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So, I'm getting a PS4 at the end of the month, and BF4 is going to be the first game I get for it. Since I'm a COD refugee I've got a couple of questions: In COD I pretty much exclusively played Hardcore. I'm reading there's a Hardcore option in BF4, but how does it work? Seems like it's a game/server setup option? How popular is it? Is it a camping snipe fest/more of a camping snipe fest than the standard mode? I'm really liking the core concepts behind this Battlefield, I played one of the older ones once but since I hatehatehate Domination/Conquest games I never got into it. I was never into K/D ratio or stats or anything in COD, just liked levelling my guns and shooting mans, and it ruled when I actually got on a decent team that somewhat worked as a team in objective game modes. BF4 seems like the game I wanted to play all this time.
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Jan 18, 2014 09:49
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yellowcar posted:Hardcore mode is basically reduced player health, no spotting and minimal HUD. The thing I don't like about Conquest/Domination, and this is probably coming from COD, is that if one team is even remotely organized it's far to easy for them to cap and lock down all the objectives and destroy the other team (this was my experience with whatever BF it was I played before, and all the COD games). If you aren't on that team, it's really poo poo, and if you are on that team it's really boring. Rush sounds cool, Defuse might be good fun, and CTF is always fun. TDM can be a fun way to pass the time, or really poo poo and annoying. Kill Confirmed from Blops2 was way more enjoyable, especially in hardcore. I'm really looking forward to trying out the Support and Engineer classes, they look like tons of fun.
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Jan 18, 2014 11:19
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Tasoth posted:Or you end up playing it on the Dom/TDM map, where one side can literally build a fortress and lock the other team down around blind angles they can't shoot around without stepping into a hail of gunfire. Or LVGs. Isn't that what grenades are for?
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Jan 19, 2014 16:50
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Tasoth posted:Nope. It's from E/D of the conquest map, the one that starts by the generator room. Both the kitchen exit to cells and the main tunnel have a blind angle that means getting grenades out there exposes you to fortified positions. The enemy can literally hide in the blow out cells with chest high cover and rain grenades/bullets at you. It's obnoxious. can't you bank grenades off walls, or is the hallway too long for that? Or fill it with smoke and flashbangs? Forgive my noobishness.
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Jan 19, 2014 17:47
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Tasoth posted:
Aha I see what you mean now. Lots of smoke and high explosive would be my strategy there. Not saying it's a good strategy, but that would be mine.
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Jan 19, 2014 20:36
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Hamburlgar posted:Lasers and sights on your guns won't make you a better player or earn you a higher score. If you're poo poo without them, chances are you'll still play poo poo with them. Hell, you can go 0-0 on your KD and still get the MVP ribbon at the end of the round. this is what I'm looking forward to in the game. Shooting mans is cool fun and all, but mortars and rockets? HELL YES! My main non-gimmick build in CoD was a stinger/strela (or equivalent) + burst assault rifle because there's nothing better than shooting down everyone's killstreaks as soon as they spawn. I can't wait to try out the stinger/igla and javelin and all the other rocket launchers people have just been posting about here, and just generally ruin everyone's vehicular fun. And mortars, holy hell those sound great, because the only thing I like better than shooting down airplanes is blowing up snipers. not long now, less than a week... Finger Prince fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Jan 23, 2014 |
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Jan 23, 2014 12:15
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I got my ps4 today.. Well yesterday now... I downloaded and played a shitload of this game. I played through the campaign to get a feel for the guns and play feel. It was terrible, but at least it was short and it only crashed on me twice. Once that was done I threw myself into the multiplayer. Basically I'm poo poo. I die so much, from so many unseen angles, and it takes so many shots to kill anyone. I don't mind dying lots, but it does get a bit boring spending more time watching the deploy screen than shooting mans. I wasn't completely hopeless though, I did a fair job as an engineer. I want to like support, but I just don't like the first gun and it's going to take forever to unlock more.. Anyway, conquest was better than I expected, depending on the map. Rush is a lot of fun, and tdm is awesome in a terrible way. Or terrible in an awesome way. It's lame as hell with the opening kits though.
