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A shame, because what I've played so far seems like a legitimately solid mech sim experience.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 17:42 |
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IIRC it was something about the cash-grabby experience of the game and I think poor balance choices from the devs ruining competitive play. Personally, I don't care about competitive play, I just want a fun experience.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 19:00 |
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neogeo0823 posted:IIRC it was something about the cash-grabby experience of the game and I think poor balance choices from the devs ruining competitive play. Personally, I don't care about competitive play, I just want a fun experience. Cash grabby as compared to what, TF2 or Marvel Puzzle Quest?
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 19:22 |
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A.o.D. posted:Cash grabby as compared to what, TF2 or Marvel Puzzle Quest? I don't remember. I think there was something about a golden mech skin you could buy for $500 that generated a lot of disgust. Keep in mind, I last looked at the MWO thread something like 6 months ago.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 19:24 |
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neogeo0823 posted:I don't remember. I think there was something about a golden mech skin you could buy for $500 that generated a lot of disgust. Keep in mind, I last looked at the MWO thread something like 6 months ago. Yeah those exist, but as far as I can tell, it's the equivalent of a hat.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 19:27 |
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It was largely mechanics such as "Ghost Heat" and the devs releasing progressively shittier maps.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 19:32 |
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neogeo0823 posted:IIRC it was something about the cash-grabby experience of the game and I think poor balance choices from the devs ruining competitive play. Personally, I don't care about competitive play, I just want a fun experience. Really bad/weird choices from the devs, the blatant cash grabs with mech packs, also they seemed to have no idea how to balance things which ended up leading into everyone having to chase the new meta to be competitive. Mech sims aren't that fun when everyone on both sides is playing sniper and if you lumber into view 8 guys will potshot you to death in 15 seconds.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 19:36 |
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Rhymenoserous posted:It was largely mechanics such as "Ghost Heat" and the devs releasing progressively shittier maps. Ghost heat?
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 19:52 |
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A.o.D. posted:Ghost heat? People were 'boating' (putting large amounts of the same weapon on a mech) and basically just sniping/coring other mechs since all their stuff had the same range/deviation/etc, so the developers added 'ghost heat' which was a multiplier on how much heat each weapon generated if you had more than X on your mech. The multipliers were set arbitrarily by weapon type and they didn't even really fix the 'problem', but no mention of this 'feature' was ever put up anywhere in the patch notes or launcher, just one thread on the forums, so if you didn't read it you literally had no way to know what was happening.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 19:56 |
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WarLocke posted:People were 'boating' (putting large amounts of the same weapon on a mech) and basically just sniping/coring other mechs since all their stuff had the same range/deviation/etc, so the developers added 'ghost heat' which was a multiplier on how much heat each weapon generated if you had more than X on your mech. The multipliers were set arbitrarily by weapon type and they didn't even really fix the 'problem', but no mention of this 'feature' was ever put up anywhere in the patch notes or launcher, just one thread on the forums, so if you didn't read it you literally had no way to know what was happening. drat, is the Nova prime going to be playable?
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 20:38 |
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A.o.D. posted:drat, is the Nova prime going to be playable? Yes, it'll be in the new expansion pack. http://www.mwomercs.com/clans
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 20:51 |
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I said come in! posted:Yes, it'll be in the new expansion pack. http://www.mwomercs.com/clans That's not what I meant at all.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 20:53 |
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A.o.D. posted:That's not what I meant at all. Okay???
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 20:58 |
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I said come in! posted:Okay??? He's talking about the ghost heat thing. Novas, IIRC, were big huge laserboats, so having a bunch of weapons that generate tons of heat on a mech in a game that assigns additional heat based on how many of a type of gun you have is a bad idea.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 21:05 |
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neogeo0823 posted:He's talking about the ghost heat thing. Novas, IIRC, were big huge laserboats, so having a bunch of weapons that generate tons of heat on a mech in a game that assigns additional heat based on how many of a type of gun you have is a bad idea. Exactly this. In case you didn't know, I Said Come In!, the Nova prime packs 12 ER Medium Lasers, and nowhere near enough heat sinks to fire them all. My worry is that my favorite clan mech, already one of the most infamous heat boats in all of battle tech lore, will in fact be completely unplayable due to a poorly conceived game mechanic.
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# ? Jun 6, 2014 00:32 |
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A.o.D. posted:Exactly this. In case you didn't know, I Said Come In!, the Nova prime packs 12 ER Medium Lasers, and nowhere near enough heat sinks to fire them all. My worry is that my favorite clan mech, already one of the most infamous heat boats in all of battle tech lore, will in fact be completely unplayable due to a poorly conceived game mechanic. It's really not much different than a Stalker alpha firing and going into overheat/shutdown. That's how they balance it. That said, gently caress them. I quit playing after they put third person in.
