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Xerzes
May 16, 2012


JoeRules posted:

Any WCW'ers around? We have a Saturday Night issue.

One of their main eventers needs their ointment?

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AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

I am now monitoring this lp.

Do not disappoint me.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮

AtomikKrab posted:

I am now monitoring this lp.

Do not disappoint me.

We in WCW just started a Cruiserweight tournament. People like tournaments, right? And Cruiserweights, too?

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

CaptainYesterday posted:

We in WCW just started a Cruiserweight tournament. People like tournaments, right? And Cruiserweights, too?

The only thing people love more than Cruiserweights is Kevin Nash saying that Cruiserweights are terrible, and we have BOTH. Truly we are the best.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


Just don't let Kevin Nash license the actual theme from a porno for his entrance music rather than forcing him to have a cover version; we'd never be able to come back from that.

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001
:siren: WWF you have an issue with your booking. Check IRC or the Google Doc to get filled in. This needs to be taken care of ASAP. :siren:

JoeRules fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Dec 20, 2013

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001

quote:

WCW Saturday Night

- Dark: Barry Windham and Christian Cage over Men at Work.

- Dark: The Nobility (Eaton, Brookside, Smile, and Williams) beat a random collection of faces - Gibson, Jerry Lynn, Lance Storm, and Taka Michinoku.

- Dark: Raven and Saturn beat Mongo and Kidman when Raven pinned Mongo.

- Dark: Bam Bam Gordy and One Man Gang went over Fire and Ice in the best of the dark matches.

- Commissioner Curt Hennig introduces the newest addition to WCW's commentary team, Jesse "The Body" Ventura! Ventura establishes his heel persona by suggesting he would've made a better commissioner than Hennig, but ultimately helps Hennig introduce the next match in the Cruiserweight Title tournament before assuming his position at the commentary table.

- Rey Misterio Jr beat Juventud Guerrera and advance in the Crusierweight tournament.

- Video Package: Four Horsemen. Recap of the lead-up to Flair's betrayal at Slamboree, as well as Anderson and Benoit's pronouncement of a "New Horsemen" the following night.

- Dusty Rhodes interviews Disco Inferno about his intervention in the Nobility beatdown on Nitro. Disco says he knew that, deep down, Alex Wright was a scumbag all along, and that was why he preemptively took it to him with a chair first in their dance contests. Dusty clearly finds this claim dubious, but tells Disco he's impressed with that Disco had the guts to stand up to King Steven Regal and his thugs. He tells Disco to give the Nobility hell in his tag match next.

- The Blue Bloods (King Steven Regal and Squire David Taylor) defeat Disco Inferno and The Booty Man when Baron Alexander Wright attacks Booty behind the ref's back.

- Regal, Taylor, and Wright look to continue the beatdown post-match, but Dusty Rhodes is out to run them off...armed with a Texas bullrope in hand! Taylor and Wright look alarmed as Rhodes clangs the cowbell threateningly, but Regal simply looks bemused, flashing the "V for victory."

- Konnan defeats Bunkhouse Buck in a US Title match. This match stunk.

- Konnan cuts a promo, saying after his win at Slamboree over two opponents, he feels like a true hero for both Mexicans and Americans alike. That being said, after what happened to him after the match ended, he's realizes he needs all the practice he can get handling surprises if he wants to act like a hero. So he's taking on all challengers for his US title; Ron Simmons and Teddy Long, watching on a monitor backstage, appear very interested in this development as Simmons warms up for his match.

- Ron Simmons (with Teddy Long) defeats Ricky Morton.

- Teddy Long grabs a microphone, talks up Ron Simmons as a former, and the first-ever black, world heavyweight champion, and says that if Konnan is taking on all comers, Simmons is more than happy to extend a challenge.

- Video Package: Hulk Hogan descends into egomania, culminating in his turning on Randy Savage.

- Lex Luger defends his TV title against Dean Malenko. Good match and a good crowd here.

- Sting comes out to face Luger, flat-out telling him that he believes Luger's divided attentions due to the TV Title are what caused them to lose the Tag Team Titles. Sting doesn't think their partnership--or their friendship--can ever be a priority for Lex while he holds the TV Title...so maybe Sting needs to take it from him. Sting departs as Lex looks dismayed. The crowd is in a bit of shock - is Sting going to become a heel?

- Backstage, The Giant cuts a promo explaining that his pride and the WCW Title are more important than blind loyalty to a narcissistic taskmaster like Kevin Sullivan. That's why he refused to lay down Monday night, and that's why he will tear down the Dungeon of Doom man by man rather than forsake his honor.

- The Giant defends his World Heavyweight title against Big Bubba Rogers.

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001

quote:

WWF Superstars


- Dark: 1-2-3 Kid over some guy named Steve Blackman.

- Dark: Hillbilly Jim's new clients, the Hardyz, went over The Dudleyz.

