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NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Can I still sign up as a booker, this looks fun as hell.

# ¿ Jan 2, 2014 04:51

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 17:03

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Yeah, sent you a PM, going to have to go with the WWF. Always been more of a Jericho and Mankind mark.

# ¿ Jan 2, 2014 05:02

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Well drat

# ¿ Jan 9, 2014 01:36

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

CaptainYesterday posted:

You'd be surprised.

Is DDP still fighting everyone?

# ¿ Jan 10, 2014 23:23

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

JoeRules posted:

WCW, you've got an incident to deal with!

DDP or Hogan killed someone.

# ¿ Jan 11, 2014 18:43

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Hey we're making up for lost time and beating you in PPV buy rates. Don't get cocky yet.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2014 23:54

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Evil Badman posted:

failed to pull the trigger on Austin 3:16 winning KOTR

I disagreed with Austin 3:16, but then we couldn't simply because what was happening with Jake the Snake. I want to do a certain gimmick involving him later on.

# ¿ Jan 31, 2014 02:13

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

CaptainYesterday posted:

Let's take a look at where the wrestlers are now:

Brian James: Tag Team Champion

of a joke tag team. Liger and Taylor are getting real pushes, though it's sorta bad Liger fell off the ladder the way he did.

# ¿ Feb 11, 2014 05:26

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

HartDynasty4Evar posted:

Well was just at RAW eariler tonight, both Harts where there so anyone who's anyone knows it was a good show! but for those of you who more of nit and gritty here's what went on.

DARK PROMO: Pillman came out and hyped up this RAW, the dark match, and well, just him, to be frank. The dude can talk but butts had yet to fill the seats so it fell on a lot deaf ears.

DARK MATCH: Next up was a Dark Match with Pillman and the Two Man Power Trip vs Hardy and Hay Dick. Match ended when they beat Hay Dick and Matt Hardy when Brian Pillman hit Kaz Hayashi with Air Pillman for a pin. Austin and Pillman looked really good out there.

DARK MATCH: Dirty White Boy & Men's Teioh vs. Marc Mero & URSUS. Marc Mero and a big bear they called URSUS beat the Dirty White Boy and Men's Teioh when Mero pinned Dirty White Boy. This was a stinker

DARK Match: Taz & Tatanka vs. Chris Daniels and Shane Helms. Tatanka pined Helms for the win.

To begin RAW, Vince McMahon is announced as the new acting President of the WWF after Gorilla Monsoon's injury at the hands of Vader last Superstars. He also announces a Fearsome Foursome match for number one contendership to the WWF title next week on the Raw Is [CENSORED] special, to celebrate a momentous change in the World Wrestling Federation. Let me tell you TV viewers. Big things are coming.

Goldust and Undertaker hosting Inside The Actors' Studio. They begin by ranting about how Kane and Warrior stole their victory off a lucky fluke. If Kane and Ultimate Warrior were to face them again, any night, they would be the ones standing over Warrior and Kane. Suddenly, fire erupts from the turnbuckles, and Kane's music begins to play. He walks out with the Ultimate Warrior and Paul Bearer. Paul Bearer: "OoOoOoOohhh, Undertaker, you know better than to speak to your brother that way! I have just the punishment: a tag team match, tonight! Prove you're right, or we'll prove you wrong!" Goldust: "I meant what I said, Bearer! We'll take you on, no problem!" Taker looked spooky as hell here, which is good because Paul Bearer sucked.

Samu vs. Bart Gunn, Samu kept beating Bart after the match, and when Billy came in to help, Sione and Phatu came out. Looks like Phatu's heel now. Not that bad.

Cornette is laughing backstage with British Bulldog, when Dave Taylor comes up. "Bulldog, if you think I'll take that embarassment in my home country lightly, you're more of a pillock than you let on! I want a rematch, and this time I want it fair!" Cornette: "What the heck are you talking about, fair? You heard the referee, he pinned you, 1-2-3. It doesn't get fairer than that!" Taylor tries to rebuff, but Taylor and Cornette walk away while he's talking to them. Bulldog didn't do well offscript, but the segement went okay.

The next part is ah, kinda weird guys.

They cut all the arena lights and started playing a video.

It started with Shawn Michaels standing in a black void with only a spotlight on his face. He looked lost, worried. Then the voice of God boomed across the arena.

"SHAWN MICHAELS, YOU HAVE FAILED ME. YOU WERE MY CHOSEN ONE, MY CHAMPION, BUT YOU FALTERED WHEN YOU WERE MOST NEEDED. AS PUNISHMENT, YOU WILL BE ERASED FROM HISTORY, YOU WILL NEVER HAVE BEEN."

