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Jul 23, 2014 22:48
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Why cookie Rocket posted:This is probably a can of worms but....NJPW? Start with either Invasion Attack 2013 or Wrestle Kingdom 7 from 2013, and just go from there. Also, the 1994 Super J Cup.
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Jul 23, 2014 22:58
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Why cookie Rocket posted:This is probably a can of worms but....NJPW? honestly you can just pick a PPV from the last couple years completely at random and start watching them in chronological order from that point on, but Wrestlekingdom 7 from last year was the show that got a lot more eyes on the company around here and rekindled many peoples' interest in puro http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxkmne_njpw-wrestle-kingdom-7-2013-1-4-part-1_sport http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxknqg_njpw-wrestle-kingdom-7-2013-1-4-part-2_sport http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxko1w_njpw-wrestle-kingdom-7-2013-1-4-part-3_sport http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxkohm_njpw-wrestle-kingdom-7-2013-1-4-part-4_sport http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxkoyb_njpw-wrestle-kingdom-7-2013-1-4-part-5_sport http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxkpa3_njpw-wrestle-kingdom-7-2013-1-4-part-6_sport I Before E posted:Start with either Invasion Attack 2013 or Wrestle Kingdom 7 from 2013, and just go from there. oatgan fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Jul 23, 2014 |
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Jul 23, 2014 23:02
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Thanks guys. Is it difficult to overcome the language barrier? If I love it is there a relatively easy method for keeping up with it (i.e., not just dailymotion links)?
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Jul 23, 2014 23:21
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Thanks guys. Is it difficult to overcome the language barrier? If I love it is there a relatively easy method for keeping up with it (i.e., not just dailymotion links)? Hang around in the New Japan threads on here. The language barrier isn't really an issue, because they don't have "storylines" in the way that western wrestling does. Most of the time is "These two guys don't like each other so they're gonna have a match" or "This guy cheated, ergo he is a heel (unless he's Toru Yano but he's a fringe case)".
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Jul 23, 2014 23:23
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Thanks guys. Is it difficult to overcome the language barrier? If I love it is there a relatively easy method for keeping up with it (i.e., not just dailymotion links)? Most of the angles are pretty self-explanitory and follow fairly basic in-ring storytelling.
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Jul 23, 2014 23:24
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:The language barrier isn't really an issue, because they don't have "storylines" in the way that western wrestling does. Most of the time is "These two guys don't like each other so they're gonna have a match" or "This guy cheated, ergo he is a heel (unless he's Toru Yano but he's a fringe case)". Huh...that's both very freeing and kind of scary. What about something like Bullet Club, can I just assume "this is NWO or the Shield or whatever" and be fine?
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Jul 23, 2014 23:26
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Huh...that's both very freeing and kind of scary. What about something like Bullet Club, can I just assume "this is NWO or the Shield or whatever" and be fine? Yeah. They are outsider dickbags and they cut most of their promos in English anyway.
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Jul 23, 2014 23:31
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Why cookie Rocket posted:If I love it is there a relatively easy method for keeping up with it (i.e., not just dailymotion links)? I guess there's always niconico but that's harder to set up than bookmarking a bunch of DM channels. Illinois Smith fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Jul 23, 2014 |
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Jul 23, 2014 23:31
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Huh...that's both very freeing and kind of scary. What about something like Bullet Club, can I just assume "this is NWO or the Shield or whatever" and be fine? Bullet Club are the top heel faction right now. They're just rear end in a top hat westerners who cheat and use a lot of interference spots.
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Jul 23, 2014 23:36
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Another Person posted:This is a dumb question, but where do I start with CM Punk? Dudes done a lot of poo poo. Punk is awesome on the stick. Here's a brief history. Early Punk Making Fun of Juggalos - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--X8pAvg3DE CM Punk Old Style in The Shower Promo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-iCDAKHduU CM Punk Wins ROH Title Snake Promo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTqgwyuv3CU A Couple of Stupid Awesome CM Punk shorts from ECW - Slaps Shannon Moore - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU5-cNTXd1M That's Not A Mariachi!!! - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x47py2_ecw-cm-punk-crashes-new-ecw-champio_news Champion Punk as Jeff Harvey - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC6iLl26vpg Becomes homeless Jesus Straight Edge Savior and shaves a girls head - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkxpqHxSAsk Sings Happy Birthday To Rey Mysterio's Daughter - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeAVVzZuTqo Tells The Big Show the truth - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9dg2EZeZf8 CM Punk's Epic NXT Commentary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duzwm9GWSN8 Arguably the best promo of all time - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OS9wZGb_3g CM Punk wants ice cream bars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmPcTLVO5f8 - part 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjBBLimIr64 Punk, Heyman and The Rock promo - [url[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr8mfBRsD2s[/url] Punk promo off against Heyman, brawl with Brock - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jA__QtjT3g
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Jul 23, 2014 23:49
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Flameingblack posted:
Hijo Del Helmsley posted:For joshi, you HAVE to see this. Thanks guys! I know what I'm watching once I get home from work. Joshi's such an esoteric thing, it's nice to have a point of entry.