- Superstars opens on Chris Jericho warming up backstage, with Vince and JR hyping the King of the Ring tournament, set to start tonight.

- Rowdy Roddy Piper as guest commentator for Chris Jericho vs. Jesse James. Jesse comes out swinging and gets Jericho in the corner right from the opening bell, but Jericho soon fights back into the match-up. After some back and forth wrestling Jericho applies the Walls of Jericho - however, Jesse gets to the ropes and forces a break. Jericho lets go and instead applies a new submission hold, making James tap. Roddy puts this move over on commentary as the Liontamer.

- Austin trash-talks his opponent for The King of The Ring Tournament, Jannetty. He nearly broke his neck with the Stone Cold Stunner last time, tonight he'll kick Jannetty's rear end again and advance in the tournament, and that's the bottom line 'cause Stone Cold said so! HHH gets the mic and announces that he's been booked for a match against Yokozuna, and looks to take the big man down a peg.

- Austin comes out to the ring for his KOTR 1st round match against Marty Jannetty.

A fast paced mat wrestling match which briefly ends up on the outside, where Stone Cold whips Jannetty into the steel steps. Back inside the ring Jannetty makes a comeback, and is about to get Austin in a belly to back suplex but is countered into a Stunner.

- Vader and the British Bulldog go over Wild Sparks (Holly/Mero). Vader and Bulldog make quick work of the faces.

After the match. Jim Cornette gets on the mic, talks up Bulldog's strength and says that King of the Ring will be Camp Cornette's greatest hour.

- Backstage, Mr Fuji apologizes to Yokozuna, and hopes to be in his corner tonight.

- Elsewhere, Backlund gives Haas a few words a wisdom in a Backlund sort of way. Haas, playing the straight man to Backlund's antics, just accepts the nonsensical ramblings of a crazy man and heads off for his match with D'lo Brown.

Haas beats D'lo in a dreadful match, and Backlund quickly grabs a mic again to pile the praise on Haas.

- Main event is Yoko w/ Fuji vs Hunter w/ Stone Cold.

It's not long before the match ends up on the outside, where the advantage is HHH's after hitting a flying clothesline from the ring apron and ground-and-pounding Yokozuna. The big man fights back into the match-up and whips HHH back into the ring. Meanwhile, Austin moves in on Fuji and steals his bag of salt. Back inside the ring, Hunter tries to set up a Pedigree on Yokozuna, but Yokozuna gets out of the hold before he can hit it and body slams Hunter to the mat. Just as Yokozuna is about to go for the pin, Austin throws salt into his eyes. The ref sees this and disqualifies Hunter.

After the bell, Austin/Hunter try to beat down Yokozuna, but he fights them off... until Vader shows up and the two brawl until the cameras go dark.

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001
- WCW Saturday Night, loaded with 3 title matches, registered a 0.22 rating this week, up from last week's 0.21. WWF Superstars managed about the exact same - a 0.21 this week, up from a 0.20 the week before. Critically, WCW fared better - a C+ rating compared to Superstars D+ rating.

- Word has it that WWF may be about to burn some bridges. After very recently signing a working agreement with ECW, rumor is that they may be moving away from using such agreements and simply signing outright the talent they are interested in. Between the numerous signings of WCW, and a healthy lot of rumors for WWF signings, it's an interesting time to be a free agent wrestler.

- Both companies came under fire recently for having storylines that were not interesting enough for fans. Whether it was the ending and starting of new feuds as we build to another PPV, or whether it was feuds not firing on all cylinders, both companies have been strictly warned by ownership to fix the problem immediately.

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
I need an invite to the new WCW booking doc. If you don't have my email, PM me.

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001
That'll wrap us up for the weekend - have Nitro/RAW ready to be run Sunday night. May take me til Monday morning to actually run them, though.

Evil Badman
Aug 19, 2006

Skills include:
EIGHT-FOOT VERTICAL LEAP

Just caught this. I'll rejoin :wcw:.

Evil Badman fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Dec 21, 2013

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.
During the STRYATHALON last night I was informed that WCW has been slow out of the gate and I jokingly said it was because I carried the team.

This morning I woke to find my pm inbox had three new messages all of which were players asking me to come back.

I'll do it. WCW for life. :allears:

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

please make Big Bubba Rogers champion

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.
I miss the old days where we posted Meltzer things about the behind the scenes stuff and show synopsi from "fans".

Can we bring that back? :v:

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Skunkrocker posted:

I miss the old days where we posted Meltzer things about the behind the scenes stuff and show synopsi from "fans".

Can we bring that back? :v:

If we did, could any backstage news really beat Linda McMahon's Playstation Invitational, won by none other than Linda McMahon.

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.
That was a work. Linda thinks Playstation is a Nintendo product. :colbert:

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001
RAW and Nitro have been run. Write-ups coming tomorrow, plus I have something up my sleeve.

edit: early outlook for SatNight/Superstars is Thursday morning, so get em done, but things should get interestng here tomorrow.