"But, Lord! I'm one of the finest wrestlers to have ever walked the earth! I-I'LL DO ANYTHING TO REDEEM MYSELF, LORD!"

There is no response, and the video fades out as Michaels keeps pleading his fate.

Weird as hell but it was good.

Next was a Skunkrocker vs Dave Taylor match for the Pan-American Title, Skunkrocker retained his title against Dave Taylor by leaving the ring and walking out until the Ref counted to 10. Pretty boring.

Brian Pillman hype vid was next: Pillman is looking at a Summerslam poster and pointing at the pictures, going "eeny-meeny-miny-mo, catch a tiger by the toe, if he hollers let him go, eeny-meeny-minyyyyyyyyy" fade to black. This was very good.

The next match, Tom Prichard beat Funaki in a quick non-title match. Just a lot of generic pushing, punching, and shoving. Just Blah all around. It Pretty boring and the crowd didn't seem too interested at first...

Then Prichard started a typical 'who's next promo' "I beat Tatanka at Summerslam, I've beat Ford and Bradshaw, and now I wanna know: who's up next? who else wants a shot at my title? I'm ready and willing to step up." Then Candido's theme plays! Tom looks confused until Austin comes out and gives him a Stunner! HHH comes out to high-five him while Pillman sits in the background slow clapping. This was okay especially considering Prichard was in it. Blah.

Next up was the next part of the Mankind/Vince Interviews:

Vince and Mankind discuss Mankind's earlier career both in WCW and in Japan. "I fought for WCW, and every time I went out I gave them my all, I worked as hard as I could, but I still wasn't seen a superstar. They called me ugly, they called me brutal, they called me insane!" Foley laughs bitterly at this. "I gave my flesh, my blood, my EAR for WCW, but they kept saying I didn't have 'the look'. They didn't have any problems with what I was doing until I lost my ear! No, that was too far for them! They couldn't handle me! So I went to Japan, had some of the most violent matches in wrestling history with Terry Funk. I almost died in that ring more times than I can count, I inflicted pain upon my body that I still feel to this day. Was it worth it? Was it worth the pain and sacrifice to be the King Of The Deathmatch? Almost. Almost. If people can't love me for the way I look, like Shawn Michaels, that's fine. But I'll be drat sure to get them to respect me. I proved I was the toughest in WCW. I proved I was the toughest in Japan. Now I'll prove I'm the toughest in the big leagues, the WWF." Vince just looks sad as hell in this interview. I was too. This was good. Poor Foley.

Bret Hart comes out to cut a promo. "Owen, you talked a big game for the past few weeks, and at Summerslam, I proved you wrong. Typical baby brother, always trying to upstage-" Owen comes out from backstage to interrupt. "DON'T YOU BABY BROTHER ME, BRET! I've taken your crap for too long! You've always called me baby brother, the little one, pipsqueak! You never respected my ability! Even when I beat you at Wrestlemania 10, you wrote it off as a fluke! It was no fluke, Bret! I'M JUST! AS! GOOD! AS! YOU! AND I INTEND TO PROVE IT!" I marked out like hell, but to be honest Owen struggled a little bit. That was okay though because Bret "the hitman hart" delivered.

Next up Chris Jericho vs Buh Buh Ray Dudley. Dudely looked okay in this as he threw his weight around and tried to push Jericho around. He did for awhile but then Jericho caught on and managed to outwit him being fooling him into running into the corner and then tossing him on his rear end, then hitting with the Walls Of Jericho. Dudely tried reaching to the ropes but Jerichio pulled him into the center of the ring. Decent match.

Jericho and Piper cut a promo on the TMPT afterwards. "At Summerslam, Piper and I won number one contendership to your tag titles! Next week, on Raw Is [CENSORED], we want our match for the titles! And when we beat you for those belts, you won't be standing so high!" This was pretty fun!

Hype video: Dave Taylor leads Shawn Michaels and Road Rage on a hiking trip, reveling in the beauty of nature. While there, they meet the bear Taylor once subdued and befriended. The bear makes it clear it wants to go with them, and each eventually agrees. Dave Taylor makes lasting friends of wildlife. Dave Taylor: A Real Man's Man. This wasn't so good.

Then....uggghhhh....King Kong Bundy vs.Yokozuna, Bundy goes over. Thank god it was so short. It was just bad and it dragged the whole night down.