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Jan 27, 2014 03:26
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PantsBandit posted:If you want someone chill to play with and learn the ropes shoot me a friend request: riotingmime1. I'm just starting out too so no judgement here. I'll probably be adding myself to the goonlist and adding people in a few days. Work. nummy posted:If you haven't yet, replay the last mission to get the other 2 unlocks, and then never touch single player again. The M249 is pretty awesome and will be a big help for one of your first guns. I was actually trying to get the M249, but misunderstood the choice and picked the wrong person! If all I have to do is replay the final mission to get the other unlocks, that's decent. Laserface posted:I'm pretty sure 90% of pubbies have no idea how to spot. I love the spotting thing, especially since I can't see for poo poo and always get picked off from somewhere invisible (usually from behind a rock I just ran past or something), I pretty much just spam the R1 button any time I think there might be anybody hiding somewhere. Or "I saw an enemy jet!", "Enemy helo spotted!". Easy. Not that I can do anything about said jets and helos... come on Stinger, unlock you bastard!
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Jan 27, 2014 09:18
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I'm a fukken n00b, so this news of free pistol and grenade unlocks is pretty darn great because I have nothing unlocked and really wasn't looking forward to trying to get a sweet 5-7 and flashbangs/smokes.
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Jan 29, 2014 00:44
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:I've literally never managed to be productive with flash bangs. The best I can generally hope for is being quite a bit less effective than a damage dealing grenade. I can never hit poo poo with frag grenades, at least I can potentially slightly annoy people with flashbangs.
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Jan 29, 2014 01:08
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Do IR/FLIR scopes see through smoke?
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Jan 29, 2014 09:32
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Beelzebozo posted:Touché. I suppose I should add it. Will do. Oh man a proper 5-7! I've loved that thing since Counterstrike 1.5, even in games where it isn't that great, this buff makes it sound like it's going to be the real deal again.
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Jan 29, 2014 19:13
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woke up early today and got in a game with my friends out in Calgary (7 hour time difference), that was good fun. Nice running around with a squad. After that I had varying degrees of success (the later in the day it got, the less success I was having) just soloing. I had some good fun playing recon, getting loads of points and ribbons. Lots of C4ing tanks and binocular lasing helos. At first I was running with a Carbine, but switched to DMR once I unlocked it to give it them a try. I think what was really killing me and the fun later in the day was my team always getting completely locked down by vehicles. Normally I'm not that bothered, it kind of ebbs and flows, but with no viable anti-tank weapons and the other team generally defending their vehicles well against c4 attacks it started getting lame. I don't know the maps or strategies well enough to be effective using the big anti-tank mine, and I couldn't get close enough to sticky them with c4. I think I died to LMVs and tanks more than I did to infantry.
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Jan 30, 2014 18:56
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osietra posted:Do we actually get to fight dinosaurs eventually? And how would that actually work? Would there be a full rota of comparative enemies with functioning AI or would one team actually play as dinosaurs? How would the AI work exactly? Practicing for when they make a Motorstorm game for PS4?
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Jan 30, 2014 22:19
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D-Pad posted:I finally saw one guy mention it a few pages back but the MK Mod 11 is an amazing gun after you get used to it. I've been loving it since way before this patch. It's actually a superb short range gun if you use it right, so the fact that they increased the dmg for long range is hilarious. Trust me, that plague will spread out of hardcore to the other modes and they will end up nerfing it somehow. I just unlocked this and have been using it on my recon. I can definitely see the potential, it's much nicer than the RFB, but goddamn the iron sights are terrible for that type of gun. Really need some kind of optics and then it'll be good times unlocking the rest of the accessories. In other news, turns out you can blow up vehicles with the repair tool too?! loving awesome!! Sure I might have got run over a few (many) times, but it's great when you're hiding behind something at a flag and some soccer mom drives their SUV into the flagpole and you sprint out and braze it to pieces. I usually manage to take myself out with the C4 when I can pull off that move, so getting run over or noticed and shot to pieces before I get to the tank isn't much different in that regard. Means I don't have to run recon to blow up tanks anymore. And even though I've got my RPG unlocked now, if the other team has an air force, I can switch to stingers and still take out land vehicles if the opportunity presents. One question: How can you tell if a target is being laser designated? Is there some indication to the launcher operator that a helo or tank has been lit up? Oh and might as well add myself to the battlefieldgoons site: King_Dugga I am still terrible.