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Jul 24, 2014 02:31
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Needs More Jazz posted:I want to get started with joshi, since they seem to take the "no one told Japan it isn't real" joke to the extreme. But it's really hard to find places to watch it. Any suggestions on classic matches, or really good recent ones? One thing I'd recommend is this AJW Classics episode that someone uploaded dedicated to the WWWA Tag Team Championship. It's focused mainly on the '80s which means a bunch of Crush Gals matches which is undeniably a good thing. If you wind up liking Natsuki*Taiyo's stuff I'd recommend checking out Momoe Nakanishi since she was Natuski's idol and Natsuki took a lot of inspiration from her. Most anything involving Momoe teaming with Nanae Takahashi against LCO is great (LCO in the late-'90s/early 2000s was fantastic). Her stuff with Kumiko Maekawa is generally very good too since the two had legit heat with one another but it wound up working well into their matches.
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Jul 24, 2014 04:15
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Illinois Smith posted:Making anyone watch that feature-length Hero vs Punk match seems kinda cruel. I didn't even like that one back when having super long matches was the Hot New Indy Trend. When I watched it a few years ago it was the funniest thing I'd seen in ages.
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Jul 24, 2014 04:52
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God Of Paradise posted:Early Punk Making Fun of Juggalos - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--X8pAvg3DE
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Jul 24, 2014 08:05
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Is there a chronological list of all 90s AJPW matches (or at least all the significant ones) involving the four pillars and/or elite gaijin? I could use Cagematch but then I'd have to filter through what was televised and what wasn't. I've watched a bunch of that stuff but people always say it's better if you work through it in order so I'd like to do that.
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Jul 24, 2014 16:41
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http://theditch.biz/chron.html
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Jul 24, 2014 17:34
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wow!!! thanks
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Jul 24, 2014 19:18
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Ditch is a hero.
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Jul 25, 2014 00:55
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Listening to how much Paul Heyman talked up Jimmy Hart in that Comic Con panel makes me wanna find and watch some of the good stuff Jimmy was part of. Any network recommendations like PPVs or anything like that?
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Jul 28, 2014 11:04
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Speedboat Jones posted:Listening to how much Paul Heyman talked up Jimmy Hart in that Comic Con panel makes me wanna find and watch some of the good stuff Jimmy was part of. Any network recommendations like PPVs or anything like that? Kaufman v. Lawler was the best feud he was a part of, to my knowledge. As a kid I had this old VHS that had Mean Gene as a reporter who was investigating the Hart Foundation's executive offices. It's nothing mind-blowing, but it's awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=igTphYDReFc#t=2838 But in all seriousness, Jimmy Hart sucks.
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Jul 28, 2014 11:14
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcirgt_jv-rich-jimmy-hart-wrestlicious-gir_shortfilms
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Jul 28, 2014 11:22
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Speedboat Jones posted:Listening to how much Paul Heyman talked up Jimmy Hart in that Comic Con panel makes me wanna find and watch some of the good stuff Jimmy was part of. Any network recommendations like PPVs or anything like that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQmoIcyOWW0 Jimmy Hart played on the album Hulk Rules, as a member of the Hulk Hogan Wrestling Boot Band.
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Jul 28, 2014 11:27
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God Of Paradise posted:But in all seriousness, Jimmy Hart sucks. Counterpoint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iNFIdQC4fw
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Jul 28, 2014 11:35
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Listening to this week's Steve Austin podcast made me realize that I've never really seen anything with the Rock 'n Roll Express. Suggestions?
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Aug 7, 2014 01:26
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mariooncrack posted:Listening to this week's Steve Austin podcast made me realize that I've never really seen anything with the Rock 'n Roll Express. Suggestions? I think I saw a great streetfight vs. Midnight Express in Memphis, where they slid on popcorn butter and covered each other with mustard. If you like, I dunno, ECW Dudley Boys matches, look it up.
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Aug 7, 2014 11:14
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If you can watch the Midtnight Express v Rock 'n' Roll Express feud from Mid South that'd probably do.
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Aug 7, 2014 11:35
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Illinois Smith posted:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcirgt_jv-rich-jimmy-hart-wrestlicious-gir_shortfilms Oh dear god don't bring those things to the light of day again...
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Aug 7, 2014 19:19
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I'm a very casual consumer of lucha but I caught Triplemania and thought Perro Aguayo, Jr. was amazing. I know he was in CMLL a while back and he's pretty much the top heel in Mexico. What are the goods/backstory?