Goldust/Taker/Mankind pretape.
Mankind: "I know all you World Wrestling Fanatics out there love to watch us on Monday Night Raw every week, but 2 weeks from now, you may not be able to do that any longer."
Taker: "WWF Raw will DIE... and be reborn anew."
Mankind: "So it's on another station?"
Goldust: "It's not TV, Mankind, it's [CENSORED], a fine place for a movie star like me. So everyone watching should call their cable provider..."
Taker: "Tell them YOU*points to camera* want to keep the WWF in your life..."
Mankind: "and HAVE A NICE DAY!" All three men laugh as the pretape fades to black.

It was time for the Main Event. Goldust and Undertaker vs Warrior and Kane. Standard run and catch wrestling throughout the match. Heels dominated early with Goldust and Undertaker able to go beat down the Warrior pretty well. Goldust even pulled off a painful looking Shattered Dreams, putting the Warrior on the ropes near the turnbuckle and kicking him straight in the...whelp. Warrior managed to make the tag and Kane, the guy in red for those of you who didn't see Summerslam, almost cleaned house. Goldust got desperate when it looked like Kane had Taker up for the Chokeslam, so Goldust whacks him square in the face with the urn.

Goldust keeps attacking Kane, screaming as he does it. "I WON'T STAND TO BE EMBARRASSED LIKE THAT, YOU DEMONIC DUNCE! YOU WILL KNOW YOUR PLACE!"

Kaneda101 posted:

USA cut out whatever Vince and the heels where saying RAW was headed again. Did anyone catch it this time around?

HulkmaniaicTheFirst posted:

Oh yeah brother, I know where it's headed. No where on regular tv. WCW done won the Monday Night Wars. There is a reason they censored it too, know what else is censored? Porn. It's all a joke. Trust me brother WWF is headed to the Playboy Channel or Skinamax. It's called gallows humor kid

NutritiousSnack fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Feb 12, 2014

# ¿ Feb 12, 2014 05:22

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

I was going to add that back in when I noticed I accidently left out, but I yours better and the idea that the Bret Hart mark just left after seeing Bret and Owen.

# ¿ Feb 12, 2014 05:42

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Q7kid posted:

Previous iterations of the game allowed you to pay a foreign guy relocation costs to get him to work out of his preferred area, but now, the only surefire way to get a foreign guy is to become an International-sized organization, which neither of us are.

Joe is obviously modding the game heavily and doing inserting real life logic into the game, he might overlook that factor.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2014 07:19

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

HartDynasty4Evar posted:

Hey, hey, hey. The RV was working so I decided to hit the road and catch follow the WWF road tour. Yep wife definitely did not leave or anything. Anyway, caught Superstars in US. Pretty good stuff even if Bret never shows up for these.

First up the Dark Matches

DARK MATCH: Taz, King Kong Bundy & British Bulldog vs. Rick Martel, that dude in bear outfit URSUS & Billy Gunn. Asses where still filling into the seats, so no one was losing it or anything over the match but pretty decent stuff. Bulldog was doing good out there. Bulldog pins Gunn after a running powerbomb that just looked great.

Goldust announces he's holding the Hullabaloo Bantamweight Open tonight. Who can win the well...want to keep this review tv viewer friendly don't I. Ha.

Superstars formally started with another surreal Shawn Micheals segment. Shawn Michaels finds himself in a small, dark bedroom. Lying in bed is Vincent van Gogh, as portrayed by Mankind. He is crippled by depression, and contemplating taking his own life. He speaks with Shawn at length, we see only brief snippets here and there as they talk throughout the night, Shawn always trying to convince the great artist to go on living. In the end, Shawn fails. Van Gogh departs, and as a gunshot is heard in the distance, Shawn Michaels weeps. The scene fades out. Weird as hell, but it was great. America ain't as dumb as it's made out to be.

Two of the Headshrinkers were out next, Samu and Brother Love backing them, for a match with Tracy Smothers and Michael Modest. I didn't know who either of them are, but the Headshrinkers sure knew who Smothers was by the end, because he really took Sione to the limit. If Phatu hadn't tripped him while he was running the ropes I think it would've gone Smothers' way. Instead, he went down, and one diving headbutt later, the Headshrinkers had the pin. Modest was really off his game and looked gassed as hell. Not so hot opening to be honest.

After the match, Brother Love got on the mic. "As the priests of old brought the word OF THE LAWRD to the Americas to cleanse the heathen savages, so have I brought these men under my tutelage, so I may teach them the ways of the civilized man. And with the power OF THE LAWRD on mah side, they will be unbeatable. A-men, brothers!" This was a lot better.

Goldust tournament then kicked off. The tournament started with "Wildman" Marc Mero taking on "Playboy" Jim Powers. Powers put up a good fight, but it wasn't enough to stop Mero. He's in the finals.