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Jan 31, 2014 18:35
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a foolish pianist posted:I fired up BF4 on my PS4 for the first time since the week before Christmas, and now I'm getting no in-game audio at all. The little music loop that plays as a round ends just repeats for the entire match. Has this happened to anyone else? this happens to me every so often, anecdotally whenever I deploy as support, but I'm sure it's random. Oddly enough, the times it happened I seemed to do better.
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Feb 1, 2014 10:27
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red19fire posted:Towards the end of the round I got like 5 marksman ribbons from those doofuses that would not leave the roof at D on Lancang. It's exactly 300m from E, and from the second floors you can hit effortless headshots anywhere they stand on the front half of the tallest building. I just don't get camper babbies that are last-ranked on their team but go 20-15 every round hiding in the same spot. How is there joy in that, endlessly racking up SRR kills? to some people, k/d ratio is everything. I think with those people it boils down "I shot more mans than mans shot me, I good at game". I haven't tried hardcore yet, but other than TDM, there isn't really a game mode suited to it. The maps are too big and too open. It works in CoD because you've got tighter maps, no HUD, no minimap, no heal and not many places you can cover the whole map without it being obvious, plus perks that can make it easy to catch campers unawares. I wouldn't want to try hardcore on Golmud railway on Conquest or something.
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Feb 1, 2014 10:42
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NESguerilla posted:To be fair it's never that fun to look at a negative K/D ratio even if you are playing right. I've been in first place on a winning team and still been kind of embarrassed that I got killed more often than I smoked dudes. I always figure 1:1 is a good game for me. If I'm ever at the top of the leaderboard, all that tells me is that my team is really crap.
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Feb 1, 2014 11:26
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I had so much fun with the XM25 airburst on Zavod in TDM a few days ago. Probably a half a dozen guys on the roofs camping, I'd spot one guy on the edge, lob the airbursts, and get 3 kills. Over and over. If any weapon needs a buff, it's that. Map chat, every time I play Dawnbreaker, even if we're winning, it just seems like we're losing the whole time. I don't know if it's just because it's so heavy with tanks, or all the snipers on the tops of buildings, or what. I think my favourite maps so far are Golmud, just because of the scale, and it's really pretty, and Zavod with it's good combination of buildings, cover, and open ground. Also I think they nailed the environment really well, it seems like it could be a real place. I'm kind of digging flood zone too in the small TDM/infantry map because it's such a chaotic maze.
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Feb 1, 2014 12:08
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:When I fire up the game on PS4, it says there's an ongoing 100% XP Boost event going on, but I'm not getting any extra XP. What the? it was working fine for me, it gets tacked on after all your points for ribbons and stuff are added up.
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Feb 1, 2014 20:47
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Pleads posted:The MK11 Mod 0 handles so nice but holy poo poo could its ironsights obstruct any more of your view? Going to be a slog unlocking a decent optic. the first one is ACOG, which isn't bad, but I think a 3.4x would be better. I don't think you get one until late in the tree though, so unless you get one through a battlepack, you're stuck with ACOG if you want any zoom. I know what you mean, hell the canted iron sights don't even block as much I don't think. I think I got my ACOG doing either TDM or Conquest in Flood Zone, either shooting mans on roofs or defending E.
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Feb 1, 2014 20:55
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Booger Presley posted:There's that nifty new headshot indicator to let you know when you've been one shot, which in my case seems to be about 80% of the time. Last game I played I was killed 11 times, 10 of those being head shots. Ridiculous. I guess I have a head the size of a hubcap in this game. When I get that little notifier telling me I nailed someone with a head shot, I think it's pretty sweet, because I sure wasn't aiming there. It's extra sweet when I'm just hosing the air... sorry, suppressing... with a PDW or LMG.
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Feb 2, 2014 02:18
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even better than shouting that you need ammo and medics when all you're trying to do is spot wookies, is accidentally (I don't even know how I manage this) tapping the HUGE loving TOUCHPAD BUTTON and opening Battlelog right when what you really want to do is fire an RPG at a tank, subsequently eating a face full of ordinance. Why the gently caress would I want to look at Battlelog in the middle of a firefight?? Check that, why the gently caress would I want to look at Battlelog ever? If only there was a way to disable that button.