JoeRules fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Dec 23, 2013

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001

WCW MONDAY NITRO posted:

- DARK: Sabu, Rob Van Dam, and Too Cold Scorpio defeat State Patrol and Diamond Dallas Page.

- DARK: That UFC guy Dan Severn beat Scott Norton. I thought WCW hated that Mixed Martial Arts stuff?

- DARK: El Hijo de Santo and Christian Cage defeat Kurasawa and Juventud Guerrera.

- In Nitro's opening contest, Sting, Barry Windham, and Konnan defeat Ron Simmons, Dean Malenko, and Jushin Thunder Liger in a six-man tag. Simmons seems openly disgusted with his tag partners, seeming to consider himself superior to the former US Title contenders.

- Post-match, Lex Luger comes out in street clothes with the TV Title and a microphone, asking Sting if he meant what he said on Saturday Night. Sting takes the mic from him and affirms his challenge, saying the only way he and Lex have a shot at being friends is for Sting to take the TV belt and leave Luger to reassess his priorities. Both Luger and Sting seem to want to say more, but the words won't come; Sting simply walks away, leaving Luger alone in the ring. For such a poignant moment, Sting kinda tripped over his words.

- Scott Steiner defeats Big Bubba Rogers in a singles match. Not the worst match I've ever seen.

- Backstage, Curt Hennig talks to an unseen figure, explaining that, with his new role as Commissioner, he needs support from people he trusts and has history with while he establishes himself. He tells the other individual that he believes he can count on him--can he? The camera then pans to reveal..."Ravishing" Rick Rude! Rude smirks, agreeing that the locker room needs to be whipped into shape, and who better to help than the Sexiest Man Alive? Hennig extends his hand, acknowledging that it's good to have "Deputy Commissioner Rude" aboard. Rude goes to accept the handshake, but lights in the commissioner's office flicker briefly, accompanied by a mysterious wing-flapping sound. Confused, Hennig and Rude finally clasp hands, formalizing Rude's new position.

- Eddy Guerrero defeats Chris Benoit when Ric Flair angrily stalks down the aisle near the match's conclusion, distracting Benoit long enough for Guerrero to slip out the back of a Crippler Crossface attempt and hit a Victory Roll for the pin.

- Ric Flair grabs a microphone and starts laying into Benoit with it, interspersing shots with shouts for Arn Anderson. Finally slapping a figure-four on Benoit, Flair issues a challenges to Anderson to a match at Great American Bash while still applying the hold to Benoit. Before Anderson can come out to respond either way, security emerges to break up the beatdown and pull Flair away.

- Harlem Heat defeat the Nasty Boys in a tag team contest. Then, they grab the mics and point out they did not get pinned in the three-way match at Slamboree and challenge the Road Warriors to a Harlem Street Fight at Great American Bash. The Road Warriors come out and accept, but only as a Chicago Street Fight. Curt Hennig and Rick Rude appear on the TurnerTron; Hennig announces that the new Deputy Commissioner has proposed a compromise. Rude says that, if the two teams are so intent on a street fight, the Road Warriors and Harlem Heat will head to Cleveland, Ohio for the the Great American Bash and have themselves a Cleveland Street Fight for the WCW Tag Team Championships! The Road Warriors remain in the ring for the following contest.

- The Road Warriors defeat Public Enemy in a WCW Tag Team Title match. The Public Enemy tries to set up tables for use during the match, though they ultimately go unused.

- Public Enemy, in a surprising show of sportsmanship, present the tag belts to the Road Warriors in acknowledgement of their defeat. The Warriors accept and share some good-natured handshakes, but all four men are blindsided by Harlem Heat. Booker T and Stevie Ray lay a beating on everyone with chairs, the title belts, and a weapon Stevie Ray terms to the cameraman his "slapjack." The bulk of their scorn is reserved for the Road Warriors, however--Animal is pitched over the top rope through a table at ringside, and another is set up in the ring, allowing Booker T to put Hawk through it with a Harlem Hangover. This segment wasn't awful, but nobody cared one bit that the Public Enemy are now good guys.

- In a tag team match, the Faces of Fear defeat American Males in a brief contest when VK Wallstreet interferes. But why has the money-market mogul involved himself in the Males' business?

- In a singles match, Dusty Rhodes faces Squire David Taylor with King Steven Regal joining the commentary team. Regal explains that the Nobility is superior to the common rabble proliferating throughout WCW, as represented by "The American Dream" Dusty Rhodes. He notes that Rhodes can swing around a bullrope all he wants, but the Nobility shall be victorious. The match itself quickly devolves when Earl Robert Eaton interferes, sneaking in shots on Rhodes. When the referee becomes wise to Eaton's involvement and looks to eject him, Rhodes grabs his Texas bullrope and cracks the cowbell across Taylor's head for the pin.

