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Oh, I don't want to miss out on the subtle character nuances of Space Dandy: A Dandy Guy in Space.
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Its probably a missed pun, a real loss for us westerners.
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Jan 5, 2014 23:03
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I'll be interested to see if they can mantain the animation quality until the end. With Adult Swim money they very well may be able to. Dandy's visual personality is a welcome change from the static poses and flappy mouths in most anime, I think the failed gun holster was my favourite part of the episode. The show definitely reminds me of 80s Cobra, which itself was stunningly directed and animated and had a similarly goofy (though ultra-competent) protagonist.
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Jan 5, 2014 23:25
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Broniki posted:I'll be interested to see if they can mantain the animation quality until the end. With Adult Swim money they very well may be able to. Dandy's visual personality is a welcome change from the static poses and flappy mouths in most anime, I think the failed gun holster was my favourite part of the episode. The show definitely reminds me of 80s Cobra, which itself was stunningly directed and animated and had a similarly goofy (though ultra-competent) protagonist. Don't expect the show to have consistent art direction. The entire point of this project is getting as many different people to contribute their own unique styles. Yuasa's episode will probably look nuts, because well, Yuasa.
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Jan 5, 2014 23:34
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He went into some details on his tumblr: http://bahijd.tumblr.com/post/72366702059/so-as-someone-who-worked-on-the-show-i-would-like I like the dub a lot and will continue watching it but I don't think kneejerk reactions downplaying the concerns of the production staff are necessarily the way to go. Especially stuff like: Silentman0 posted:Oh, I don't want to miss out on the subtle character nuances of Space Dandy: A Dandy Guy in Space. which basically proves his point.
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Jan 6, 2014 00:07
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Now that he's specified what he's concerned about, I can understand. I didn't really like that part either, and he's acting pretty level-headed about it. I'm with him in hoping it was just a fluke. Edit: In a worst-case scenario, it's something that could probably be easily redone for the actual home release, if Funi even bothers.
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Jan 6, 2014 00:14
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Xythar posted:He went into some details on his tumblr: I was just about to post this. I hope it was just a random one time fluke because that would've been way funnier to be honest.
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Jan 6, 2014 00:21
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I remember they used the "you're an rear end" piece in promos, but maybe someone in the network decided it was too offensive somehow. I like the extra jokes in the dub like the "not-so-hot wings" bit, a nice slam against Hooters' reputation for lovely food.
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Jan 6, 2014 00:22
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Neeksy posted:I remember they used the "you're an rear end" piece in promos, but maybe someone in the network decided it was too offensive somehow. Do you remember which promo, or can you find it on YT or something? (I assume it was a Toonami commercial?)
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Jan 6, 2014 00:24
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Huh, in the funi sub he says "it starts with a "U"" and then she says "ujimushi?" (Note: ujimushi means 'worm'). The screenshot at that link works wayyy better and I kind of hope they retroactively change it.
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Jan 6, 2014 00:25
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Neeksy posted:I like the extra jokes in the dub like the "not-so-hot wings" bit, a nice slam against Hooters' reputation for lovely food. Yeah like Dandy's rear end monologue was way more fun in english
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Jan 6, 2014 00:32
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Dred Cosmonaut posted:Yeah like Dandy's rear end monologue was way more fun in english "You can't trump the rump." I live when dubs do stuff like that.
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Jan 6, 2014 00:35
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Yeah I think the dub script is really strong overall so I hope they get the minor issues ironed out so I can watch it with no reservations.
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Jan 6, 2014 00:37
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Japanese Twitter response seems overwhelmingly positive, so maybe I've been too quick to judge. If they buy things, anyway.