Jerry Lynn had a match with Yokozuna. Wasn't really a match though. Yoko could barely fit through the ropes, and Lynn was all over him from the opening bell, never letting him get a single punch in. Lynn pinned him quick. Going to need more than one shovel to bury this fat rear end Vince.

It cuts to black, and we see Camp Cornette holding a party at their house! The WWF belt is held in a glass case with the words "VADER" marked all over it. While Camp Cornette dance with random people, the DJ unmasks himself to be Dave Taylor! He secretly tries to pinch the entire case, but Vader and Bulldog catch him and hold him back. All three argue on what to do with him, until Cornette offers Taylor a match with "his client," tonight! Cute

The other opening match in Goldust tournament was Justin "Hawk" Bradshaw against Johnny Paradise. I've never heard of him, and he didn't last long. Bradshaw's going to see Mero in the finals. UGH, this really killed the mood in the arena.

Skunkrocker defended the Pan-American Title against "Jammin" Jamie Noble next. Skunk ended it quick with the Stink Bomb from the top rope.

There was a video of Dave Taylor and Rick Martel in a gym with that bear Taylor made friends with. They were trying to teach him how to wrestle. Not as cute as what WWF was going for I think.

Titantron flared up. We saw clips of Goldust attacking Kane from this week's Raw. This was okay, this angle might be going somewhere.

Marc Mero met Justin Bradshaw in the Hullabaloo Bantamweight Open finals. It was a great match, back and forth the whole way. Finally, Bradshaw missed a clothesline and took a big right hand to pay for it, before Mero went up for a Merosault and the pin. This gag at USA is wearing thin by this point.

Goldust presented Mero with a trophy for winning the tournament. There wasn't a little man or something on top, though. It looked like a piece of pizza. Like, a pizza trophy. Not kidding. Marc Mero won a pizza trophy. This something the WWF did on national tv and in front of a pretty big audience. They were both saying the initials of the tournament a lot. Mero mentioned that everyone should make sure to catch Raw on its new home next Monday. Then Kane came out from under the ring and attacked Goldust. Okay this was funny again. Goldust sold it.

Goldust came back out with The Undertaker, who was taking on Scott Taylor again. This one was a little closer than the last match these two had. It still didn't take Undertaker long to put him down, but he put up a good fight along the way. Taylor got out of the Chokeslam near the end and put him a pretty nasty looking armlock, but Taker just lifted him back up and put him in the Tombstone. This match was fun and man did Undertaker look good.

Then Tom Prichard comes out, once again repeating his demand for a challenge. but this time he calls out one dude in particular. Stone Cold responds, telling Prichard, he isn't going to get a match, he's going to get an rear end whooping. Prichard tells Stone Cold if he wants a fight he can have it now. Right then, HHH sneaks up behind him and hits him with the Pedigree. Stone Cold runs to the ring telling him "That's what you get you stupid son of a bitch, the rattlenake strikes when he wants to, from anywhere he wants to, any way he wants to. Starting tonight you should start counting every single hours you hold that IC belt, because it's only a matter of time until that title is going around my waist along with my half of the tag team title, and I will be one of the few double champions in WWF history, AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE 'CAUSE STONE COLD SAYS SO!" Pretty cool.

Backstage, Brian Pillman is shown watching Two Man Power Trip against the Smoking Gunns at SummerSlam on a television, a happy smile on his face. "Austin, Austin, Austin. You've never changed, now have you? Back in WCW, we were the best tag team! You now carry around another blonde, but that's fine. I got it. Always room for one more..." Pillman shuts the TV off and spins his wheel while it fades to black. Pillman knows away around a mic.

For the main event, Dave Taylor was waiting in the ring, and Owen Hart came out! Taylor was roaring mad. It was a long, back-and-forth match, with neither one getting much of an edge over the other. Eventually, Owen got fed up with all that "fair play" stuff and kicked Dave Taylor in the gentleman sausage... but the ref didn't see it! Owen applied the Sharpshooter, and Taylor tapped out in the center of the ring. This was fun and Owen looked good, no surprise he's the brother of the Hitman!

Overall, I give the Superstars a B-. Step up from their last RAW. Let's see if this continues.

NutritiousSnack fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Feb 17, 2014

# ¿ Feb 16, 2014 22:02

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

James and James would never gone down like that and remain popular as ever. They are a serious tag team and NOT a joke.

# ¿ Feb 17, 2014 02:48

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

I'm just proud of Foley, Bret, and Jericho. :unsmith:

, both did such a great job tonight. Unlike that fatass Yokozuna.