- Arn Anderson storms into the Commissioner's office and only finds Deputy Commissioner Rick Rude. Anderson says he's looking for Commissioner Hennig, but Rude says, when Hennig isn't available, Rude is the authority and Anderson can answer to him. Anderson acknowledges that Rude and him have history going back to the days of the Dangerous Alliance, so Rude will surely see why Anderson would like to get his hands on Ric Flair for trying to keep himself relevant by sneak-attacking real Horsemen. Rude agrees, and says that if both Flair and Anderson want it, they can have it--Ric Flair will face Arn Anderson one-on-one at the Great American Bash!

- The Great Muta defeats Rick Steiner with a moonsault press. One of the best matches of the night.

- Kevin Sullivan emerges from the backstage area with The Shark and enters the ring, congratulating The Great Muta on another dominant victory and patting himself on the back for admitting Muta to the Dungeon of Doom's ranks. He then changes topics, noting that tonight, the Shark challenges the Giant for the WCW World Heavyweight Title. Sullivan explains that the Giant, being a fighting champion, wants to run through the entire gauntlet of Dungeon members. Sullivan thinks that's great--any one of the Dungeon members could defeat Giant and would be willing to give him, Kevin Sullivan, their Taskmaster, their newly-won title, which the ungrateful Giant refused to do because of foolish pride. Commissioner Curt Hennig appears on the stage and agrees that the gauntlet is a good thing, thinking the Giant's fortitude and readiness for battle makes him a great standard bearer for WCW. However, he does have one note to add--if the Giant can run the gauntlet and defeat every member of the Dungeon of Doom, the Dungeon will be forced to disband!

- MAIN EVENT: The Giant defeats The Shark with a thunderous chokeslam. Kevin Sullivan is on commentary for the match, very notably upset about the recent revelation that the Dungeon may disband if Giant runs the gauntlet, particularly when Tony Schiavone points out to him that the Giant has already defeated Big Bubba Rogers and Sullivan himself, two of the Dungeon's seven members. However, Sullivan puts over the Great Muta in particular as the man who could wrest the title from the Giant and give it to Sullivan.

- Randy Savage is out to the ring for a promo to end the show. He says that Hulk Hogan is a coward and a failure, and that his ego has become so big that it will prevent him from ever again attaining a title. Hulk Hogan comes out to the stage to rebut, saying he doesn't give a drat about WCW's titles--they're worthless without the power of Hulkamania legitimizing them. Besides, he says, Savage is just sore because he got rolled over by Hogan at Slamboree. Savage invites Hogan to the ring, where he'll show Hogan what it's like to be sore.

Hogan begins advancing on the ring...but suddenly, the Outsiders, Scott Hall and Kevin Nash, jump the rail and beat down Savage! Hogan, looking confused, backs up, then goes into a full retreat backstage. Hall and Nash grab microphones, promising to make their intentions for WCW known at the Great American Bash. Security begins to flood to ringside; the show fades to black with the Outsiders escaping into the crowd with confident smirks.

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001

WWF Monday Night RAW posted:

- Dark match: Marty Jannetty vs. Steve Blackman, Jannetty goes over.

- Dark match: Brad Armstrong vs. CW Anderson, Armstrong goes over.

- Dark match: Steve Corino w/Ted DiBiase vs. D'lo Brown, Corino goes over FAAAAAAAAAART

- Chris Jericho entrance accompanied by a limping Piper. In-ring promo on Cornette's Camp. Jericho calls out Owen Hart for keeping the Sharpshooter on Piper after the match was already over. Piper was right when he said Jericho'd never faced anyone like Owen before - in all the countries he's wrestled in, he's never met anyone as childish, and unscrupulous, and petty as Owen Hart. When Jericho is King Jericho The Lionhearted, his first order of business will be to get his hands on Owen, and he will never, EEEEEVER! be the same again! HBK's music hits, and he gets in the ring with Jericho. He offers to work together, as he also has his issues with Camp Cornette.

- King of the Ring video package. Show the current bracket. Commentators announce that another King of the Ring match is next.

- KOTR Round 1: Rocky Maivia/Edge. Rocky offers to shake hands before the match, Edge confusedly accepts. After managing to counter a Samoan drop into a reverse DDT, Edge climbs the top rope, and strikes a pose before going for a cross body. However, Rocky catches Edge and hits the Rock Bottom for the 3-count. Edge looks distraught as Rocky celebrates the win. Without notice, Jake "The Snake" Roberts was managing Edge for this one.

- Rocky Maivia grabs a mic and cuts a quick promo, talks about his bloodline, his wrestling legacy, how he'll honor the Maivia name by rising to the top of the WWF, starting with the KotR tournament.

- Main event announced - Michaels, Jericho and Piper vs. Camp Cornette in a six-man tag team match.

- The commentary desk talks about the enigmatic Yoshihiro Tajiri, the Japanese man of mystery, whose first televised match will be his first round match in the King Of The Ring Tournament. Jerry Lawler comes out and piledrives Kaz, and Gorilla declares that Aldo Montoya will replace Kaz.

