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This game does look pretty fun.
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Bob Barbas looks like a man I can trust. 
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Dec 7, 2013 03:42
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I forget, does this game ever explain what the angels are up to? There's Eva, then a small group of them in that flashback looking very sad that she was just killed, then... nothing? The demon king (sorry, CEO of Silver Sacks... subtle as ever) is just chilling in his giant tower in the middle of a city he's enslaved, with this game's piles of exposition suggesting he's in control of quite a lot more. Are they losing, or do they not care about humanity, or what? The earlier DMC games were pretty clever about this, in that there weren't actual angels in those games. The Order goes about making fake ones in DMC4 by sticking enslaved demon souls in suits of armor, and there's a bit of flavor text on a few items, but nothing more explicit than that. Here we're explicitly told that they not only exist but at one point were actively fighting the demons, so their absence is pretty conspicuous. JT Jag posted:Nephilim are the children of angels and something else, so Dante being called one is accurate enough even if some of the specifics are not typical. Yeah, the specifics of it don't bother me. What bothered me was that I played this shortly after playing through Diablo 3, then Darksiders 2, and I had el-Shaddai on my list next. I don't know what happened, but nephilim were just all over the place for a while there.
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Dec 7, 2013 03:43
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Is that a Union Jack on Dante's coat sleeve? Is Dante suddenly English?
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Dec 7, 2013 03:44
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DOOP posted:Is that a Union Jack on Dante's coat sleeve? Is Dante suddenly English?
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Dec 7, 2013 04:05
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Nihilarian posted:NT's British, so it's possible. Wasn't looking that closely though. IIRC, didn't Hideki Kamiya envision Dante as British to begin with?
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Dec 7, 2013 04:23
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I did always get a chavvy vibe from him.
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Dec 7, 2013 04:24
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President of Space posted:I forget, does this game ever explain what the angels are up to? There's Eva, then a small group of them in that flashback looking very sad that she was just killed, then... nothing? The demon king (sorry, CEO of Silver Sacks... subtle as ever) is just chilling in his giant tower in the middle of a city he's enslaved, with this game's piles of exposition suggesting he's in control of quite a lot more. Are they losing, or do they not care about humanity, or what? I'm just assuming for now Mundus murdered them all  The church line got me to laugh, so that's at least one point in the game's favor.
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Dec 7, 2013 05:26
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DOOP posted:Is that a Union Jack on Dante's coat sleeve? Is Dante suddenly English? IIRC, it's something to do with the Union Jack being a symbol of youthful rebellion? Like punk, I think. I'm sure that's the reason they gave anyway.
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Dec 7, 2013 06:19
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There is also Judgement in that points thing. The angel weapons don't even make the numbers rise like devil weapons. Lilith became a succubus after the whole banishment thing.
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Dec 7, 2013 08:13
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Pesky Splinter posted:IIRC, it's something to do with the Union Jack being a symbol of youthful rebellion? Like punk, I think. I'm sure that's the reason they gave anyway. I feel like I remember seeing a picture of Tameem wearing a jacket with the Union Jack on the sleeve.
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Dec 7, 2013 11:19
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Pesky Splinter posted:IIRC, it's something to do with the Union Jack being a symbol of youthful rebellion? Like punk, I think. I'm sure that's the reason they gave anyway. The Union Jack has always been a symbol of the punk movement. He's an image of Devil May Cry 1 creator Hideki Kamiya as a young man, standing next to his mom. (Who did the calligraphy for Okami's credits) 
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Dec 7, 2013 13:28
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Aurain posted:The Union Jack has always been a symbol of the punk movement. I only mention it since the LPers caught themselves in an early video, but when it's not on a ship it's the union flag, not jack.
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Dec 7, 2013 13:44
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This is the best gamedev pic ever, and I will cherish it to the end of my days.
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Dec 7, 2013 14:12
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George posted:I only mention it since the LPers caught themselves in an early video, but when it's not on a ship it's the union flag, not jack. Supposedly disputed by historians as recently as October 2013. It's not really important though, I guess. What is important is how cool Hideki Kamiya is. 
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Dec 7, 2013 14:29
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Aurain posted:The Union Jack has always been a symbol of the punk movement. drat, I wish we had a game where we played as him. That man's got style.
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Dec 7, 2013 15:07
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Did you guys just get suckered into playing the entire franchise? Or at least working backwards until you succumb to tedium?
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JohnOfOrdo3 posted:drat, I wish we had a game where we played as him. That man's got style. He sure does.  I'll leave it at that though, it's unfair to hold Tameem against such lofty heights.
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Dec 7, 2013 15:36
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Chaostime posted:For the record I am not a religious scholar. That story does seem like it comes from the Jewish mysticism. The stories tend to have the true name of GOD as a hook somewhere.
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Dec 7, 2013 16:10
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JohnOfOrdo3 posted:drat, I wish we had a game where we played as him. That man's got style.  Oh, but there is In regards to classic Dante's inspiration, his character was supposedly based on the eponymous character from the manga/anime, "Cobra". As well as feeling "cool and stylish to play as". The new one was designed around the theme of youthful rebellion.