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# ? Jun 6, 2014 00:39 |
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Blast of Confetti posted:Runescape, if your definition of good actually means awful. It's fun! The goons are some of the chillest because they're either intoxicated enough to tolerate the game or are bots. Runescape with a bit of booze would actually be fun as poo poo
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# ? Jun 6, 2014 03:02 |
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i dunno where to ask this and didn't want to make a new thread but it sort of might fit here since it was f2p. But there used to be a thread in here about this conversion sort of thing, I think it was of diablo 2 and probably mostly goon ran. It was an online thing, and they had basically made a whole new game out of it and I don't remember what it was called to search easily for it. I just know it was probably based on diablo 2, and it was either mostly, or all online and it seemed really neat. I wanted to try it. does anyone know what Im talking about or am I going nuts?
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# ? Jun 13, 2014 23:37 |
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:i dunno where to ask this and didn't want to make a new thread but it sort of might fit here since it was f2p. But there used to be a thread in here about this conversion sort of thing, I think it was of diablo 2 and probably mostly goon ran. It was an online thing, and they had basically made a whole new game out of it and I don't remember what it was called to search easily for it. I just know it was probably based on diablo 2, and it was either mostly, or all online and it seemed really neat. I wanted to try it. does anyone know what Im talking about or am I going nuts? Eastern Sun?
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# ? Jun 13, 2014 23:56 |
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Linux Nazi posted:Eastern Sun? yeah that was it, although i might be misremembering or mixing some stuff up. thanks! e: I'm still sort of on the lookout for a free to play RPG mmo that my older laptop will run if anyone wants to throw out any suggestions. I had tried rift, liked it but it was randomly blue screening me. Neverwinter looked interesting but when I installed it, the game wouldn't do anything when I tried to launch it, maybe a bad install so reinstalling might work. But any ideas I could look into would be awesome Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jun 14, 2014 |
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I said come in! posted:Yeah I did a search and didn't see the Mechwarrior thread. I think it fell into the archives because it was that inactive. That or it was moved. I remember when Mechwarrior Online first came out a lot of goons were in super hype mode for this game. It was sent into GBS when the mods did that thing where they traded threads with other subforums. Good riddance, though. The game was hopeless and the thread toxic as hell.
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# ? Jun 14, 2014 00:19 |
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What about lineage if that's the one I'm thinking about. I heard it was really grindy but that's fine with me, I just like to mellow out and kill poo poo and work on my character sometimes without really thinking about a lot else. I want to say it was mostly f2p, but I might be confusing games with each other, it's been a while since I read up on MMOs
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# ? Jun 14, 2014 02:19 |
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Under no circumstances should anyone play Mechwarrior Online. It's a poo poo game run by completely fuckheaded developers. There is zero goon presence anymore and the thread was sent to GBS to die because both it and the game are irredeemable. Stay away. EDIT: Also this thread is about games that aren't cash grabs and MWO was one of the most infamous, biggest cash grabs I've ever seen in the gaming industry. They milked the property for all it was worth. Meme Poker Party fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Jun 14, 2014 |
# ? Jun 14, 2014 04:32 |
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Downloading Dragon's prophet to try it out. I heard it's poo poo but wutev.
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# ? Jun 14, 2014 06:05 |
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i wound up going with trying anarchy online out i guess
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# ? Jun 14, 2014 07:12 |
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:Besides EvE Online what are the best MMOs for griefers? Especially those that have some sort of goon presence. Age of Wushu if you want to annoy players by binge drinking and then puking on them until they get drunk as well. Star Trek Online if you want to receive death threats for annoying Orion slave girl RPers with fire extinguishers and disco balls and create your own missions based on goon memes.
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# ? Jun 14, 2014 08:05 |
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I hear there is also APB. There is a very small goon following in that game and it seems to be designed around griefing. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3453531
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# ? Jun 14, 2014 11:56 |
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ShadowMoo posted:I hear there is also APB. There is a very small goon following in that game and it seems to be designed around griefing. If by griefing you mean getting griefed by people who spent $60 for one gun and have thousands of hours invested into the game and know the map and objectives so well they pick the cheesiest possible way to win them by camping or picking certain optimal weapon combinations then yes it is designed around griefing. It's not uncommon to see people with lots of money and or time invested into the game keep switching to different weapons based on which is the most optimal for the situation. Unless you've invested thousands of hours into the game or have money spewing out of your nose you will not have the same versatility as these players and will highly suffer as a result. It's pay2win or grind2win because having the right weapon with lots of upgrades in it is paramount to winning a match and so is having a dedicated organized 4 man team with the most optimal weapons. Most of the open world griefing mechanics were removed from APB because people bitched and moaned. The only real griefing technique in the current game is to intentionally lose matches to make the matchmaking think you suck rear end by arresting players and then killing them (killing an arrested player gives a score penalty). This technique is the entire APB meta and the only reason you should play APB. To be fair though it is a hilarious and wonderful griefing technique but you have to be disciplined enough to lose every match and kill every person you arrest. puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Jun 14, 2014 |
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Unguided posted:Age of Wushu if you want to annoy players by binge drinking and then puking on them until they get drunk as well. Star Trek Online if you want to receive death threats for annoying Orion slave girl RPers with fire extinguishers and disco balls and create your own missions based on goon memes. STO also has the benefit of an active goon player base that's ready and willing to show newbies the ropes and get them kitted out, and a cross-faction chat channel to help tune /zone out. Game's repetitive as gently caress, though.