- KOTR Round 1: Tajiri w/ Sho Funaki v. Aldo Montoya. Tajiri went over quickly. Mr. Fuji managed Tajiri here.

- Tatanka/Ahmed Johnson. Bob Backlund on guest commentary. Tatanka wins after interference from Charlie Haas.

- Backstage segment, Phatu is polishing his nice new Intercontinental Championship belt, when Sunny walks in with an official and talks him into giving Tom Prichard a title shot with her feminine wiles. He accepts, and she ups the ante, asking if they could... have a menage a trois? He accepts, flustered, before she tells the official, "You heard it, Tom is officially in tonight's IC Title rematch!" and walks away, leaving Phatu confused.

- Ultimate Warrior (now managed by Paul Bearer) squashes Jesse James, and gets attacked by Mankind after the match.

- On his way to the IC Title match, Goldust is attacked by The Undertaker. They brawl for a few minutes, before UT leaves Goldust laid out backstage, in no condition to wrestle.

- Tom Prichard defeats Phatu for the IC Title.

- Video package of Goldust/Taker feud.

- Main: Vader, Bulldog, and Owen w/Cornette vs. HBK, Jericho, and Piper. Kind of a mess here - I think there was too much going on. Maybe it came off better on TV, but live, it was pretty much a shitshow. Bulldog pins Piper, and Camp Cornette ends the show celebrating in the ring.

- Dark main event: The Undertaker defeats Hunter Hearst Helmsley.

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001
- Another topsy-turvy week in the battle between these two companies. WCW improved their rating to a 2.88 - approximately where their ratings were before last week. WWF saw RAW's rating fall to a 2.36 (from 2.72 last week).

- WCW edged WWF in regards to critics as well - this week's Nitro was considered to be a C+ overall, where RAW was only a C. However, wrestling fans in AOL Chat Rooms have been much less favorable to WWF, criticizing the sloppiness of debuting a heel worker with a face manager, changing names of workers without any segments to explain it, and other odd booking decisions.

- Al Snow approached WWF management with some contract worries, and ended up leaving for ECW. It is generally considered that Snow and WWF parted ways amicably.

- While the Al Snow decision wasn't tough for WWF writers, supposedly dealing with some of their talent is. The reports we're getting are either incredibly off the mark, or SEVERAL wrestlers took issue with the original booking plans for RAW. The one common thread is that the booking to a match featuring the Ultimate Warrior led to a tense moment between the Warrior and the writing staff.

- While there's nothing concrete out there yet, WWF believes RAW will be extended to a 2 hour show, much like Nitro recently became, in the coming weeks. At this point, it's probably more of a "when" than an "if".

- Another unconfirmed report: Supposedly a middling WWF-hanger-on working in WCW was offered a small-time Pay Per Appearance gig up north - nothing that would have conflicted with his deal with WCW. Management freaked out and immediately gave the worker a brand new written contract (with pay raise) rather than let him pull in a seperate paycheck in the indies. I can't make heads or tails of it.

- With both companies still seemingly expanding their rosters, wrestlers have dollar signs in their eyes. At least a few independent wrestlers have been offered contracts by both companies, and I've even heard rumors that some workers are lying about being contacted by both, in order to drum up a "bidding war".

edit: WWF, you've got a couple of things to vote on via IRC.

JoeRules fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Dec 23, 2013

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
It's a wonderful time to be a pro wrestler, because Wrestling on TV is here to stay.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮

JoeRules posted:

- Another unconfirmed report: Supposedly a middling WWF-hanger-on working in WCW was offered a small-time Pay Per Appearance gig up north - nothing that would have conflicted with his deal with WCW. Management freaked out and immediately gave the worker a brand new written contract (with pay raise) rather than let him pull in a seperate paycheck in the indies. I can't make heads or tails of it.

Clever boy.

Q7kid
Jul 24, 2009

JoeRules posted:

I can't make heads or tails of it.

:golfclap:

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001
Today was pretty dead, so I don't want to push things along too much if folks are going to be out due to the Holidays. Here's what we've got going on:

- WWF determined 2 pieces of significant information today, plus signed a couple notable free agents. Who? No! Find out in the Observer!

- WCW has SatNight mostly ready to go - I wouldn't be surprised if they've got it in the can by midday tomorrow.

- I have an "event" planned, ready to start as soon as there's some liveliness around here.

Enjoy your holidays fellas, but we've got some interesting things that lie ahead.

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




Yeah, I'd suggest letting this thing lay dormant for a few days. I know I won't be likely to be available for very long, at least.

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001
I just left WCW a nice present under their IRC tree.

Abrasive Obelisk
May 2, 2013

I joined th
ROVPACK IN THE HOOUUUUSE!
:vince:
he still knows...