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Jan 6, 2014 00:45
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Neeksy posted:I remember they used the "you're an rear end" piece in promos, but maybe someone in the network decided it was too offensive somehow. Don't most cable networks have a rule that you can't say "rear end in a top hat" uncensored on TV? (although I've seen them say "poo poo" uncensored on ATHF a couple times so I have no idea what the rules are anymore)
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Jan 6, 2014 01:13
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HorseRenoir posted:Don't most cable networks have a rule that you can't say "rear end in a top hat" uncensored on TV? (although I've seen them say "poo poo" uncensored on ATHF a couple times so I have no idea what the rules are anymore) It's changing, the FCC rules regarding cable have never really been too clear with that, and many networks are getting more freedom to do as they please as time goes on. But at the same time, many places will still self-censor because of fear of possible complaints or sometimes even something as dumb as a higher-up exec having a bug up their bum about it.
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Jan 6, 2014 01:37
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Just watched it. I thought the first half was...all right, but the second half was pretty darn entertaining. The animation is cool, and the dub seems solid to me too. I'm gonna catch it again next week (and hopefully the week after that, and so on).
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Jan 6, 2014 01:46
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Xythar posted:He went into some details on his tumblr: I was wondering this when I watched the dub last night. The change they made really messes up a few things for me. "Asteroid belt" is a terrible joke, so I can't imagine why they felt the need to change the original "worm" or "maggot" in the first place. "rear end" works just as well, which is what was in the preview sub. More importantly, whether Honey says "asteroid belt" or "rear end" also tells us a lot about her character. One makes her sound like an airhead who works at a titty restaurant, the other one subverts the Hooter's waitress persona we're being represented with and makes for a potentially more interesting female character. Which we could use more of. Hopefully they take less liberty with this in the future. There's my SERIOUS ANIME/FEMINISM rant.
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I like all the aliens and how the designs are all over the place.
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roobots posted:More importantly, whether Honey says "asteroid belt" or "rear end" also tells us a lot about her character. One makes her sound like an airhead who works at a titty restaurant, the other one subverts the Hooter's waitress persona we're being represented with and makes for a potentially more interesting female character. Which we could use more of. I get what you're saying, but if her entire character relies on this one line, then they aren't doing a very good job. Really, though, for me, it just comes back to the dub vs. sub debate. The English dub has to fit within a very narrow frame, which requires changing of wording and sometimes meaning of the dialog. With subs, there's more leeway to play around with, and they can even include little sidenotes to explain things that might not be apparent to non-Japanese speakers. But again, they'll have plenty of time to establish Honey as a legitimate character if that's what they intend to do. Great Rumbler fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Jan 6, 2014 |
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Jan 6, 2014 02:30
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Takoluka posted:Someone on my Twitter feed said that someone on the JP staff for the show said that the dub script changes supposedly ruin certain aspects of the show. Can anyone confirm any major differences in the two regions' versions?
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Jan 6, 2014 02:34
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Great Rumbler posted:I get what you're saying, but if her entire character relies on this one line, then they aren't doing a very good job. The show is such a big deal that I'm thinking the dub is in it for the long haul and is trying to play up how dumb she is to make the "reveal" more shocking.
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roobots posted:"Asteroid belt" is a terrible joke, so I can't imagine why they felt the need to change the original "worm" or "maggot" in the first place. "rear end" works just as well, which is what was in the preview sub. The preview sub was also not official, so it doesn't really have any bearing on what Funimation did.
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roobots posted:"Asteroid belt" is a terrible joke, so I can't imagine why they felt the need to change the original "worm" or "maggot" in the first place. Well, the most obvious reason is that worm/maggot don't begin with the same letter as "alien hunter" in English, which is why it needed to be changed to begin with. "rear end" is far better, though.
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Xythar posted:Well, the most obvious reason is that worm/maggot don't begin with the same letter as "alien hunter" in English, which is why it needed to be changed to begin with. "rear end" is far better, though. rear end wouldn't have fit the mouthflaps though. rear end in a top hat could have, but it's one of those weird words that networks don't like.
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Great Rumbler posted:I get what you're saying, but if her entire character relies on this one line, then they aren't doing a very good job. I don't know where you're getting that from. The character is barely in the first episode and only has a few lines. They managed to fit a little bit of characterization into that, and it got removed. It's supposed to be a hint at what's to come, not an whole character study crammed into 30 seconds.