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# ? Jun 14, 2014 19:53 |
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I'm looking for something to play with a friend of mine until DFO comes back. What's something f2p, with a combo/juggling-based combat system, that actually models weapon collision detection? We tried and ruled out Dragon Nest (ugly, crashed on my computer, my friend loved it though), RaiderZ (similar issues), and PSO2 (I enjoyed it but uninstalled a while back and gently caress dealing with translation patches.) Something less horrifically clunky and tacky than any of those would be great but I realize with f2p that's not likely to happen.
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# ? Jun 15, 2014 17:46 |
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http://community.arcgames.com/en/news/rusty-hearts Possibly rusty hearts? It is a 3d brawler rather than 2d. And the publisher is now perfect world so expect to grind your rear end off or pay money.
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# ? Jun 15, 2014 18:21 |
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ShadowMoo posted:http://community.arcgames.com/en/news/rusty-hearts Sounds perfect, except for the publisher and we're probably not going to get to endgame anyways so it might not be that big a deal. Thanks!
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# ? Jun 15, 2014 18:35 |
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A.o.D. posted:Exactly this. In case you didn't know, I Said Come In!, the Nova prime packs 12 ER Medium Lasers, and nowhere near enough heat sinks to fire them all. My worry is that my favorite clan mech, already one of the most infamous heat boats in all of battle tech lore, will in fact be completely unplayable due to a poorly conceived game mechanic. Many stock or common mechs are completely unplayable. The MWO thread was moved to GBS so the people still playing it could be rightfully mocked.
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# ? Jun 15, 2014 19:14 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Sounds perfect, except for the publisher and we're probably not going to get to endgame anyways so it might not be that big a deal. Thanks! Hit me up ingame as shadowmoo. Im gonna try it out. Also.
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# ? Jun 15, 2014 19:44 |
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I got a closed beta code at E3 for this http://bg.snailgame.com/home/. It goes open beta next week. Looks interesting. Downloading the client now. EDIT: They have an odd microtransaction model. http://www.zenofdesign.com/black-golds-shiny-new-microtransaction-model/ posted:I’m all for innovating inside of the monetization space for games, but innovation implies better, and I’m not sure this applies. Jonah Hex fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Jun 15, 2014 |
# ? Jun 15, 2014 19:58 |
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This is snail games so it's gonna be pay us 1000 dollars money and you will be better than everyone else. Then we will ban you for spending money and give you your account back if you pay us 4000 dollars.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 07:14 |
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Yeah, snail games is the company handling the USA release of Age of Wushu. I'm not 100% on the details, but I believe they recently introduced pets to the game, such as rabbits and elephants and the like. They had also recently completely crashed the market with their "methods" for dealing with gold farming bots in various forms. So, if you wanted to buy a pet outright instead of grinding endlessly for it, at the current price for gold, you'd be paying $600 for a pet bunny that follows you around.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 14:08 |
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Swordsman Online just went CB yesterday. It's like Age of Wushu but the combat is a hundred times better. It has open pvp/pking and it even broadcasts to the entire world who you killed and what you took from them.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 18:50 |
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Dungeon Fighter Online is amazing but you'll have to wait a pretty long time for the beta of the new release, the alpha ended pretty recently. It's pretty much those arcade D&D beat-em-ups with peer to peer multiplayer and is fun and tight as hell.
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# ? Jun 18, 2014 16:24 |
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a medical mystery posted:Dungeon Fighter Online is amazing but you'll have to wait a pretty long time for the beta of the new release, the alpha ended pretty recently. I know, I was in the alpha. The game's kind of a miracle -- the devs had no prior experience except for making a couple of casual/browser games before making it IIRC, and it shows in places, but it still manages to somehow be better than a F2P korean MMO has any right to be. And the up-to-date version is supposed to fix a lot of the early game jank to boot.
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# ? Jun 18, 2014 16:46 |