JoeRules posted:

I just left WCW a nice present under their IRC tree.

Yeah, but you gave WWF our present EARLY :smug:

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.

JoeRules posted:

I just left WCW a nice present under their IRC tree.

It better not be a pony. :colbert:

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001
Superstars will run by tomorrow, and SatNight has already been run. In the meantime, here's a mini-Observer.

quote:

- WWF hired two workers this week that should be making their debuts on TV rather soon. "The Model" Rick Martel and "The Belfast Bruiser" Dave Finlay signed and supposedly the writing team already has plans for these two.

- WWF's Brian Pillman underwent surgery on his shattered knee this week. While surgery was always an option, supposedly Pillman was content to let it heal naturally, as he is under a fully-guaranteed contract. WWF officials had Pillman on a conference call this week, explaining what plans they had for him as soon as he was physically able. The call must have made quite the impression, as Pillman went under the knife the very next day.

- WCW's Paul Orndorff apparently didn't care for his last appearance on Nitro. Because of the generally negative response to his appearance, he's decided to retire from wrestling for good. Word was he had told officials that he was good for an occasional match - but he was thinking Starrcade occasional, and not Hogan-fodder-on-Nitro occasional. We'll likely still see him in some capacity at WCW, just don't expect him to be inside the ring.

Abrasive Obelisk
May 2, 2013

I joined th
ROVPACK IN THE HOOUUUUSE!
:vince:
he still knows...

JoeRules posted:

Superstars will run by tomorrow, and SatNight has already been run. In the meantime, here's a mini-Observer.

... :psyduck: So, by repeating a match that happened ELEVEN YEARS AGO with two old-as-hell gentlemen, you drove one of them to retirement and a legends contract? What's wrong with you!?

At least WWF knows now that we can't be as incompetent as WCW, I guess.

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.

Abrasive Obelisk posted:

... :psyduck: So, by repeating a match that happened ELEVEN YEARS AGO with two old-as-hell gentlemen, you drove one of them to retirement and a legends contract? What's wrong with you!?

At least WWF knows now that we can't be as incompetent as WCW, I guess.

Not my fault. Wasn't there for it.

Q7kid
Jul 24, 2009

Abrasive Obelisk posted:

... :psyduck: So, by repeating a match that happened ELEVEN YEARS AGO with two old-as-hell gentlemen, you drove one of them to retirement and a legends contract? What's wrong with you!?

Truly, we anticipated using Paul Orndorff as a perennial main eventer and are crushed utterly that he has opted to end his in-ring career.

Abrasive Obelisk posted:

At least WWF knows now that we can't be as incompetent as WCW, I guess.

Intercontinental Champion Dr. Tom Prichard.

Abrasive Obelisk
May 2, 2013

I joined th
ROVPACK IN THE HOOUUUUSE!
:vince:
he still knows...

Q7kid posted:

Truly, we anticipated using Paul Orndorff as a perennial main eventer and are crushed utterly that he has opted to end his in-ring career.


Intercontinental Champion Dr. Tom Prichard.

Well, we have to do that per Vince's orders, so we gave him a push. Don't see you doing that with whichever Road Warrior Ted cares about.

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.
Ted cares about all of the WCW wrestlers equally. :colbert:

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001

Saturday Night posted:

- DARK MATCH: Raven & Saturn defeat "Hardwork" Bobby Walker and Joey Maggs.

- DARK MATCH: Terry Gordy and Dan "The Beast" Severn defeat the Rock 'n Roll Express. Decent match here.

- In Saturday Night's opening contest, Squire David Taylor, Baron Alexander Wright, Duke Douglas Williams, and Lord Robert Brookside defeat The Public Enemy and Fire & Ice.

- The Giant is out to the ring for his impending title defense against Hugh Morrus. He takes the house mic and expresses excitement that he can control his destiny and disband the Dungeon of Doom, achieving total victory over Kevin Sullivan's goon squad.

- The Giant defeats Hugh Morrus with the chokeslam in a match for the WCW Championship.

- La Parka defeats Jerry Lynn in the opening round of the Cruiserweight Title tournament. Commentators note that Lynn is the former Mr. JL, whom Psicosis recently unmasked.

- Dusty Rhodes interviews VK Wallstreet backstage, asking for an explanation to why Wallstreet attacked the American Males on Nitro. Wallstreet explains that he's been having a rough few weeks playing the stock market and lost a pretty penny--though he's still richer than the entire crowd put together, of course. In an effort to blow off some steam, he tried to beat down Jerry Lynn some weeks ago, only to have Marcus Bagwell and Scotty Riggs decide to play heroes. Wallstreet notes that he's a man with deep pockets and a deeper capacity to hold a grudge, and the American Males have pissed off the wrong guy.

- The American Males defeat Men at Work.

- Post-match, Wallstreet, armed with a steel briefcase, bashes both Riggs and Bagwell in their faces. He raises the briefcase in rage and triumph over their fallen forms.