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Feb 2, 2014 03:13
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EOD bot loving owns. I love that little guy, I had so much fun today driving around, burning people's ankles to death, blowing up mortar trucks and tanks while the hapless driver is trying to figure out why his vehicle is suddenly about to explode. And if it gets killed, no problem. If I get killed, it's still there parked behind enemy lines waiting for me to respawn and start taking flags, burning wookies, and destroying vehicles!
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Feb 2, 2014 17:11
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Pleads posted:I made a pubbie friend when we alternated spamming NEED ORDERS because our awful squad leader was dumb. Can you decline squad leadership? Sometimes I get lumped with it and it's kind of pointless when your squad is a bunch of roof wookies. Mostly I'm just like, nah I'd rather follow these cool ranch doritos around, they seem like they've got their poo poo together. It's either that or I'm constantly shouting to attack or defend some random objective because the marker is in my line of sight while I'm trying to spot baddies. When I played with some friends it was alright because we could work together on something, or just not bother with it, but I don't have my mic on when I'm just playing solo.
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Feb 2, 2014 20:33
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Quit, join another game, quit that, play TDM instead, game crashes, turn off playstation. I'm new to battlefield, but at least in cod higher level just equals played longer, not necessarily played better. I would find plenty of guys who'd maxed out their prestige levels and still played like poo poo/got whooped by chumps like me. I wouldn't put level as any indication of how good people are.
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Feb 2, 2014 20:48
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I actually had a pretty fun game (of TDM) on Dawnbreaker today. I think it had something to do with finally getting the Pecheneg unlocked. That thing is a loving brute.
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Feb 3, 2014 04:25
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alansmithee posted:The SP campaign isn't quite as bad as some people make it out in a vacuum. But when you figure that you'll likely need to replay it 3+ times (unless you just marathon it in one go) it becomes a lot more tedious. Fortunately when you beat it the first time, you can restart the last level to get the other two weapons, and the last mission seems to be the shortest. Don't do what I did though and start a new campaign thinking I could just select the mission last mission from there. Now I have to play the whole thing through again, so looks like no m249 for me. That's OK though because I've got the pecheneg now and that's all the hits-like-a-truck bullet hose I could want. As for using carbines, they might be good but they're just boring. You get killed by a carbine and it's like "oh gee, shot by some min-maxer with the optimum loadout again, yawn". You get killed by someone using some obscure lmg or pdw or get chased around a room by an eod bot nipping at your heels, now that's interesting!
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Feb 3, 2014 18:58
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I love the PKP pecheneg, it is such a monster. I think I may have ruined it with a muzzle brake though, because I think the horrendous muzzle climb was what was giving me all those headshots. Like every kill, at any range, headshot ribbon. I'll play around with the heavy barrel and compensator once I unlock them, see how they go. Speaking of unlocks, I can't really figure out what to do with the soflam. I haven't got mav yet, and I guess that's fixed now anyway, but what do you do with it? It supposed to auto spot and lock on things, right? Plus nobody takes much notice of lit up aircraft and tanks. I think I might just switch back to binoculars, they seem more versatile. Mortar is a bit disappointing too, but I think it just needs the right map to be effective, and helpful teammates to spot targets.
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Feb 4, 2014 17:52
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Chemmy posted:You need teamwork to use laser guided stuff. Real teamwork not "why isn't anyone doing what I want". Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Stuff like soflam and mortar would be great fun in an organised squad, support feeding you ammo boxes, engineer taking out all the vehicles, recon sporting and lasing, assault defending the group. Would need good coordination though, and most of the time I'm just doing some random quick matches. Lazyfire posted:Unlock the flash hider on the PK Chang and never look back, you can trust me on this I'm like third on the goon leaderboards with the gun. I generally use a red dot and a magnifier on the thing because it is actually really decent at distance kills, what with the 40 base damage and low bullet drop. Pair it with a stubby or potato grip for better rapid tap firing and you'll be accused of hacking in no time. I'm using the Acog I got in a battlepack for it at the moment, seems to do the job quite well. I'm really liking the various 3.4x scopes on other guns so once I unlock one I'll give it a try too. I was really getting bummed out on Support until I unlocked that gun.
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Feb 4, 2014 19:08
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TjyvTompa posted:The RPG owns, you can kill a tank in 2 hits if you hit it straight from behind. Yeah, it is really good. Thing is I hate tanks, but I also hate helicopters and jets. If only there was a way to carry two launchers. Right now I'm running eod bot and igla on my engineer, but I'll switch to rpg if our pilots are doing a good job harassing the other team's pilots.