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Great Rumbler posted:I get what you're saying, but if her entire character relies on this one line, then they aren't doing a very good job. Agreed, and by no means do I think the dub for the series is going to be some sort of revisionist poo poo show. I'll probably be keeping an eye on both the sub and dub to see if they keep making changes. Dred Cosmonaut posted:The show is such a big deal that I'm thinking the dub is in it for the long haul and is trying to play up how dumb she is to make the "reveal" more shocking. Hopefully this is their plan, because that'd actually make sense if handled well.
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Magnus Condomus posted:rear end wouldn't have fit the mouthflaps though. rear end in a top hat could have, but it's one of those weird words that networks don't like. Last weeks toonami had a character call someone a shithead, probably not some suit having issues.
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Waffleman_ posted:The preview sub was also not official, so it doesn't really have any bearing on what Funimation did. 
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darealkooky posted:Last weeks toonami had a character call someone a shithead, probably not some suit having issues. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-sutton/title-tales-weird-censors_1_b_85569.html The words that can and cannot be used very widely between stations, execs, and the way the wend is blowing. Southpark has censored the word rear end in a top hat before.
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CHECK THIS OUT YOU WEEABOOS i'm not sure why this guy likes donkey dicks so much. there was an  pic here.
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Dred Cosmonaut posted:The show is such a big deal that I'm thinking the dub is in it for the long haul and is trying to play up how dumb she is to make the "reveal" more shocking. Yeah, this is what i'm guessing is going on as well. There's really no way they'd change her entire character once she gets bigger roles in episodes just because they had to pick a different word that fits with worm in japanese.
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Jan 6, 2014 06:36
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It's a shame, because a good joke like that would have really improved the scene.
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I think it could have worked as is had she placed emphasis on the "rear end" part of asteroid (and also said something other than belt, like asteroid miner or something). Would also make more sense than straight up insulting him.
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aers posted:Don't need to say alleged, the tweets happened. Bahi tweets a ton of insider stuff and deletes most of it immediately because he's a young dude living his dream, basically. As a once-young dude living my animation dream who got caught doing this kind of stuff, he should probably keep his mouth shut more often unless he wants anime studios to quit sending him work.
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HorseRenoir posted:Don't most cable networks have a rule that you can't say "rear end in a top hat" uncensored on TV? (although I've seen them say "poo poo" uncensored on ATHF a couple times so I have no idea what the rules are anymore) Neeksy posted:It's changing, the FCC rules regarding cable have never really been too clear with that, and many networks are getting more freedom to do as they please as time goes on. But at the same time, many places will still self-censor because of fear of possible complaints or sometimes even something as dumb as a higher-up exec having a bug up their bum about it. There are no FCC rules governing language or indecency on cable. None. FCC rules for childrens' television advertisements do extend to cable, as well as general facility maintenance regulations, but that's it. Cable self polices based on a variety of scenarios. The biggest scenario is advertisers, but it can even be a network executive who is personally offended by something and doesn't want that something on his/her network. In the case of Adult Swim, their unique problem is the kids from Cartoon Network don't always turn their sets off when Adult Swim comes on. Good thing their internet livestreams are separated.
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Maybe "asteroid belt" is that universe's equivalent insult for "rear end in a top hat". Correct characterization AND worldbuilding in one line 
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Jan 6, 2014 12:27
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First half: lame jokes but some nice animation during the action scene. Second half: Some funny visual gags and insane action scenes. Hopefully the rest of the episodes focus on the visual aspect of the show because the writing was honestly pretty bad. Love how dandy drops his gun when twirling it around. EDIT: The adult swim version is better written but Dandy's Japanese voice is just better synced. Renoistic fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Jan 6, 2014 |
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Jan 6, 2014 15:03
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Is there a place to stream the dub of the show, or is it only on TV?
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ViggyNash posted:Is there a place to stream the dub of the show, or is it only on TV? Considered that you may not be the first to wonder that? Considered looking through the thread first to check? araeris posted:First episode is up on adultswim.com. You'll have to sign in with your cable/satellite provider.
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