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Aug 22, 2014 19:10
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God Of Paradise posted:Punk, Heyman and The Rock promo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr8mfBRsD2s Shuck and jive. So good.
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Aug 23, 2014 02:02
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Speedboat Jones posted:Listening to how much Paul Heyman talked up Jimmy Hart in that Comic Con panel makes me wanna find and watch some of the good stuff Jimmy was part of. Any network recommendations like PPVs or anything like that? The Memphis Heat documentary has a lot of great Jimmy hart stuff as well as being one of the better wrestling docs in recent years. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1570104/
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Aug 23, 2014 05:15
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Speedboat Jones posted:Listening to how much Paul Heyman talked up Jimmy Hart in that Comic Con panel makes me wanna find and watch some of the good stuff Jimmy was part of. Any network recommendations like PPVs or anything like that? Jimmy Hart's best stuff was in Memphis. I wasn't crazy about him in the WWF, but his stuff in WCW with Lex Luger from Fall of 95 through spring of 96 is hilarious. Luger is a heel managed by Hart, but he's still Sting's friend. Sting doesn't like Hart and wants Luger to have nothing to do with him. Lex hems and haws, then promises not to be involved with him even though he clearly is. It's all leading up to a big turn, but then the nWo happens and Luger is a face. I don't even know what segments to recommend on PPV. I know there's something great on Uncensored 96. Earlier this year a guy had every single Andy Kaufman in Memphis segment uploaded on youtube. It's not Hart's best work but he does some good stuff. Hart is so sleazy in Memphis he makes whatever people think Dean Ambrose is look respectable. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Aug 23, 2014 |
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Aug 23, 2014 06:33
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1. What's a good start point for Memphis TV? 2. Is it possible to obtain full sets of Champion Wrestling from Florida TV anywhere and if so what's a good period to start with for them also?
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Aug 23, 2014 10:57
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Spermgod posted:1. What's a good start point for Memphis TV? The Death Valley Driver Message Board has been doing a "Best of the 80's" project for awhile now. A few years back, they released a Memphis set. For Memphis in general, I think that would be a good place to start. The main discs are on youtube. Here's the first disc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5kADZi9IRg Quality can vary greatly on the matches.
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Aug 23, 2014 17:03
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Thanks for that, but having heard how great Memphis was for episodic TV I'd like to actually follow along with the weekly TVs rather than watch highlights out of context. Just don't know what year to start on...
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Aug 23, 2014 18:39
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For just all-around general japanese batshit craziness, do I go with HUSTLE or Osaka Pro? Best matches for both? Is HUSTLE even worth getting into considering its (or was now that its off tv) more of an ongoing storyline and I dont know japanese?
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Aug 24, 2014 06:19
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Spermgod posted:Thanks for that, but having heard how great Memphis was for episodic TV I'd like to actually follow along with the weekly TVs rather than watch highlights out of context. Just don't know what year to start on... If you can find 84, I believe it has Macho Man so how about you try there?
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Aug 24, 2014 06:30
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super macho dude posted:For just all-around general japanese batshit craziness, do I go with HUSTLE or Osaka Pro? They're always just doing insane stuff that always culminates in great matches such as: Minoru Suzuki vs Mecha Mummy and the rematch A Bread-Eating Death Match (From Union Pro) Kota Ibushi vs an inflatable sex toy, possessed by The Undertaker (DDT Pro) Apartment Complex Pro Wrestling (DDT Pro) (There are many Location: Pro matches from DDT including nature parks, amusement parks, construction sites, and whole cities) Kuishinbo Kamen vs Kikutaro (Osaka Pro) You can go to IVP or Rudo Reels and just look up HUSTLE and find a date, start buying DVDs, and enjoy the ride.
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Aug 24, 2014 07:00
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super macho dude posted:For just all-around general japanese batshit craziness, do I go with HUSTLE or Osaka Pro? DDT is still my favorite. They have all the batshit insane surreal parts of HUSTLE and more, just in the context of a regular indie wrestling company. Plus they're still going strong and easy to follow (this guy has put up most of their 2014 broadcasts). Illinois Smith fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Aug 24, 2014 |
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Aug 24, 2014 12:24
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HUSTLE is weird because there are plenty of matches that should be downright awful, but end up being watchable at least due to the effort of everyone involved in the entire show from the floor up. Then there's a lot of matches that are just downright awful. Usually if it has an MMA fighter, it's "okay, not great, but fun as a part of the card!" and if it has a veteran pro wrestler, it's "gently caress. dying here." edit: actually, I might grab some DVDs. What's a good year to start on DDT? I didn't know it's been around so long! LvK fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Aug 24, 2014 |
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