Andy Dick. I'll let you decide whether that's better or worse. demonR6 posted:Well so far the encounters have amounted to get as much altitude as possible heading for one of the most likely areas you will have support and encounter enemy aircraft. The result though is either getting shot to poo poo before I can get enough altitude from some better equipped fighter or playing chicken with an oncoming fighter. That leads to me pulling out to avoid a ram death but in the process getting shot out of the sky because that person has the advantage. I am better off staying the course and both of us wipe out and I at least take someone out with me. All of this takes about a minute and it's back to the garage. Either way you can see it is not too enjoyable. I can however sit back and watch things develop but the side effect of that is our guys are wiped before you can figure out what the gently caress happened or vice versa and you never get to contribute. Have you tried BIG HEADLINE's flight models? Playing with the default mouse controls and with literally 0 way of tweaking your plane via mouse is awful.
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Mans posted:Have you tried BIG HEADLINE's flight models? Playing with the default mouse controls and with literally 0 way of tweaking your plane via mouse is awful. I have everything customized except for his mouse sensitivity which mine is about 75%. I may gently caress with is some more but the problem I am facing is much better planes which wipe me with not a lot of effort. It takes a handful of matches being poo poo on plus another few where your team does not bother to show up to make it a short lived stint of playing.
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It feels like outnumbering plays a much bigger part here than in tanks. Being outnumbered 2-1 or even 3-1 doesn't have to end in death in tanks. In planes, even the worst mouthbreathers will poo poo all over me when they gang up on me. So far, in my experience, as soon as one side is up five kills it's already decided and you might as well crash into a hill and save some time. Also, gently caress those Me410/P-51 platoons. gently caress them so much.
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Nidhg00670000 posted:It feels like outnumbering plays a much bigger part here than in tanks. Being outnumbered 2-1 or even 3-1 doesn't have to end in death in tanks. In planes, even the worst mouthbreathers will poo poo all over me when they gang up on me. So far, in my experience, as soon as one side is up five kills it's already decided and you might as well crash into a hill and save some time. Yeah, sounds like you need to BnZ more. Every Fw57 game I play ends in either suddenly realising the enemies that floated into my sights are all dead, or 3 minutes later with me staying above 2k and turning to pop them one by one as they lemming around the map a klick behind and below my tail. Whiff whiff whiff zinch ding splutter go the puny out-ranged untermensch machine guns. Kolobanov-style victories are, in my experience, vastly more common in planes than in tanks. It is far more trivial in planes to take absolutely no damage (by using bnz tactics, for example), whereas in tanks even the camadors of this world have to trade a little hp for progress sometimes when trying to carry. stephenfry fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Nov 16, 2013 |
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I am not very good at this game yet... I was starting to get pretty good toward the end of beta but now I suck again for some reason... What does extending your flaps do?
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RennZero posted:I am not very good at this game yet... I was starting to get pretty good toward the end of beta but now I suck again for some reason... Flaps let you turn better, but you lose speed due to drag.
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The lower tier planes are sometimes a wash.Nidhg00670000 posted:It feels like outnumbering plays a much bigger part here than in tanks. Being outnumbered 2-1 or even 3-1 doesn't have to end in death in tanks. In planes, even the worst mouthbreathers will poo poo all over me when they gang up on me. So far, in my experience, as soon as one side is up five kills it's already decided and you might as well crash into a hill and save some time. There is a critical threshold of being outnumbered where you then get hosed, but pubbies are really bad. If you're in a good plane, all you need are one or two other guys being distractions, or buzzing the guy who's latched onto your tail, and you can plow through most pub-storms. When you're alone though, you might be hosed. In those situations, it pays to be either super-maneuverable or super zoomy.
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stephenfry posted:Yeah, sounds like you need to BnZ more. I absolutely suck at bnz. My heavy fighter track record i abysmal, since I can't help but to try to turnfight all the time. I know I shouldn't, but half the time I end up doing it anyway. The I-16e is my favourite plane so far and the one I've performed best in (I'm at tier 4 in the Soviet, American and German fighter trees). I did spectate on a guy in a Bf110 that won us the game by getting 8 kills when he was the last plane left. Boosting up, turning around and diving past the whole flock, killing one plane while passing, then boosting up and repeating until they where all dead.
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So the British fighter tree has no less than four Spitfire variants but no Hurricane at all? Really?
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Gort posted:So the British fighter tree has no less than four Spitfire variants but no Hurricane at all? Really? Yeah, no clue where the Hurricane is. I'm thankful in the end we got the British faction. I need my jack of all trades mediocre underdog to play as. Also, flying with and against Tier 1 pubbies really does give new meaning to the term Flying Circus.
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Nidhg00670000 posted:No Sea Fury either. Or tempest or typhoon... So much room for them to expand the tree eh
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Gort posted:So the British fighter tree has no less than four Spitfire variants but no Hurricane at all? Really? They were too busy putting in planes that literally never existed to put in the Hurricane.
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