# ¿ Feb 18, 2014 05:19

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Q7kid posted:

They jumped coverage levels both domestically and in Canada as a result of the move. Frankly, had they not won the ratings battle, I would have been floored.

You still have bigger coverage then us though.

# ¿ Feb 19, 2014 06:38

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Q7kid posted:

Is Jericho not as over in Canada as he is in the States or something? Surprising that a workrate special between two Canadian darlings would flop so hard.

It did very well, the problem is that we need more Canadian workhourses and more exposure to Canada to help get out American wrestlers over.

# ¿ Feb 21, 2014 18:03

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Q7kid posted:

Well, I guess the ninja-edit explanation is marginally better than the "eh, good point, but welp, it's already announced" that preceded it.

I before E hasn't been doing our Mid Card stuff actually. Outside of Austin and the IC title, we have other plans for TMPT and they are going to busy for awhile, having them fight for the straps on Vengeance goes against that.

NutritiousSnack fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Feb 21, 2014

# ¿ Feb 21, 2014 19:36

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

IcePhoenix posted:

Come on, man.

Saying we have plans is loving spoilers or tipping our hand? Better not tell that we're doing things with Vader.

# ¿ Feb 21, 2014 19:48

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

sk posted:

Mankind saying gently caress

This ain't TV, this is HBO :getin:

# ¿ Feb 23, 2014 06:00

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Q7kid posted:

The inside scoop, since Prograps doesn't have complete information: this occurred before Nitro and was addressed by Hawk on Nitro. What Hawk said was a shoot; Animal is fired because of his behavior. If he is indeed WWF-bound as rumors indicate, I look forward to Titan pushing a violent psychopath and sending the message to its fanbase that it will put promotional muscle behind those who would physically threaten the consumers of their product.

How many times have Hogan and DDP gotten into fights again? Maybe if WCW didn't promote such a hostile backstage environment detrimental to their workers safety and wellbeing incidents like this wouldn't occur.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2014 08:23

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Q7kid posted:

This is a pretty strange comment to make, considering WCW is committed to disciplining those individuals involved in backstage misconduct through discretionary use of fines, suspensions, or firings in an effort to maintain the safety and morale of its workers. Certainly, the surest way to ensure "incidents like this" don't occur in the future is to fire those who commit such incidents, rather than WWF's approach, which appears to be hiring them and earmarking them for a big push.

It's good to know that DDP and Hogan's terminations are coming soon then, given both have been involved in multiple and reoccurring infractions given how harshly you punish Road Animal Warrior over his single (but significant) infraction.

Until such time though, I have no knowledge of either Road Warrior Animal or Misawa for that matter signing on with the WWF or McMahon's employment polices. But that's what happens when you listen to unfounded rumors and speculation. It's not like there is a drug or steroid problem in the WCW locker room for example. In any case I congratulate you and WCW on the continued success and use of James and James, who are completely unrelated regarding the Animal incident no doubt.

NutritiousSnack fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Feb 23, 2014

# ¿ Feb 23, 2014 09:05

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Evil Badman posted:

Not like you guys committed to the UK or Cananda as part of contract negotiations.

Oh.

That is unfortunate.

It is.

We planed to expand our markets throughout the world independently anyway, this is just part of the growing pains of expanding your brand.

NutritiousSnack fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Feb 26, 2014

# ¿ Feb 26, 2014 05:36

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

I Before E posted:

We are the WORLD Wrestling Federation, are we not?

Well for some reason Championship Wrestling put a World in front of it, so I thought the word World was now meaningless.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2014 05:48

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Hulk Hogan went on a rampage and killed a couple of people.

# ¿ Feb 27, 2014 22:36

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Sanguinia posted:

Better not tell Bubba Ray and D-Von that.

We are in negations with Mae Young to start off that trend but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

NutritiousSnack fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Mar 4, 2014

# ¿ Mar 4, 2014 03:38

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

I Before E posted:

She would have been dead for 16 years by 1996, so we might not be able to do that.

I messed that joke up man, and it was right in my sights.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2014 03:44

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Sanguinia posted:

Nice to see you guys with a more extensive writeup. I know we had a talk about how much is too much, but I at least like seeing Raw fully fleshed out. Good show too.

I went a little bit overboard on that opening promo and this had to be shuffled onto Superstars. Oops.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2014 04:53

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 17:03

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Q7kid posted:

The Undertaker in a single night.

It wasn't a clean win to start off with. Also Ultimate Warrior loss is leading to big things and changes for the character we here at WWF are extremely excited about.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2014 05:38

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