- A tag team match between the Nasty Boys and the Border Patrol is about to get started when, suddenly, the lights go out and the mysterious wings-flapping noise can be heard. As the commentators scramble to figure out what exactly is going on, multiple cracks akin to the sound of metal folding chair attacks are heard. The lights come back on only to find all four men unconscious! The referees waves the match off, as the competitors are hardly even beginning to stir. The crowd wasn't really sure how to respond here.

- King Steven Regal defeats Disco Inferno with the Regal Stretch. During the bout, Disco shows some surprising fire, though the spirited effort is not enough to overcome Regal.

- Post-match, Dusty Rhodes emerges from the backstage area armed with his Texas bullrope and challenges Regal to discard his noble trappings and face him, at the Great American Bash, in a match made in America--the Texas Bullrope Match! Regal takes a microphone and, though expressing some disgust at being tied to the filthy Rhodes, accepts the challenge, vowing to beat the "low-class ruffian" at his own game and prove British dominance. Rhodes clangs the cowbell excitedly, promising that "there's gonna be a-clubberin' in Cleveland, and I'ma show jolly old England what it's like to live the American Dream!"

- Video Package: Video recap of Arn Anderson's betrayal of Ric Flair at Slamboree, Anderson's vow that a New Horsemen will drive on, and Ric Flair returning to beat down Benoit and challenge Anderson.

- Lex Luger defends the Television Title against Earl Robert Eaton. Halfway through the match Sting suddenly shows up at ring side and glares, which distracts Lex enough to get rolled up. He kicks out and goes on a comeback offense earning a clean pin with his big running forearm.

- Post-match, Lex stares down Sting, who just claps slowly as he heads toward the back. Sting's face shows conflict--he does appear to be happy Luger won, but clearly remains upset with him.

- Video Package: A muscled & mulleted figured is shown in super slo-mo executing a running Cryon-Bomb on an unidentified robed figure. Before impact, the screen fades to a "Blood Runs Cold" title card, which itself dissolves to a second title card: "GLACIER."

- Dusty Rhodes interviews "Macho Man" Randy Savage. Savage ignores questions about the Outsiders attack on Monday, wholly focusing on Hulk Hogan. He says Hogan may think Hulkamania is the strongest thing there is, but Hogan himself is just a man, and no man is bigger than the WCW Title. Accordingly, he says he intends to challenge Hulk Hogan one-on-one at the Great American Bash, deflate his rather enlarged ego, get some well-deserved payback for Slamboree, and work his way back to a title opportunity..."ohhhhhhh yeahhhhh, dig it!"

- MAIN EVENT: Randy Savage defeats Diamond Dallas Page by pinfall with the flying elbow. Really solid match to wrap up the card.

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001

Superstars posted:

- DARK: Matt Hardy over Aldo Montoya. Crowd hates it.

- DARK: Jesse James over Robert Ford.

- DARK: Tajiri w/ Funaki over Brooklyn Brawler. Crowd hates it even more than the first dark match.

- Jeff and Matt Hardy talk about growing up in North Carolina, dreaming of being part of the WWF. Jeff talks about how he's going to achieve his dream and win the King Of The Ring Tournament.

- Buh Buh and D-Von come out and taunt the Hardys for being a couple of gawky little geeks.

- KOTR Round 1: Jeff Hardy w/Matt Hardy v. Buh-Buh Ray Dudley w/D-Von Dudley, Jeff gets Buh Buh Ray with a lucky rollup.

- British Bulldog v. Marc Mero, Bulldog goes over quickly and dominantly. It was announced that Marlena had acquired the managerial contract for Wild Sparks, though she was still playing the heel a bit out there.

- Cornette and Owen talk about Owen's next match, round 1 in KOTR, and how he almost had Michaels last week on Raw. He talks about HBK and Bret's match at Wrestlemania 12: "MY BROTHER BRET TOOK YOU TO THE LIMIT, ONE HOUR YOU WERE EVENLY MATCHED! I'M GOING TO SURPASS HIM, FIRST BY WINNING KING OF THE RING FOR A SECOND TIME, THEN BY BEATING YOU LIKE HE NEVER COULD!"

- KOTR Round 1: Owen Hart/Barry Horowitz, Owen goes over in a really short match.

- Paul Bearer backstage promo on Goldust. "Oh, Goldust, how you love to hide behind your Hollywood camera tricks and your frightening facepaint! But know this, my Undertaker has no need for parlor tricks or hoaxes! He holds TRUE power! OHHHH YEEEEEEES!"

- Taker/Kid Kash, Taker goes over.

- Prichard and Candido, the Bodydonnas, are talking backstage. Candido talks about how he should be the one with the Intercontinental belt, and they start to fight before Sunny breaks it up and calms them down.

- Candido vs. Billy Gunn, Billy goes over in a pretty 'meh' match.