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Aurain posted:Supposedly disputed by historians as recently as October 2013. Oh cool. I shouldn't have even brought this up, but it's one thing fewer to be irresponsibly pedantic about.
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Is this Kamiya's signature pose? "BOO TO YOU SIR nah dawg just kidding you're totes alright!"? What a guy. vvv: 
toasterwarrior fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Dec 7, 2013 |
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Dec 7, 2013 21:09
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toasterwarrior posted:What a guy. "You gotta be you. Only one in the world."
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toasterwarrior posted:Is this Kamiya's signature pose? "BOO TO YOU SIR nah dawg just kidding you're totes alright!"? What a guy. It's something a character does in his latest game, the Wonderful 101:  It's hard to describe, but imagine Viewtiful Joe, Pikmin and DMC/Bayonetta all rolled into one. Incidentally, Stinger, High-time, and the ability to keep enemies in the air with bullets is also in, unchanged from DMC1, among the myriad other references that P+ games makes to games they worked on. [e]: Singh Long posted:IIRC, didn't Hideki Kamiya envision Dante as British to begin with? Found this from the DMC design document thing: quote:This is a picture from the time of the first stages of Dante's design. I told Tsuchibayashi that I wanted him to draw an "Englishman" for me. If I had just asked for something modern-looking, I thought the design might wander aimlessly, and so I wanted a character with a bit of an atmosphere of traditional European style. Even though it didn't give quite the punk feeling I wanted. This was the time when he was still set up as a treasure hunter, but his looks, build, and other basic points don't change much compared with the present Dante.  
Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Dec 7, 2013 |
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Dec 7, 2013 21:34
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My life may have been a lie!
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Pesky Splinter posted:It's something a character does in his latest game, the Wonderful 101: If you're like me, and have no imagination, you can watch Chip Cheezum show off the demo instead!  On topic: I went and watched a little of Accounting Nightmare's DMC3 and 4 let's plays and yikes. They're so much more lighthearted compared to this it's not even funny. No wonder people were so disappointed.
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RareAcumen posted:If you're like me, and have no imagination, you can watch Chip Cheezum show off the demo instead!
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Nihilarian posted:To be fair, the original Devil May Cry wasn't nearly as lighthearted as those two either. Still a better game than this, at least from what I've seen so far. But dante wasnt close to being as serious as the environment. The potential RE4 survival horror roots showed alot in the first dmc.
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I personally didn't like the original Devil May Cry that much. I loved the gameplay and especially the boss fights, but the mission design was all over the place, and it had those weird first person segments underwater and perhaps most of all I didn't think Dante quite worked as a character yet. He rubbed me the wrong way just a bit and the attempts at dramatic tension just didn't work like they should've. One of the reasons I kind of liked DMC2 when I first played it is Dante was toned down so significantly, but still had some charm, but in the end he's just more boring (did like some of the alternate costumes though). DMC 3 was where I think they figured him out definitively, and DMC 4 was a solid continuation of that guy without any sort of baggage from DMC 1. They made five games, but only two with the Dante I actually like. I would have liked a third.
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Devil May Cry is the only game of the series that I've played, and it really does show that it was supposed to be a ResEvil game, the fixed camera angles alone give that away. That's not to say it's a bad game (it's really not) but there are some REALLY hammy moments (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4qLEkFJLnM)
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Gotta love that early 2000's quality voice acting.  English VAs getting direction from a non-English speaking director. It would have probably felt even more like a RE game, if they had gone with their original plan of not splitting the game up into missions. I think the RE feel does help to give it the best atmosphere of the series too. If nothing, the old CA screams RE:      [e]: It's way more subdued and serious than the later installements. CRUHZAY Dante doesn't really appear til 3. VVV Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Dec 9, 2013 |
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Chaostime posted:Devil May Cry is the only game of the series that I've played, and it really does show that it was supposed to be a ResEvil game, the fixed camera angles alone give that away. That's not to say it's a bad game (it's really not) but there are some REALLY hammy moments (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4qLEkFJLnM) I wasn't a fan of RE when I first played it, so I had no idea that they were similar.
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DMC1 Dante is basically RE4 Leon with more swords and less grappling hooks.
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Oxxidation posted:DMC1 Dante is basically RE4 Leon with more swords and less grappling hooks. Anything with less grappling hooks is bad  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADrmDqKrAfQ
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DmC is going free on PS+ in Europe on 24th of December. Just like getting socks for Christmas!
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I hear Monster Hunter is getting a Dante costume. But it's Old Dante, which is kinda unexpected for me.
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Nihilarian posted:I hear Monster Hunter is getting a Dante costume. But it's Old Dante, which is kinda unexpected for me. Yeah, Pesky Splinter posted about it. Rebellion looks really messed up when you tune it to MH greatsword proportions, I find. VVV: Oops, it was in the main DMC thread in Games. Pink E/N icon. toasterwarrior fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Dec 13, 2013 |
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toasterwarrior posted:Yeah, Pesky Splinter posted about it. Rebellion looks really messed up when you tune it to MH greatsword proportions, I find.
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I hope you guys like updates!
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Update! Episode 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q708iO1PHXw Cause here it is! One more before the new year in a couple of days also.
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