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Feb 4, 2014 19:17
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Hmm, playing around on battlelog, I'm thinking about switching my DMR to my engineer and either running shotgun or PDW on my recon with spec ops, motion sensors, and c4 for close quarters infiltration sort of thing. Thoughts? Might be fun. I really like how I've got my pp2000 built right now, are shotguns worth grinding? With assault rifles, machine guns, dmrs, and pdws, I just haven't found a slot for them.
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Feb 4, 2014 21:11
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Derp, can't use pdw on recon. Shotties it is then.
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Feb 4, 2014 21:24
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bringer posted:You can't run PDWs on recon, only engineers. Recon can use carbines for automatic fire but that's it. It does sound super fun... DMR is good, but I think I'll stick to pdw on my engineer, I just really like playing with my pp. (I can always switch between the two depending on the map and requirements)
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Feb 4, 2014 21:45
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revolther posted:I really wish there was some tweak to Conquest that Dice could come up with that promoted teamwork. There are plenty of other game modes that promote playing like a rambo simulator, and Conquest is just a mess with the terrible maps in BF4. Spawning on any squad member rather than just the squad leader reduces any motivation to not run straight into a fray, literally not a single team/squad member has to worry about staying alive or even being an asset so his team can win. It seems like every iteration of the Squad system since BF2 has made it less and less of a teamwork/communication asset and more of a CoD-ish "just keep them constantly in the action". Hell, a proper voice comms or maybe being able to command while playing would probably help. Thing is, that would require organisation. Say you're a useless roof wookie, you and some other random pubbie get lumped into a squad, you get assigned as squad leader. Maybe random pubbie leaves, maybe a few people in a group together join and land in your squad. Now they can only spawn on your rooftop and you don't issue any orders or anything, you just sit there birdwatching through your 50x scope. Best to just leave you up there and let them spawn on each other's locations. So maybe they need to look at how squads are formed, but I don't think you can control in any meaningful way who or how good your squad leader is.
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Feb 4, 2014 22:33
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Cracker King posted:Playing BF4 "correctly" is nonsense. Is winning the match the only thing you guys care about? I mean, I like winning as much as the next guy but this is still a game. BF4 is like the closest thing to playing with GI Joes (and all the cool poo poo they did in my imagination) as a kid. I was playing one game on zavod not long after I got the game and I remember running in to one of the factory buildings following a teammate when the burning hulk of a helicopter flew into the side and crashed at my feet. Juked around it like nothing and kept running. It was then that I thought "this game is pretty fuckin' badass."
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Feb 5, 2014 01:21
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I had some good games today, and a couple of fantastic games (ace commander, entire team helping each other out, me somehow playing like a champ). Then I decided to play a little tdm to try levelling my shotgun, which didn't go very well, and it just went downhill from there. Back to conquest and I couldn't get anything working, team just running around mostly randomly (or so it seemed). Oh well. Started out well at least. Got the sraw unlocked, which is fun, though I'm still learning how to control it well. Love the build I've got for engineer now, mk11, sraw, eod bot, mechanic. My shotty recon isn't going so great though. Just got the 870 and it's strong, but so so slow. It seems like by the time the draw and shoot animation happens, I've already taken 5 carbine shots to the face.
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Feb 6, 2014 02:06
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Snackpack Backpack posted:We really need to have a full party of people using EOD bots. Preferably on a full server so the pubbjes distract the bad guys. Maybe one person should be on the other team to get a shot of the Botswarm. I'm down for this, but I'm on ps4. I was botting around burning tanks and mans under the dish on rogue transmission and a squad mate saw how much fun I was having and brought out his own bot. Two bots running rampant was awesome. A whole squad? That would be something to see.
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Feb 6, 2014 10:15
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Chemmy posted:How have you not unlocked grenades? Throw them at people. I can never hit anyone with them  (or they just run away). Although now with the V40s I can at least huck 'em farther. I'm waiting to get impacts, I'm hoping they'll be better for my left arm girl throwing technique.
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:On PS4 people are absolutely silent. They generally won't even respond if you try to talk to them. Holdover from ps3 I think, where you didn't get a free headset with the console, and psn access was free for everyone, especially spastic tourettes afflicted 12 year olds (the only ones who bought headsets).
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