- Mankind vs. Savio vega, Mankind goes over. Long, uncomfortable beating. Savio's hope spots are few and far between. It goes on and on and on. Mankind can be heard shouting throughout the match, screeching and wailing, referring to Savio as Warrior, telling him how much he loves to give and receive pain.

- KOTR Round 1: Bob Holly/D'Lo Brown, Holly (w/ Marlena) goes over but the crowd doesn't care.

- Video package of the HBK/Jericho/Piper vs. Vader/Bulldog/Mankind match from Raw.

- Jim Cornette and Vader on Piper's Pit, talking about their victory on Raw.

- Yokozuna runs in. Yeah, you read that right. Vader and Yokozuna stare down to end the show.

- Once the cameras went dark, HBK went over Goldust in your typical dark main event.

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001
I'll get to the Observer when I get to it - nobody cares about B-show ratings anyways. At this point, I'm just waiting to get some decent action going on the IRC side, and I'll start some contract-signing frenzy.

Start working on Nitro and RAW - these contracts getting signed won't impact them - and be warned: :siren: the winner of this week's critical ratings will be awarded a prize. :siren: Will it be WCW on their last Nitro before GAB? Or will RAW continue the pattern of back-and-forth wins?

Evil Badman
Aug 19, 2006

Skills include:
EIGHT-FOOT VERTICAL LEAP

JoeRules posted:

DARK: Jesse James over Robert Ford.

Like smoking crack, for instance.

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JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001
:supaburn: Breaking News from the Observer :supaburn:

It's just been confirmed that WWF has broken their working agreement with USWA. The move was made, in part, to try and sign Jeff Jarrett to an exclusive contract. However, WCW beat them to the punch and was able to get Jarrett inked earlier today. With money earmarked for Jarrett in the budget, WWF has begun making phone calls to try and sign some quality talent - possibly even from WCW themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DElG1d-91Yw&t=89s

During the Monday Night Wars, one of the most exciting things was seeing wrestlers jump ship from one company to the next. And of course, with these two companies signing everyone in sight, it should be no question that people on both sides have asked to sign their rival's workers. The answer from me has been "not at this time" whenever asked.

And now that time has come.

What can be offered?

First things first, all of the wrestlers here will only sign a new deal if it is a written guaranteed deal. What you can offer is the number of years, monthly pay rate, and any combination of the following perks: Wage Matching (meaning the worker can force a raise to match anyone paid higher than them), Hiring Veto (which allows a worker to nix the hiring of someone he doesn't care for), and Creative Control (which allows the wrestler to reject angles and matches that do not satisfy him).

Who can be signed?

Any member of either roster that is under a Pay-Per-Appearance contract. You may use your offers to extend your own wrestlers, or to hire away rivals.

There will be 3 rounds of bidding, which I expect to take about a day each.

Round 1: 4 offers to extend.
Round 2: 2 offers to extend.
Round 3: 1 offer to extend. *NOTE* This round will take place AFTER Nitro/RAW.

This might mean offering contracts to 7 different wrestlers, or 4 the first day, then up your offer to 2 of those on the second day, then re-upping your offer on your prized possession on the last day.

Who is on a Pay-Per-Appearance deal?

WCW
Billy Kidman
Bobby Walker
Eddy Guerrero
El Gato
Jerry Lynn
Jushin Thunder Liger
Konnan
Kurasawa
Scott Norton
Squire David Taylor

WWF
Brooklyn Brawler
Jerry Lawler
Jesse James
King Mabel
Phinias Godwinn

USWA
Flex Kavana (previously Rocky Maivia in the WWF, now back in USWA after the end of their agreement)

How do we sign them?

In your Google Docs, create a tab labeled "Free Agent Bids". You will list the name and the offer you are extending. Make 2 other columns for related questions and answers - "How much does wrestler x make?" "How much are most of my midcarders making?". Once your bids for that round are complete, select them and make the text red. Keep in mind, once the text goes red, the offer cannot be changed for that round.

One Last Thing

Before you dash off to start making contract offers, I need your vote on this. Because our IRC channel and Google Docs are off-limits to the public, thread watchers miss out on some of the good stuff here. As much as I want to hide the results of this little experiment and make it a shock when these workers debut on new programs, I also think it may be too much to withhold. So, you will vote: Should the Observer announce the results of this hiring spree, or should the public be kept in the dark until Wrestler X debuts on Nitraw on any given Monday? On IRC, type "/msg JoeRules Public/Private" and tell me what you think. First one to 5 votes, regardless of company, decides.

Secondly, I miss the awesome RAW/Nitro breakdowns and message board postings that went on in the last thread. Take up the flag for your company and put some effort in: starting NOW (in regards to this little mini-game and moving forward) some favoritism will be shown to companies that add a little liveliness to the thread. In the same vein, if anyone following cares enough to be a "media representative" I might even open a new google doc with real and fake leaked news for you to report on.

JoeRules fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Dec 26, 2013

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